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Post by Guest on Sun 2 Aug 2009 - 10:53

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 2 Aug 2009 - 14:47

If you want to see what Claes looks like in her late teens, watch Aoi Hana.

If you want to see what Triela looks like in her late teens, watch Canaan.

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Post by Piero on Sun 2 Aug 2009 - 17:48


She can help clean my weapon if she wants. Wink

Sorry... couldn't resist. Well, okay, I could resist making that comment, but it's more fun not to. Razz

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sun 2 Aug 2009 - 18:42

Very nice and well done!
Good to the artist!

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Post by commanderagl on Sun 2 Aug 2009 - 23:47

WOAH. quite amazing.


Technically the girls could grow if the agency wanted it, they get the prosthetics replaced every so often so the agency could always give them larger ones.

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 3:37

True Alg,

But the major flaw in that plan is that they must use conditioning as a substitute for a sedative. And every replacement of a lib takes a toll on their binds. that and the Conditioning itself is already fucking the mind over a bit.

I take it you saw how Angelica eventually became worse and worse because of the conditioning she took (which was a way higher dose then what Triela received). In the end it made her nearly demented before death came around the corner.

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Post by Danjo3 on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 5:34

They have dropped hints from time to time that the conditioning process is being improved. Maybe this will come into play later on.

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Post by MikhailN on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 5:45

@Danjo3 wrote:They have dropped hints from time to time that the conditioning process is being improved. Maybe this will come into play later on.

Yup not only is it becoming better, it's also becoming more expensive. Two foreseeable ways this can go:

1. More expensive = high upkeep costs => Close down SWA
2. Better = Immortality? Fountain of Youth?

The second's not as likely as the first. We're in for one heck of a nasty ride

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Post by Guest on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 9:15

Nachtsider wrote:Here ya go.
Very nice and well done!
to the artist!
Hey, you've posted that somewhere before Nacht-sen! I've seen it here somewhere...

...but that certainly does look like Rico...

If you want to see what Claes looks like in her late teens, watch Aoi Hana.

If you want to see what Triela looks like in her late teens, watch Canaan.
Sorry, I do not follow anime or manga any longer after IB. I strangely find novels and writing more entertaining these days....

Then again, that was another character entirely and was probably a rough idea on how they would look like in the future.

The second's not as likely as the first. We're in for one heck of a nasty ride
Not as likely. The first wouldn't be a likely outcome either. Remember in which chapter I don't remember that a kid is using prosthetic limbs benefited from the Agency's cyborgs. In other words, the girls were not only WMDs--they were also test subjects in order to benefit society.

So I figured the Agency would earn extra by selling the mechanical bodies to those who would need them. And hey, not only they can run normally, the girls probably get to grow up also.

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 23:13

@Danjo3 wrote:They have dropped hints from time to time that the conditioning process is being improved. Maybe this will come into play later on.

I sure fucking hope so.

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Post by West Nile on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 8:33

i have another theory, the japanese are now bored with children for their lolis and want teens... also explains Petra's very existence. so it's just art

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 8:39

@West Nile wrote:i have another theory, the japanese are now bored with children for their lolis and want teens... also explains Petra's very existence. so it's just art

I have a better theory. Variety is the spice of life. Why settle for the loli market when you can try for the other markets. Petra is for those going after teens, Claes is for the meganekko fetish, Henrietta and Rico are for the Run! and Triela is for the tsundere fans. I foresee Yu will try to catch the ones with err.... older tastes.

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 9:34

I think he already has - there's pics of Ferro in lingerie floating around on the Internet. All I can say about them is that those stuffy suits of hers totally belie what they conceal.

P.S. - Triela a tsundere? Really?

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 9:55

@Nachtsider wrote:P.S. - Triela a tsundere? Really?

Not in the "classic" sense, but she does have a "hard" and a "soft" side so it probably works as well as anything.

Though knowing Japan, I am sure there is a word for "pigtail fetish" so maybe she covers that one, as well.

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 10:04

@Kiskaloo wrote:
@Nachtsider wrote:P.S. - Triela a tsundere? Really?

Not in the "classic" sense, but she does have a "hard" and a "soft" side so it probably works as well as anything.

Though knowing Japan, I am sure there is a word for "pigtail fetish" so maybe she covers that one, as well.

Well, if you don't buy that then I have another one for you that's a bit NSFW

Spoiler:
Sigmund Freud was right. That shotgun she's wielding is an unconscious phallic symbol and a girl doing that up-down action after every shot is like she's unconsciously telling us what she wants to do. Better yet, throw in that bayonet that's used for stabbing. Though you may not interpret it that way at first, your unconscious is telling you that's what she wants. I love Freudian theory Very Happy

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 10:08

Spoiler:
Many folks have said much the same about Elsa lovingly rubbing the barrel of her assault rifle in the anime while talking about her love for Lauro.

