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Re: Cleaning House

Post by Tommygunner70 on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 18:36

Nachtsider wrote:Plus, we could add in Bianchi's first name (Fernando, as seen in a 'blink-and-you'll-miss-it' shot of his ID card in Episode Eight of Season One).

I missed that...

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Nachtsider wrote:any more shows of hands for Rachelle to get her own profile?

*sticks hands up in the air*

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 19:40

My Sir/Last name is that of the Spanish Royal Family Prior to 1863. Aka: a very dirty word/name for for Muslim Extremist Fundementalists who actually know their history...
I just so want to bash Bianchi's head in for having my name... He is not a Fernando!

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by KodokuRyuu on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 20:09

Nachtsider wrote:
KodokuRyuu wrote:Uh, they didn't alter her physically (no surgery), they just dressed her up in a way that looks older (though I have to say, Yu made her too tall for just giving her taller shoes).
Called it.
I didn't notice the 2nd page of posts. ;;

Nachtsider wrote:look at Leonardo Conti's profile.
Who is he? Is he really even major enough to deserve a section?

Nachtsider wrote:'Fleda' is still there, and any more shows of hands for Rachelle to get her own profile?
Give me a reference that says her name is officially spelled differently and I'll change it. Note: the anime shows her name as "Flead-Claes-Johansson". I also found that data you mentioned about her father in that same episode. See image below:
Spoiler:

LoC978 wrote:
Spoiler:

that's for the gen2s, so... if the originals were only supposed to live half that long... two and a half to three and a half years.
...But if Ange only lasted about three years, well... those were a busy three years.
Someone please let me see the raw for that page - I still don't trust the translation.

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 20:13

Leonardo was that Padania reporter chap who tried to get chummy with Patricia. You know, the one whom Angie shot.

Thing about Claes' name is that although it's spelled that way in the screencap, Raballo clearly says 'Freda' when he monologues. I strongly feel that 'Fleda' with the L is Engrish, and the screencap is a mispelling.

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Post by LoC978 on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 20:39

KodokuRyuu wrote:
LoC978 wrote:
Spoiler:
Someone please let me see the raw for that page - I still don't trust the translation.
here ya go:
Spoiler:

whoa, the numbers are western... just noticed...

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by KodokuRyuu on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 21:27

LoC978 wrote:
KodokuRyuu wrote:
LoC978 wrote:
Spoiler:
Someone please let me see the raw for that page - I still don't trust the translation.
here ya go:
Spoiler:

whoa, the numbers are western... just noticed...
Thanks! Noooo! stupid Jean, that can't be right. Yeah, Yu likes using western numbers. Actually, I think it's a rather common practice.

Nachtsider wrote:Leonardo was that Padania reporter chap who tried to get chummy with Patricia. You know, the one whom Angie shot.
Hmm, it's vaguely familiar. Like I said, he doesn't play a major role in the storyline, right? So I say we just delete him from the article. It's not like we have to have every character that's ever appeared listed.

Nachtsider wrote:Thing about Claes' name is that although it's spelled that way in the screencap, Raballo clearly says 'Freda' when he monologues. I strongly feel that 'Fleda' with the L is Engrish, and the screencap is a mispelling.
I figure the screencap is a misspelling too. Does anyone have the English version to check how they pronounce it there? That would be a surefire way to check the official spelling. Also, how is it spelled in the ADV release of the manga (assuming it's spelled out at all)?

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 21:31

Or just give Leo a one-sentence thing. And turn the spotlight on Rachelle.

I don't believe the manga ever gave us a look at Claes' dossier, although I could be wrong. And sadly, I only own a Mandarin-dubbed bootleg copy of the anime.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 21:41

As far as I remember, it dont. Just shows Rabello reading it...
Found it, Chp6/Pg10. Only shows him reading it and a picture of her at a younger age with her full name. Nothing more.

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 21:54

But you just said the full name was there. That's what we're looking for. How do they spell it?

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 22:08

"Fleda Claes Johansson 10ann(too blurry to see it, but its her age)"

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by Nachtsider on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 22:15

Engrish.

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 22:21

ElfenMagix wrote:"Fleda Claes Johansson 10ann(too blurry to see it, but its her age)"

I believe it should be "10 anni" which is "10 years old" in Italian.
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Re: Cleaning House

Post by LoC978 on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 23:02

yeah... watching episode 5 again off my DVDs... at the title screen it shows the photo album from Claes' past...
...and it says 10 anniversario di Flead Claes Johansson

which I assume means the picture was taken on her 10th birthday.

