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Post by Robert Frazer on Thu 2 Apr 2009 - 22:49

In the discussion about whether the Gunslinger Girl videogame trilogy could be considered canon or not, one of the things that I was left wondering about is what exactly happens in the games. While I know that it introduces a new fratello - Ernest/Pia - and that Ernest revolts against the Agency and drags his loyal cyborg into the rebellion, there's really little else on the web - hell, entering "pia gunslinger girl" on a Google image search brings up the Welcome to Pia Carrot H-games before there's a hint of a GSG videogame screenshot! Embarassed

Is there a synopsis of the games' plot available, the personalities of Ernest and Pia and any other significant characters in the games, or is it simply nothing more than "fratello rebels, recapture them, kill any Padanians in the way?"

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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 2 Apr 2009 - 23:05

A game is a game. Period. It never had a USA version of it, but there is a Japanese version where it was big and 3 episodes evolved from it. I'll bet dollars to pennies that if there was a USA Version of the Game, it would be more accepted as canon, and not speculated as such.

If it was not part of the canon of the series, then why develop it to be so well and intertwined?...

On YouTube, there are many player's recording their games, and posting them online.

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Post by LoC978 on Thu 2 Apr 2009 - 23:10

@ElfenMagix wrote:If it was not part of the canon of the series, then why develop it to be so well and intertwined?
because the fans might just burn down the homes of the writers, otherwise... perhaps kill em with fireaxes at train stations...

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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 2 Apr 2009 - 23:11

Good

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 1:59

I've heard that Ernest's motive was not an altruistic one, i.e. not motivated by any love for his cyborg or a moral objection to the Agency's activities. What I've picked up is that the guy was a Padania sleeper agent, and took Pia with him so that his cronies could open her to see what made her tick. Of course, he did not tell Pia this, and she followed him out of loyalty.

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Post by boomer_gonz on Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 10:06

Oh, now that's just evil.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 11:11

@boomer_gonz wrote:Oh, now that's just evil.

But it makes sense. Like any complex machine, the cyborgs cannot function outside their support environment. If Ernesto took Pia away, all he was going to do was ensure she died sooner rather then later due to lack of conditioning medication and maintenance only available at the SWA's medical facilities.

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Post by Triela on Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 13:51

Thanks for posting my vid Kisk!! ^_^ If you guys want to see cut-scenes and whatnot my vids are the way to go. They're not crystal clear because I recored it with my camera, but you see the playthrough and some of the things Pia does to try and stop Henrietta. I haven't fished uploading them though.;_; Although I don't know the entire plot to games are amazing and enjoyable nonetheless.

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Post by maverick375 on Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 15:26

Where does Henrietta keep all those spare magazines when she doesn't have her case with her??!!?
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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 15:58

@maverick375 wrote:Where does Henrietta keep all those spare magazines when she doesn't have her case with her??!!?

Portable hole.

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Post by Robert Frazer on Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 16:14

Where does Henrietta keep all those spare magazines when she doesn\'t have her case with her??!!?

Hammerspace, of course.

Hammerspace is the pocket dimension which accompanies all women. Strange gravitational effects exerted on the cosmic skein by the idiosyncracies of the female form distort space-time so as to generate a subatomic ouroborous loop about the woman's own person*. While it's something beyond conventional experience, nonetheless women innately understand how to access and manipulate them - thousands of generations of use have imprinted an instinctual evolutionary knowledge in their genetic memory.

Hammerspace is so named because it tends to be where anime girls conjure their comically large mallets from, but that's only a populist name (academics prefer "gynotrypa") of a scientifically-attestable phenomenom that's frequently empirally-observed in our own world. Consider - do you know what's in a woman's handbag?

* - Kramer, D.; "Turning Telescopes Inwards"; American Journal of Astrophysics pp. 228-265 Vol. 30 No. 2 (1978).


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Post by LoC978 on Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 16:20

basically, they have millions of variations of this.

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 18:40

She wears invisible web gear.

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Post by maverick375 on Fri 3 Apr 2009 - 23:01

I know of the transdimentional properties of a woman's purse, and I believe it to be a form of localized null-space.

However, Henrietta does not have her purse in that game shot. I think she might be using an Elite Force style pattern buffer. Her reloads are similar to the way the NPC's in Elite Force change weapons.
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Post by Danjo3 on Sat 4 Apr 2009 - 2:39

@Nachtsider wrote:I've heard that Ernest's motive was not an altruistic one, i.e. not motivated by any love for his cyborg or a moral objection to the Agency's activities.
From what I recall of the translations (provided by Panzer I believe) the death scenes for both Ernest and Pia are pretty emotional. In other words, regardless of Ernestís true motives, he really does care for Pia.

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Post by Nachtsider on Sat 4 Apr 2009 - 2:58

As I've mentioned, it's all hearsay, albeit hearsay that I've been hearing lots of. Some sources mention he cared for Pia, others say he didn't. But the bit about Ernest being in cahoots with Padania is consistently stressed. But now that you mention the existence of translations, the latter might well be the truth.

