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Post by ElfenMagix on Sat 22 Nov 2008 - 20:35

The women of the German Police use them. Why not the GsG Girls who has some boobage?






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Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Sun 23 Nov 2008 - 0:48

wow standard issue in all its glory Laughing

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Post by Ggultra2764 on Sun 23 Nov 2008 - 1:10

I'm speechless. Triela probably needs some too. Laughing

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Post by Danjo3 on Sun 23 Nov 2008 - 2:45

I donít know about Triela, but definitely Petra, Priscilla and Ferro.

Now if you go by the season 2 anime, both Triela and Claes could use one.

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Post by boomer_gonz on Sun 23 Nov 2008 - 5:43

@Ggultra2764 wrote:I'm speechless. Triela probably needs some too. Laughing

I'm not speechless! In the words of my ancestors ancestors, "Oh come the fuck on!"

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Post by Awinnell on Sun 23 Nov 2008 - 7:22

is it bulletproof ?

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Post by Ggultra2764 on Sun 23 Nov 2008 - 12:42

@Awinnell wrote:is it bulletproof ?

I think I heard somewhere of a company that made women's undergarments that could implement tools of self-defense. Would be perfect for the cyborgs who have developed enough. Razz

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 23 Nov 2008 - 13:21

Honestly, it does make some sense. I found a nice ballistic vest shaped in the form of an executive undervest (like you wear between your dress shirt and your suit jacket) which I imagine all of the handlers wear.
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Post by boomer_gonz on Sun 23 Nov 2008 - 13:48

Now that makes sense.

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Post by Guest on Mon 24 Nov 2008 - 10:20

Petra might need that...


...but what Petra really need even if she denies it is birth control pills or condoms of some sort to fend off against Sandro...not that she wants to do that anyway Laughing

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 24 Nov 2008 - 22:15

If Petrashuka was to fend herself off 'Sandro, it should be a can of mace.

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Mon 24 Nov 2008 - 23:30

@ElfenMagix wrote:If Petrashuka was to fend herself off 'Sandro, it should be a can of mace.

Mace, it stings the eyes!

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Post by Guest on Tue 25 Nov 2008 - 10:44

If Petrashuka was to fend herself off 'Sandro, it should be a can of mace.

That is, if she wants to fend Sandro off. Otherwise she'll use...stockings...as her primary weapon to 'fend off' Sandro or some other measures until what's needed arrive to prevent...you know...Laughing

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Post by Danjo3 on Tue 25 Nov 2008 - 14:03

@ElfenMagix wrote:If Petrashuka was to fend herself off 'Sandro, it should be a can of mace.
Or a chastity belt. Laughing

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Post by Awinnell on Tue 25 Nov 2008 - 14:55

the only trouble with chastity belts is that they have locks,and Sandro can pick locks ! Guh?


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Post by Danjo3 on Tue 25 Nov 2008 - 19:57

@Awinnell wrote:the only trouble with chastity belts is that they have locks,and Sandro can pick locks ! Guh?
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Re: Something for Petra and the older girls...

Post by Guest on Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 3:53

...what is that thing?

Is that for the arm of some sort?

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Post by LoC978 on Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 4:17

Panzer IV wrote:...what is that thing?

Is that for the arm of some sort?
LOL!
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Post by Nachtsider on Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 4:19

Oh, Panzer. You never fail to amuse me. Laughing

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Post by Guest on Wed 26 Nov 2008 - 5:16

Oh, right...

...now I get it. *_*

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Post by Guest on Sat 6 Dec 2008 - 21:32

I thought they don't have the organ anymore? Or is it just optional? Triela still does have her days now that I thought about it....

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 6 Dec 2008 - 21:59

djmaca wrote:I thought they don't have the organ anymore? Or is it just optional? Triela still does have her days now that I thought about it....

We know Henrietta had her uterus removed.

It's a bit unclear if the girls continue their sexual maturity once they have been augmented. Since they don't appear to grow or age, it is possible that the later stages of puberty are arrested, as well.

Since Triela was not converted until around 14, she could be the farthest along in her sexual maturity.


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Post by ElfenMagix on Sat 6 Dec 2008 - 22:20

Age does not mean sexual maturity. Girls around the world and even within their social, cultural and ecomonic groups, mature at different rates from one another. Girls are young as 5 and as late as 21 can get their first periods. Everyone else is in between.

Further development depends on this first step. Thus I have seen 12 and 13 yr olds who can put an adult woman to shame, and 20-something adult females who need to be carded all the time because they look like they belong in Jr. High School.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 6 Dec 2008 - 22:24

I understand that, but puberty is generally believed to begin around 9 for your average girl in a Western society (which Italy is). So chances are all of the girls have begun puberty, at least as it applies to the hormones themselves starting to be released, even if the physical changes have not yet become visible or are just starting.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Sat 6 Dec 2008 - 22:46

You and I know that, Kisk. But it comments like "Since Triela was not converted until around 14, she'd be the farthest along in her sexual maturity." is not always true. And this is a belief that must end.