...then it cuts and zooms in on her name, and it rearranges the letters to "Fleda"... which is a Teutonic (old Germanic) name meaning 'swift'... and that would certainly fit with the rest of her name, being all Germanic and/or Scandinavian.
However... 'Freda' is an Italian last name... or an English first name.
this is another case of 'take your pick'. could be Engrish misspelling, could be just as it was intended.

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by Nachtsider on Mon 29 Sep 2008 - 23:18

LoC978 wrote:...then it cuts and zooms in on her name, and it rearranges the letters to "Fleda"... which is a Teutonic (old Germanic) name meaning 'swift'... and that would certainly fit with the rest of her name, being all Germanic and/or Scandinavian.
Ah, shit. So much for Engrish... bang head

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by boomer_gonz on Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 5:30

Zoo speekoo ze Engrish tooz?

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by Tommygunner70 on Tue 30 Sep 2008 - 6:31

boomer_gonz wrote:Zoo speekoo ze Engrish tooz?
Oh Yaa, Ich kan Engrish Speekon Lol
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Re: Cleaning House

Post by Nachtsider on Wed 1 Oct 2008 - 16:13

Updated to-do list:

Give Rachelle her own profile.

Clean up/snip Leonardo Conti's.

Also, why the hell is that 'additional sources' logo at the top of the page?

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by Danjo3 on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 4:55

I have two suggestions.

1. Add a listing for Giorgio.

2. Trim Rosanna’s listing way the hell down. I mean come on. There’s more on her then all of the other regulars combined. Two or three quick sentences saying who she is would more then suffice.

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 9:35

Danjo3 wrote:I have two suggestions.

1. Add a listing for Giorgio.

2. Trim Rosanna’s listing way the hell down. I mean come on. There’s more on her then all of the other regulars combined. Two or three quick sentences saying who she is would more then suffice.

I think we can kill the entire second paragraph while keeping the first.
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Re: Cleaning House

Post by Danjo3 on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 11:43

Kiskaloo wrote:I think we can kill the entire second paragraph while keeping the first.
That would probably work. The second paragraph is basically a story summary.

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by KodokuRyuu on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 18:10

Kiskaloo wrote:
Danjo3 wrote:Trim Rosanna’s listing way the hell down. I mean come on. There’s more on her then all of the other regulars combined. Two or three quick sentences saying who she is would more then suffice.

I think we can kill the entire second paragraph while keeping the first.
Done.

Nachtsider wrote:Give Rachelle her own profile.
Been wanting to do this for a long time. Someone write something up please - I don't have the time.

Nachtsider wrote:Also, why the hell is that 'additional sources' logo at the top of the page?
That's what we call a cleanup tag - a tag to mark what kind of issues need to be cleaned up in an article or section. This one says the article needs more third-party sources - referencing something other than the manga/anime, like a book or website or something.
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Post by Nachtsider on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 18:24

I don't really have the time to write up a profile, either. If anyone wants to volunteer, they're free to post their composition in this thread for our Wiki guys to enter.

I'm struggling hard to think what third-party sources could possibly exist for GSG. Apart from the official websites for the anime, there aren't any repositories of information for the series other than the anime and manga that I can think of. Unless you count our forum, which probably won't fly there...

Something else we ought to add to the article is that Elsa was the newest addition to the Agency at the time of her first appearance. Source is gunslingergirl.tv (screencapped below):

http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif

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Post by KodokuRyuu on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 18:35

I can deal with some of the sourcing - we have some regular sites we go to for that (like ANN). Did the Elsa thing.
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Post by Nachtsider on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 18:44

That's great, Ryuu.

We've got another error in there - Henrietta was not the newest addition to the Agency at the beginning of the series. Episode Five, Season One of the anime shows that Claes came after Etta did. Therefore, chronologically speaking, Episode One, Season One occurs subsequent to Episode Five.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 18:44

Nachtsider wrote:Updated to-do list: Give Rachelle her own profile.
KodokuRyuu wrote:Been wanting to do this for a long time. Someone write something up please - I don't have the time.
Nachtsider wrote:I don't really have the time to write up a profile, either. If anyone wants to volunteer, they're free to post their composition in this thread for our Wiki guys to enter.

