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Post by LoC978 on Tue 9 Jun 2009 - 12:03

@Awinnell wrote:TCI/TEI M89SR
...trying to give away Orazio's rifle? for shame! Razz

...I always wanted to make one of those, but they don't sell the conversion kits to just anyone (also, they're $3000, and require a donor M14).

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Post by boomer_gonz on Tue 9 Jun 2009 - 13:47

@Kiskaloo wrote:That's a Barret M82/M107 anti-material rifle. The M2 and M903 .50 BMG rounds will penetrate lightly-armored vehicles, but the gun is not meant to take on a main battle tank.

That is unless you aim for the treads. Speaking of tanks I completely forgot about that thread...

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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 9 Jun 2009 - 13:50

@boomer_gonz wrote:
@Kiskaloo wrote:That's a Barret M82/M107 anti-material rifle. The M2 and M903 .50 BMG rounds will penetrate lightly-armored vehicles, but the gun is not meant to take on a main battle tank.

That is unless you aim for the treads.

Not sure even then it would work, to be honest.

Shooting it up the arse might do damage to the engine area.

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Post by boomer_gonz on Tue 9 Jun 2009 - 13:53

For some odd reason that made me laugh a whole hell of a lot.

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Post by LoC978 on Tue 9 Jun 2009 - 14:49

yeah, a single .50BMG would have to be extremely well-placed to mess up a tank tread. A belt of 'em, on the other hand...

and yes. 'up the arse' (exhaust port) is the preferred method.

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Post by Awinnell on Tue 9 Jun 2009 - 15:16

@LoC978 wrote:
'up the arse' (exhaust port) is the preferred method.

for some reason that reminded me of Oddball !



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Post by Nachtsider on Tue 9 Jun 2009 - 15:40

Kelly's Heroes for the win.

My personal preference would be to lay down some explosives on the engine's upper paneling.

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Re: Rico should switch to AWP sniper rifle

Post by rusty-spring on Tue 9 Jun 2009 - 19:22

If Valkyria Chronicles is to be believed, I can zoom in a speedy Scout (like Alicia), run up 10 feet behind it, and pump 5 rifle rounds into it's blue glowing nuclear radiator and blow it to hell. Awesome!

Course those are the light tanks. Heavy tanks might take 10 rounds. Razz

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Post by West Nile on Wed 10 Jun 2009 - 2:59

@rusty-spring wrote:If Valkyria Chronicles is to be believed, I can zoom in a speedy Scout (like Alicia), run up 10 feet behind it, and pump 5 rifle rounds into it's blue glowing nuclear radiator and blow it to hell. Awesome!

Course those are the light tanks. Heavy tanks might take 10 rounds. Razz

well if only all tanks have something glowing which would shout to the people "hit me here!!"

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Post by kamajii on Wed 10 Jun 2009 - 15:23

So, it's about tanks and what about Rico? Smile

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Post by West Nile on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 4:57

Rico punching a hole through a bullet proof Ferarri dancin\\'

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Post by kamajii on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 6:02

Rico needed RPG-18 against bulletproof Ferrari. Smile

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Post by West Nile on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 6:09

how sure are you that the anti tank rifle can't do the job? the machine already did the Ferrari in in canon

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Post by kamajii on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 10:15

The weight of anti-tank .50 rifle is about 10-15 Kg. The weight of RPG-18 (RPG-26) is about 2.5-2.9 Kg. .50 can defeat 10-20 mm armor, RPG - about 400-450 mm.

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Post by emperor on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 8:09

I offer Rico to use LR-300 sniper rifle.

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 8:15

@emperor wrote:I offer Rico to use LR-300 sniper rifle.

Then I'll offer the H&K 417. I'm not very familiar with the LR300.

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Re: Rico should switch to AWP sniper rifle

Post by rshackleford on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 12:53

Yeah, but the .50 cal is a helluva lot more accurate and has longer range. I doubt anything in the terrorist arsenal is armored enough to stop a .50 cal round.

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Re: Rico should switch to AWP sniper rifle

Post by kamajii on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 14:27

@emperor wrote:I offer Rico to use LR-300 sniper rifle.
It's M4 version? So what is the profit? I think M14 must be best choice in USA rifles for marksman as Rico.

UPD:
Range
of effective fire -
300 m

It's ridiculous choice even vs SVD
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Post by kamajii on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 14:30

@rshackleford wrote:Yeah, but the .50 cal is a helluva lot more accurate and has longer range. I doubt anything in the terrorist arsenal is armored enough to stop a .50 cal round.

How often GSG shoot on ">1 km" ranges? What's happining if somebody shoot with .50 on the old Italien town's street?

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Re: Rico should switch to AWP sniper rifle

Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 14:34

@kamajii wrote:
@rshackleford wrote:Yeah, but the .50 cal is a helluva lot more accurate and has longer range. I doubt anything in the terrorist arsenal is armored enough to stop a .50 cal round.

How often GSG shoot on ">1 km" ranges? What's happining if somebody shoot with .50 on the old Italien town's street?

Never that we have seen. The only .50 BMG we've seen in the canon is in Chapter 63.

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Re: Rico should switch to AWP sniper rifle

Post by kamajii on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 14:44

I think, it's easy to find good sniper for "dirty" work on long range. High risk "close combat" - is the mission of GSG's.

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 19:00

Elsa had a .50 sniping piece.

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Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 19:07

they should be able to snipe with pistols...

They should just make the cyborgs just that super human that they fuggin do some magix calculations of trajectory..maybe it'll be a snap on accessory for the cyborg

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Re: Rico should switch to AWP sniper rifle

Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 19:36

@Nachtsider wrote:Elsa had a .50 sniping piece.