Of course, what does that say about Triela cutting off the stock in Volume 11? A subtle hint to Hillshire that he should stop visiting Prosecutor Giulefi? sweat

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Post by Danjo3 on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 10:13

@Kiskaloo wrote:Not in the "classic" sense, but she does have a "hard" and a "soft" side so it probably works as well as anything.
That pretty much applies to all the girls.
@Kiskaloo wrote:Of course, what does that say about Triela cutting off the stock in Volume 11? A subtle hint to Hillshire that he should stop visiting Prosecutor Giulefi?
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Post by MikhailN on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 10:19

@Kiskaloo wrote:
Spoiler:
Many folks have said much the same about Elsa lovingly rubbing the barrel of her assault rifle in the anime while talking about her love for Lauro.

Of course, what does that say about Triela cutting off the stock in Volume 11? A subtle hint to Hillshire that he should stop visiting Prosecutor Giulefi? sweat

Yes. It's an expression of envy (Freud had an interesting name for it).

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 10:19

@Danjo3 wrote:
@Kiskaloo wrote:Not in the "classic" sense, but she does have a "hard" and a "soft" side so it probably works as well as anything.
That pretty much applies to all the girls.

I believe "tsundere" applies just to their personality.

Claes doesn't really have a "soft" side in that sense. And Henrietta doesn't really have a "hard" side. And Rico and Beatrice have neither sides, really.

Even with Triela, the two sides, while distinct, are quite muted (especially as applies to "classic tsunderism" where on one hand a girl is "hard as nails" and on the other has a "heart of gold").

And Elsa was pure "hard".

Mind you, as an Old School anime fan we didn't bother to break down girls into "types" so really, I don't understand all these terms that New School anime fans toss around like "tsundere" and "moe". All that mattered was how good they looked in the obligatory shower scene.

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 10:43

Freud was impossible, really. To him, everything had to do with one's mother or one's phallus. That being said, Mik's Freudian analysis cracked me up good and proper. Laughing

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 10:51

Also...

@MikhailN wrote:Better yet, throw in that bayonet that's used for stabbing.
In before pegging. Laughing

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Post by Robert Frazer on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 10:54

Of course, what does that say about Triela cutting off the stock in Volume 11? A subtle hint to Hillshire that he should stop visiting Prosecutor Giulefi?

I'm not so sure - cutting down the stock means that there's less cushioning, so the force of the weapon's recoil hits you harder. Triela's already making advances towards Hilshire... her adaptation of her Winchester is telegraphing her preferences, so that the first tryst won't be dissatisfying. The little minx is letting Hilshire know that she likes it rough. Wink

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Post by Danjo3 on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 12:33

@Robert Frazer wrote:The little minx is letting Hilshire know that she likes it rough. Wink
I always suspected that about her. Evil

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 15:28

@Danjo3 wrote:
@Robert Frazer wrote:The little minx is letting Hilshire know that she likes it rough. Wink
I always suspected that about her. Evil

Same here, is that a good thing? I dunno, maybe because as they say "Great mind think alike."

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Post by Piero on Fri 14 Aug 2009 - 17:48

I'll admit that 'moe' is a kind of isoteric term (supposedly, hardcore moe fans claim that moe is supposed to have the effect of turning your brain to mush...), but I find tsundere a pretty useful descriptor. Of course, it does have a bit of a problem in that it refers to such a broad range of characters. Some tsunderes like Triela are pretty mild, while others are pretty extreme. I tend to really like the more mild types, since the mutli-sided personality often makes them seem more real, but I dislike a lot of the really extreme ones.

Actually, at the risk of overgeneralising a bit, I'd say that there's no better anime character then a well written tsundere, and no worse anime character then a poorly written one. Laughing

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Post by Danjo3 on Sat 15 Aug 2009 - 0:42

@Tommygunner70 wrote:
@Danjo3 wrote:I always suspected that about her. Evil
Same here, is that a good thing? I dunno, maybe because as they say "Great mind think alike."
That they do.Good

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Post by zarien85 on Sat 21 Aug 2010 - 16:42

@Nachtsider wrote:Cyborg or not, he/she is still human, and therefore deserves to be treated with the dignity that any fading warrior should. I'd push hard for he/she to retire peacefully and spend the remainder of his/her life in a non-combat capacity. If the brass insist on combat deployment, however, I would seek a compromise by putting the cyborg in a sniper, support or designated marksman role - something that would negate the problems brought about by his/her weaknesses.


i agree with you all the way that is probably how the brass see it anyway if they r human

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Post by Totoum on Wed 8 Sep 2010 - 4:26

@Kiskaloo wrote:If you want to see what Triela looks like in her late teens, watch Canaan.

So you mean her breast size will decrease as she gets older? Razz

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