I'll handle it. I was just reading all those sections, anyway. Smile
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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 19:14

Rachelle Bellot [Kana], [Romaji])
Voiced by: Yuka Komatsu (Japanese)
A member of the Paris Police Department, now working as a coroner at Europol headquarters in the Hague. She performed the autopsies on the victims of a child-torture ring, but was unable to glean any clues from their bodies. Her co-worker Paulin introduces her to Hillshire, who has unsuccessfully been trying to get named to the group investigating the child-torture ring. Over dinner, Rachelle and Hillshire decide to investigate an Amsterdam warehouse said to be used to film the child-torture based on information provided by Mario Bossi. She is critically wounded in a shoot-out in the warehouse and gives her life saving the girl who would become Triela.


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Post by Nachtsider on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 19:26

Nice work. Just include how that name's spelled in English (Rachelle Belleut or Bellot, according to our French members like Totoum), and it'll be ripe for inclusion.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 21:09

So Rachel Vero is romaji? Because that is how it is spelled it the scanlation of Chapter 22.
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Post by Nachtsider on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 21:18

One of the scan crew admitted that they goofed on that after Totoum pointed it out.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 21:25

Nachtsider wrote:I'm struggling hard to think what third-party sources could possibly exist for GSG. Apart from the official websites for the anime, there aren't any repositories of information for the series other than the anime and manga that I can think of. Unless you count our forum, which probably won't fly there...

Only characters that I would say are missing are Ernesto and Pia, but only those who had played the game can give input: Triela, Sin and a couple of others.

My arguement is that they are canon GsG even though they are part of the anime or manga, because they are part of the GsG Genre. The game itself is a story within that genre.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 2 Oct 2008 - 21:34

Nachtsider wrote:One of the scan crew admitted that they goofed on that after Totoum pointed it out.

Okay. Changed. Bellot sounds proper for a French last name.
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Post by KodokuRyuu on Fri 3 Oct 2008 - 2:15

Added after editting into past tense. Put it under Special Ops for now. Used ADV's spelling for her last name.
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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 3 Oct 2008 - 2:25

Hillshire's bio is written as if no bio for Rachelle exists. You might want to edit that to reflect the fact that she now has one.

Leonardo Conti's article is still cringe-worthy, Amadeo and Georgio are AWOL, and I think we should get a pic for every character featured in the article.

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Post by Danjo3 on Fri 3 Oct 2008 - 11:04

Nachtsider wrote:Amadeo and Georgio are AWOL...
Agreed. I know there’s not a whole lot to say about them, but they appear in the story on a regular basis, so they deserve a mention.

Edit: And don’t forget to mention that Amadeo is known as the ‘Missionary of Love'.


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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 3 Oct 2008 - 11:08

Nachtsider wrote:Hillshire's bio is written as if no bio for Rachelle exists. You might want to edit that to reflect the fact that she now has one.

Hilshire (ヒルシャー, Hirushā?)
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Voiced by: Masaya Matsukaze in Gunslinger Girl: Il Teatrino
Also spelled Hillshire, Hilscher or Hirscher in some translations; real name is Victor Hartmann. He is an agent of Section 2 and Triela’s handler, whom he treats with a generally hands-off approach. A former Europol detective from Germany tasked to inter-departmental liaison at Interpol HQ, Hilshire wanted to join the Child Abuse Regulations Section to help solve a child-torture group operating in Holland. However, his boss denied the requests on the grounds that Hilshire was “too soft” to join the team.
Hilshire was shown a video of the torture sessions and it affected him deeply. He was approached by Rachelle Bellot and over dinner the two decided to investigate a warehouse where the torture sessions were rumored to take place. During that investigation, Rachelle was mortally wounded and Triela was discovered and rescued. After the ordeal, Hilshire received information concerning the child smuggling ring from Mario Bossi, a Camorra leader who experienced an attack of conscience. In exchange for the information, Hilshire allowed Mario to escape before Europol could arrest him. When Europol learned about Hilshire's part in Mario's escape, Hilshire was dismissed. He was approached by Jean Croce and effectively coerced into joining Section 2 in order to protect Triela, who had undergone the cybernetic augmentation process.



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Post by KodokuRyuu on Sat 4 Oct 2008 - 0:34

Hillshire section changed.