In taking my rl god daughter Rachel who is the player to my OC Cyborg Rachel- she had her first cycle at 9 years and 11 months, and at 13 was already wearing a C-cup bra. To those who did not know her, who saw her at the time, would think that she was a short 16 - 18 yrd old. But having a stacked body does not mean a thing if one's mental maturity is up to par. This was something that as her god father I instilled in her, and she still lives by as a 30-something year adult, instilling it on her girls.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 6 Dec 2008 - 22:50

@ElfenMagix wrote:You and I know that, Kisk. But it comments like "Since Triela was not converted until around 14, she'd be the farthest along in her sexual maturity." is not always true. And this is a belief that must end.

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Sun 7 Dec 2008 - 4:11

I remember this one fanfic about the girls living civilian lives, but I cant remember who write it, or how it was called.

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Post by Danjo3 on Sun 7 Dec 2008 - 4:27

djmaca wrote:I thought they don't have the organ anymore? Or is it just optional?
I wonder if thatís on the questionnaire the new handlers fill out. Laughing

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sun 7 Dec 2008 - 22:11

Cyborg Construction Application Form

Handler: Jose Croche.

Cyborg items:

[ ] Breast
Reason why you dont want it: Brests on a little sister? Why?

[ ] Uterus
Reason why you dont want it: Whats that? she dont need it... take it out...

[X] Etc. (everything else...)

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Sun 7 Dec 2008 - 23:07

@ElfenMagix wrote:Cyborg Construction Application Form

Handler: Jose Croche.

Cyborg items:

[ ] Breast
Reason why you dont want it: Brests on a little sister? Why?

[ ] Uterus
Reason why you dont want it: Whats that? she dont need it... take it out...

[X] Etc. (everything else...)

Now that's harsh, but surprisingly in character.

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Post by Guest on Sun 7 Dec 2008 - 23:25

@ElfenMagix wrote:Cyborg Construction Application Form

Handler: Jose Croche.

Cyborg items:

[ ] Breast
Reason why you dont want it: Brests on a little sister? Why?

[ ] Uterus
Reason why you dont want it: Whats that? she dont need it... take it out...

[X] Etc. (everything else...)

Exactly! But I don't think those reasons justify... Heh...
How does one goes for Triela, I don't know....

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 7 Dec 2008 - 23:47

My theory is that the murderer of Henrietta's family took the organ with him.

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Post by Guest on Mon 8 Dec 2008 - 0:20

Nachtsider that's gross way to the fifth p@w3rz

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 8 Dec 2008 - 0:32

I would agree with Nacht, as some serial & psycho killers tend to take trophies home with them.

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Mon 8 Dec 2008 - 0:36

@ElfenMagix wrote:I would agree with Nacht, as some serial & psycho killers tend to take trophies home with them.

Tell me about it...

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Post by Danjo3 on Mon 8 Dec 2008 - 5:06

Henrietta said her uterus was taken during conditioning. I think it was due to injuries suffered during the assault on her. Probably knife wounds meant to finish her off.

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Post by Guest on Mon 8 Dec 2008 - 12:22

How does one goes for Triela, I don't know....

Triela was turned despite Hillshire's protest, right? Basically Hillshire's questionnaire will be:

[X] Be Triela's Handler

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[ ] execution (Jailed forever)

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Post by LoC978 on Mon 8 Dec 2008 - 14:24

@Nachtsider wrote:My theory is that the murderer of Henrietta's family took the organ with him.
@Danjo3 wrote:Henrietta said her uterus was taken during conditioning. I think it was due to injuries suffered during the assault on her. Probably knife wounds meant to finish her off.
-from that, all we know is what she was told. Both theories are sound, though Danjo's, in my opinion, seems more in line with the canon story.

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Post by Danjo3 on Mon 8 Dec 2008 - 15:52

I find it difficult to believe that anyone, especially a child, could survive after having their uterus cut out of them. The trauma and blood loss would be catastrophic. Weíre talking Jack the Ripper stuff here. Thereís just no way.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 8 Dec 2008 - 15:56

My personal belief is she was repeatedly sexually violated during the night and the trauma was such that during augmentation the surgical team decided her uterus should be removed.

After all, she was missing one arm, one leg and perhaps/probably one eye. That's enough trophies from one victim, I should hope...
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Post by Guest on Mon 8 Dec 2008 - 19:24

Wait! One arm, leg and eye? Where did that info came from?

@Kiskaloo wrote:My
personal belief is she was repeatedly sexually violated during the
night and the trauma was such that during augmentation the surgical
team decided her uterus should be removed.

That's what I believe too. So they remove anything that lets the girls remember the past eh?


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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 8 Dec 2008 - 21:52

djmaca wrote:Wait! One arm, leg and eye? Where did that info came from?

In the ADV manga, it is Volume 1, Page 25 middle right frame.