Perhaps it was something along these lines. Ernest did care for Pia, and was duped by Padania into rebelling, being falsely promised that they would be protected and Pia somehow cured, while in fact all the terrorists wanted was technical info.

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Post by Danjo3 on Sat 4 Apr 2009 - 3:33

@Nachtsider wrote:Perhaps it was something along these lines. Ernest did care for Pia, and was duped by Padania into rebelling, being falsely promised that they would be protected and Pia somehow cured, while in fact all the terrorists wanted was technical info.
I can see that, and Iím sure he never counted on the little twerp stealing his heart.

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Post by Triela on Sat 4 Apr 2009 - 12:40

@Danjo3 wrote:
@Nachtsider wrote:I've heard that Ernest's motive was not an altruistic one, i.e. not motivated by any love for his cyborg or a moral objection to the Agency's activities.
From what I recall of the translations (provided by Panzer I believe) the death scenes for both Ernest and Pia are pretty emotional. In other words, regardless of Ernestís true motives, he really does care for Pia.

Yes it was very emotional. Even though I couldn't understand what they were saying it made me cry.

Spoiler:
Pia and Henrietta has this epic battle and when Pia's HP goes down to 0 she blows up where she and Henrietta are. Henrietta survives, but Pia is pinned under rocks, speaking her last words to Henrietta. Ernist comes along and sees Pia dead and he picks up her gun and begins to fight Henrietta. Ernist is the last boss battle. (The battle is creepy because once his HP goes down to 0 he gets back up. That keeps happening over and over. When you finally drop his HP to 0 for the last time a cutscene happens. Dying, Ernist crawls to where Pia is laying, trying to reach her and saying her name.(Names and some simple words I have come to understand) Ernist dies next to Pia.

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Post by Guest on Sat 4 Apr 2009 - 21:20

@Nachtsider wrote:Perhaps it was something along these lines. Ernest did care for Pia, and was duped by Padania into rebelling, being falsely promised that they would be protected and Pia somehow cured, while in fact all the terrorists wanted was technical info.

When I heard about it I thought that Ernesto did care for Pia but believed in the Padanian cause as well, and was willing to sacrifice Pia for the freedom of the South.

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Post by Danjo3 on Sun 5 Apr 2009 - 2:00

@Triela wrote:
Spoiler:
Pia and Henrietta has this epic battle and when Pia's HP goes down to 0 she blows up where she and Henrietta are. Henrietta survives, but Pia is pinned under rocks, speaking her last words to Henrietta. Ernist comes along and sees Pia dead and he picks up her gun and begins to fight Henrietta. Ernist is the last boss battle. (The battle is creepy because once his HP goes down to 0 he gets back up. That keeps happening over and over. When you finally drop his HP to 0 for the last time a cutscene happens. Dying, Ernist crawls to where Pia is laying, trying to reach her and saying her name.(Names and some simple words I have come to understand) Ernist dies next to Pia.
If you can Triela, post it. Iíd love to see it!

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 5 Apr 2009 - 15:17

@J the Drafter wrote:When I heard about it I thought that Ernesto did care for Pia but believed in the Padanian cause as well, and was willing to sacrifice Pia for the freedom of the South.

Padania is fighting for the freedom of the northern Regions of Italy.

The organized crime families already control Southern Italy in the GSG world (as they pretty much do in the real one).

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Post by Triela on Sun 5 Apr 2009 - 15:20

@Danjo3 wrote:
@Triela wrote:
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Pia and Henrietta has this epic battle and when Pia's HP goes down to 0 she blows up where she and Henrietta are. Henrietta survives, but Pia is pinned under rocks, speaking her last words to Henrietta. Ernist comes along and sees Pia dead and he picks up her gun and begins to fight Henrietta. Ernist is the last boss battle. (The battle is creepy because once his HP goes down to 0 he gets back up. That keeps happening over and over. When you finally drop his HP to 0 for the last time a cutscene happens. Dying, Ernist crawls to where Pia is laying, trying to reach her and saying her name.(Names and some simple words I have come to understand) Ernist dies next to Pia.
If you can Triela, post it. Iíd love to see it!

Alright. That'll be the net vid I post! I'm not sure when I can though. I'll try to do it as soon as I have some free time. ^_^

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Post by Danjo3 on Mon 6 Apr 2009 - 3:06

@Triela wrote:Alright. That'll be the net vid I post! I'm not sure when I can though. I'll try to do it as soon as I have some free time. ^_^
Cool, can't wait! dancin\\'

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Post by maverick375 on Thu 30 Apr 2009 - 22:06

I've only played through the second game, but didn't Ernest die when the pillar fell on him in the train station? There was a hell of a lot of blood there, and Pia was pissed, in that terrible voice acting scream of hers.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 30 Apr 2009 - 22:22

Bad guys dont die, they hide and come back inthe next version of the game Evil

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Post by MadHatChemist on Mon 11 May 2009 - 1:02

I know of the transdimentional properties of a woman's purse, and I believe it to be a form of localized null-space.

It's like Felix the Cat's magical bag of tricks?
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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 11 May 2009 - 22:15

Yes, but only worse. The things inside are being used against you!

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