Nachtsider wrote:I think we should get a pic for every character featured in the article.
Nooo!!! (See Wikipedia's fair use policy, esp. 3 and 8.) We don't need an image for every character. We don't really need to show images of anyone that's not a main character. I would prefer having group shots instead of the way it's currently done.
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Post by Nachtsider on Sat 4 Oct 2008 - 0:38

Goddamn Wikipedia. I suppose a group shot will do.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Wed 8 Oct 2008 - 19:28

Give me a few images and I'll photoshop something together for you guys.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 27 Oct 2008 - 12:41

I would like to propose the following to replace the Wiki entry for Leonardo Conti:

Leonardo Conti

Is the self-proclaimed “handsome and excellent journalist” who works with Marco’s ex-girlfriend Patricia at Ultima magazine. He learns from Patricia that Marco works for the Social Welfare Agency and that she is writing an article on the Agency. Leonardo tells Patricia of the rumors that the SWA uses child assassins and offers to co-investigate the Agency with her. They speak to an incarcerated prisoner who claims that the SWA is the modern version of “Operation Gladio” and is operating to destabilize the rightists and others backing Northern secession. Leonardo continues his digging into the SWA.
Leonardo is set-up by the SWA through an intermediary (Colonel Farn). When he shows, Marco tries to place him under arrest, but Priscilla appears and is taken hostage by Leonardo. Angelica appears and blinds Leonardo with a flashlight on her pistol. When he lets go of Priscilla to shield his eyes, Angelica shoots him.


Note - It is unclear whether Angelica kills him or wounds him and takes him into custody, as a scene in the manga shows her pinning him down with one of his arms behind him. Do we want to add this, just assume she killed him, or just leave it as is above?
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Re: Cleaning House

Post by Nachtsider on Mon 27 Oct 2008 - 12:54

The canon leaves it ambiguous, so we do the same.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 27 Oct 2008 - 15:44

Oh, and as for Claes, I am confident her name is supposed to be:

"Fleda Claes Johansson"

I watched Episode 5 today for background, and I translated the Italian in her dossier:

The 10th birthday of Fleda Claes Johansson.
The photo of her on the day of her 10th birthday.
She just received a book as a gift.
(In a later close-up we see it was "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer.)
Since her father was a university professor, his house was covered in books.
So she showed an interest in books at home right from childhood.
One parent cultivated the interest of their daughter choosing books as an adequate gift.
This is a photo of her in the period.


While the title under her picture says Flead-Claes-Johansson, why would they put hypens between her name? It's almost like it's a computer file name with the first name mispelled.

Also, the ADV sub has Raballo saying "Fleda Claes Johansson" and those are the words Ken'yū Horiuchi states as he reviews her bio back in his dorm. Unfortunately, the dub substitutes a different sentence and only her first name is pronounced. However, again, we see the name "Fleda-" (with the dash) in the dossier to the right of the picture of Claes on the swing.


And I have to say, Nachtsider, she looks fine to me in all three pictures of her in her dossier. I fully agree she wasn't healthy when she was converted, but whatever afflicted her happened after those pictures were taken (I imagine the other two show her as 10-11).
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Re: Cleaning House

Post by TTIO on Mon 27 Oct 2008 - 17:20

No idea why they changed it on wiki. It seems that sometimes they spell/pronounce it slightly differently (eg. Hilshire -> Hilscher) but I can't see that happening here. A typo, maybe?

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 27 Oct 2008 - 18:07

Kiskaloo wrote:Oh, and as for Claes, I am confident her name is supposed to be:
The 10th birthday of Fleda Claes Johansson.
The photo of her on the day of her 10th birthday.
She just received a book as a gift.
(In a later close-up we see it was "The Adventures of Tom Sawyer.)
Since her father was a university professor, his house was covered in books.
So she showed an interest in books at home right from childhood.
One parent cultivated the interest of their daughter choosing books as an adequate gift.
This is a photo of her in the period.

No offense meant, man, but this was translated years ago...

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 27 Oct 2008 - 18:34

Fair enough. The forum search doesn't appear to be indexed, so I notice that searches don't turn up anything even when the content does exist so attempts to search on the name returned null.

I also didn't see anything in Claes' thread in the Dormitory group and there was somewhat recent discussion on what her name was in this thread.

I also translated Marco's dossier from Episode 08. If nothing else, I can use the practice. Smile
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Re: Cleaning House

Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 27 Oct 2008 - 22:18

I say Angie killed Conti.
Reasons:
Angie aimed for his head/face when she fired.
Angie more than often goes for the kill.

In the end she was wrapping him for the disposal team to haul away.

I know one can survive a bullet to the head, but in this case, if he was not dead then, he will be later on, as Medical teams will be sure to delay in getting him any help.