Her left leg is amputated at the knee and her right arm is amputated at the elbow. Her left eye is also covered with a cotton gauze patch. She also appears to have had arthroscopic surgery on her right knee and her left hand is bandaged from the wrist down.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 8 Dec 2008 - 22:23

@Kiskaloo wrote:My personal belief is she was repeatedly sexually violated during the night and the trauma was such that during augmentation the surgical team decided her uterus should be removed.

After all, she was missing one arm, one leg and perhaps/probably one eye. That's enough trophies from one victim, I should hope...

@Danjo3 wrote:Henrietta said her uterus was taken during conditioning. I think it was due to injuries suffered during the assault on her. Probably knife wounds meant to finish her off.

A uterus being removed by the medical staff just because she was a rape victim is in and of itself inhumane.
I can see though if Henrietta was stabbed and they tried to disembowel her, where such an injury would serioulsy injure her uterus and introduce various infectious agents to it to be a reason why it was removed, and this could have been done by the emergency room staff as an emergency hystertomy and not by the SWA medical team itself. To keep her mind at ease, she was conditioned and programmed to think that her uterus was removed as part of her cyborg building process.

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Post by Ghostfriendly on Tue 17 Feb 2009 - 17:52

Internal injuries caused by rape would give continuing pain and medical complications. They had the chance to remove it, so they did.
Anyone remember Man Plus? The cyborg design team decide their boy's male organ is a useless and unecessary vulnerability, and react with suprise when it's removal traumatises him more than anything he went through before.
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Re: Something for Petra and the older girls...

Post by Secchan on Sun 1 Mar 2009 - 1:21

I'd need a real' big one, were I a cyborg.
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Re: Something for Petra and the older girls...

Post by MadHatChemist on Sun 1 Mar 2009 - 1:38

what Petra really need even if she denies it is birth control pills or condoms

Wouldn't they just cut their tubes to prevent something like that, or otherwise stopped ovulation to avoid any possibility of pregnancy, partiularly for the second generation? If for no other reason then to keep the hormones under control, they might end up doing that.

Of course it raises the question: if they didn't inhibit it and one of the girls became pregnant, what would the agency do? From a purely utilitarian standpoint they could either abort (easy enough to due since the girls go into surgery for upgrades), or they could let the pregnancy go forward and observe how it affects the conditioning.

Internal injuries caused by rape would give
continuing pain and medical complications. They had the chance to
remove it, so they did.

I had always assumed that it was because her injuries were so severe, since there were girls with uterus intact. The injury to the uterus may not have been caused by a knifing, as clearly her attackers were sicko and could have done some very, very nightmarish things to her.
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Re: Something for Petra and the older girls...

Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 1 Mar 2009 - 11:44

@Secchan wrote:I'd need a real' big one, were I a cyborg.

No, sir. Not going to go there. NO Smile


@MadHatChemist wrote:
what Petra really need even if she denies it is birth control pills or condoms

Wouldn't they just cut their tubes to prevent something like that, or otherwise stopped ovulation to avoid any possibility of pregnancy, particularly for the second generation? If for no other reason then to keep the hormones under control, they might end up doing that.

Of course it raises the question: if they didn't inhibit it and one of the girls became pregnant, what would the agency do? From a purely utilitarian standpoint they could either abort (easy enough to due since the girls go into surgery for upgrades), or they could let the pregnancy go forward and observe how it affects the conditioning.

That is a good question. My OC, Kara, was sexually active prior to her conversion and they left everything there so I expect she could become pregnant if it was that time of the month and neither used contraceptives.

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Re: Something for Petra and the older girls...

Post by Secchan on Sun 1 Mar 2009 - 14:48

Hehe, I was just joking around. A large medium would do Razz

As for them being allowed to have a baby...I'd doubt it would be allowed. And wouldn't everyone else be "WTF HOW'D YOU GET KNOCKED UP?".
It makes me wonder whether handlers would get away with having sex with cyborgs, i.e if they got caught Wink
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Re: Something for Petra and the older girls...

Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 1 Mar 2009 - 16:21

@Secchan wrote:It makes me wonder whether handlers would get away with having sex with cyborgs, i.e if they got caught. Wink

Honestly, if it was thought it would strengthen the bond the cyborg felt for the handler (or vice-versa), and therefore would make them more effective, such relationships might very well be encouraged... Embarassed

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Re: Something for Petra and the older girls...

Post by boomer_gonz on Sun 1 Mar 2009 - 18:16

@MadHatChemist wrote:
Of course it raises the question: if they didn't inhibit it and one of the girls became pregnant, what would the agency do? From a purely utilitarian standpoint they could either abort (easy enough to due since the girls go into surgery for upgrades), or they could let the pregnancy go forward and observe how it affects the conditioning.

That sounds like something Bianchi would say. That guy has a serious case of "Let's see what happens" syndrome.

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It makes me wonder whether handlers would get away with having sex with cyborgs, i.e if they got caught Wink

Actually I'm working on something like that myself, and in that case someone does find out and they don't do a damn thing. Muh-m-muhahahaha!

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