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 2 Nov 2008 - 21:07

KodokuRyuu wrote:I would prefer having group shots instead of the way it's currently done.

How's this?

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Re: Cleaning House

Post by Tommygunner70 on Sun 2 Nov 2008 - 21:20

Awesome!

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Post by emperor on Mon 3 Nov 2008 - 4:18

Good job,Kiskaloo!

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Post by KodokuRyuu on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 2:35

Kiskaloo wrote:I would like to propose the following to replace the Wiki entry for Leonardo Conti:

Leonardo Conti

Is the self-proclaimed “handsome and excellent journalist” who works with Marco’s ex-girlfriend Patricia at Ultima magazine. He learns from Patricia that Marco works for the Social Welfare Agency and that she is writing an article on the Agency. Leonardo tells Patricia of the rumors that the SWA uses child assassins and offers to co-investigate the Agency with her. They speak to an incarcerated prisoner who claims that the SWA is the modern version of “Operation Gladio” and is operating to destabilize the rightists and others backing Northern secession. Leonardo continues his digging into the SWA.
Leonardo is set-up by the SWA through an intermediary (Colonel Farn). When he shows, Marco tries to place him under arrest, but Priscilla appears and is taken hostage by Leonardo. Angelica appears and blinds Leonardo with a flashlight on her pistol. When he lets go of Priscilla to shield his eyes, Angelica shoots him.


Note - It is unclear whether Angelica kills him or wounds him and takes him into custody, as a scene in the manga shows her pinning him down with one of his arms behind him. Do we want to add this, just assume she killed him, or just leave it as is above?
Done. Changed to past tense to match rest of the article.

Kiskaloo wrote:
KodokuRyuu wrote:I would prefer having group shots instead of the way it's currently done.

How's this?

What's the source on that?
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Post by Danjo3 on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 7:15

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KodokuRyuu wrote:I would prefer having group shots instead of the way it's currently done.

How's this?


But won’t people who are new to GSG have a hard time telling which girl is which?

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 10:29

KodokuRyuu wrote:What's the source on that?


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Danjo3 wrote:But won’t people who are new to GSG have a hard time telling which girl is which?

We could split it down the middle.

On the left: "from left to right, front to back: Triela, Angelica, Henrietta, Claes, Rico, Giuseppe, Jean, Marco and Hillshire"

On the right: "from left to right, front to back: "Franca, Pinocchio, Franco and Cristiano"
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Post by Danjo3 on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 12:16

Yeah, I guess that would work, though I must say, I like the season 1 pictures a lot better then the alien like season 2 pics.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 12:51

Danjo3 wrote:Yeah, I guess that would work, though I must say, I like the season 1 pictures a lot better then the alien like season 2 pics.

No argument there.

It would be nice if we could keep the current girls pics, and then use the other image in two groups for the SWA and Padania cast (by editing out the girls).
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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 16:24

I found some .iso of Season 1 promotional cds that Sintendo, Emperor or somebody else put up on the forums a long time ago. I could never run them because they are Windows Format CDs... Anyways, according to one of them, the girls' height is very different from what it is on Season 2. In the least, Treila is still the tallest, and Claes & Rico are tied for second.

I'll see about testing the others to see if its appropriate material and them see if Tommy would want to host them on his server. I'll include a Mac & Windows Burning instructions so one can build a working CD from it. Again, these are only Windows Format and will only work on Windows.

Secondly- they are in Japanese... ALL OF IT! *UGH!*
(in the least- it does say- or I think it says where the compound is located...)

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 16:32

So these include height charts, as well?

I have Windows as a VM on my Mac, so no worries loading them for me.
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Post by KodokuRyuu on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 16:40

ElfenMagix wrote:Secondly- they are in Japanese... ALL OF IT! *UGH!*
Yeah, someday I actually will get around to translating that thing, but don't count on it happening this year. I'll also look into patching it so it will appear in English.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 17:23

Kiskaloo wrote:So these include height charts, as well?

I have Windows as a VM on my Mac, so no worries loading them for me.

Its not exactly a height chart, but with the girls standing together side by side, it shows who's taller than who compared to the others.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 17:31

ElfenMagix wrote:It's not exactly a height chart, but with the girls standing together side by side, it shows who's taller than who compared to the others.

Like this?

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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 18:00

Close, but Triela does not have her gun. There is another one of them standing in their coats... even Claes had on a winter coat... like when does she ever go anywhere? Oh wait... the meteor shower... yeah...

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