I am of the opinion that her Hecate in Episode 9 is the "Mini-Hecate" (338) chambered for .338 Lapua Magnum. It's a pure sniper rifle as opposed to the .50 BMG Hecate II, which is an anti-material rifle.

Especially at the ranges they work working from, they would not have needed the 338, to say nothing of the II. It also wasn't much longer than the SiG550 she was using which better matches the 338 as opposed to the II.

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 19:47

@Nachtsider wrote:Elsa had a .50 sniping piece.

And I'm not sure why. .50 sniper rifles are generally used as anti-material rifles because the .50 round has a lot of kinetic energy when it's fired, so they can shoot at stuff to disable them. Also, because of the high kinetic energy, the stopping power is still retained even after travelling over long distances (that's why those 2500+yard stunners are performed mainly by .50BMG rounds). However, there are several disadvantages. Because of its weight, the .50 round tends to travel slower than smaller calibres like .223 or .308 and the shooter needs to take that into account, especially over long ranges. Also, .50 rifles have to have long barrels for higher muzzle velocities (it's complicated. More time in barrel means that the expanding gases have more time to accelerate the round. Excellent for the .50 because it has a lot of gunpowder in the cartridge to propel the heavy round) and in built up areas it becomes difficult to lug that long thing around.

For closer ranges like what the SWA handles, smaller calibres (I'm thinking .223 or .308) are actually recommended because it allows the rifle to be smaller (you don't have to dismantle the rifle to put into that Amanti case, which will muck up your sighting into another dimension) and the lighter bullet means that the bullet doesn't spend that much time in flight, making it less susceptible to wind. If they're worried abou stopping power, the short distance doesn't do much to that and if they're so worried, use HPBT rounds. Those are evil and do wonders for accuracy. snipe

So at this point the only explanation as to why Elsa was lugging that .50 around is that the anime producers Did Not Do The Research.

@tsundere9kagami2 wrote:they should be able to snipe with pistols...

They should just make the cyborgs just that super human that they fuggin do
some magix calculations of trajectory..maybe it'll be a snap on accessory for the cyborg

No way. Refer to above. Those 9mm rounds would probably do nothing more than bounce off the guy

@Kiskaloo wrote:
@Nachtsider wrote:Elsa had a .50 sniping piece.

I am of the opinion that her Hecate in Episode 9 is the "Mini-Hecate"
(338) chambered for .338 Lapua Magnum. It's a pure sniper rifle as
opposed to the .50 BMG Hecate II, which is an anti-material rifle.

Especially at the ranges they work working from, they would not have needed the
338, to say nothing of the II. It also wasn't much longer than the
SiG550 she was using which better matches the 338 as opposed to the
II.

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 20:06

Kisk: lolwut? The piece I saw in the anime had that square muzzle-brake thingy, which the Mini doesn't have.

As for reasons why, my copy of the anime has Lauro mentioning to Giuseppe that they brought the Hecate along "in case the shit hit the fan". Maybe they were considering the possibility that the target might be rolling up in a bullet-proof car or something.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 20:09

Actually, the PGM338 appears to at least be available with the same type of muzzle brake as the Hecate II based on looking at pictures of the two to try and get a better idea.

Anyway, .50 BMG strikes me as overkill for a GSG, but maybe the borrowed it from Section 1's snipers.


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Post by MikhailN on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 20:10

@Nachtsider wrote:As for reasons why, my copy of the anime has Lauro mentioning to Giuseppe that they brought the Hecate along "in case the shit hit the fan". Maybe they were considering the possibility that the target might be rolling up in a bullet-proof car or something.

That's not likely too. They shot him on the steps, so unless the armoured car moved up the steps or the chap turned up in some really new body armour they shouldn't need .50

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 20:14

Okay... maybe they were expecting a squad of heavily armed gunmen in bullet-proof cars? As in, expecting their plan would be rumbled, and a hit squad turned up instead of the mark? I can't believe I'm being an apologist for what's possibly nothing more than shoddy research. Laughing

You know, I actually doubt they got their target. SOP for VIP escort says that in an entourage, the 'VIP' is actually a bodyguard disguised as the VIP, while the real VIP is disguised as one of the bodyguards.

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Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 20:15

@MikhailN wrote:
@tsundere9kagami2 wrote:they should be able to snipe with pistols...

They should just make the cyborgs just that super human that they fuggin do
some magix calculations of trajectory..maybe it'll be a snap on accessory for the cyborg

No way. Refer to above. Those 9mm rounds would probably do nothing more than bounce off the guy


well than you can tap people on the shoulder with bullets..That would freak me out a bullt just suddenly taps on me and falls down.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 20:15

They had a clear visual on him, so I'm guessing they knew it was him when they took him out.

Especially since Jean didn't read them the riot act in Episode 10 for not completing the mission. Razz

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Post by West Nile on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 4:26

@Nachtsider wrote:
You know, I actually doubt they got their target. SOP for VIP escort says that in an entourage, the 'VIP' is actually a bodyguard disguised as the VIP, while the real VIP is disguised as one of the bodyguards.

i seriously doubt the efficency of that strategy, what if the people just want to kidnap the VIP but RPGs the service car where the VIP is disguised as a bodyguard.

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Post by kamajii on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 4:42

@MikhailN wrote:
No way. Refer to above. Those 9mm rounds would probably do nothing more than bounce off the guy

Noway say noway! Smile
A very different 9 mm rounds exist. SP-5 and SP-6 is for example (for silent special sniper rifle and assault rifle, even anti-armor version exist).

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Post by MikhailN on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 5:07

@kamajii wrote:
@MikhailN wrote:
No way. Refer to above. Those 9mm rounds would probably do nothing more than bounce off the guy

Noway say noway! Smile
A very different 9 mm rounds exist. SP-5 and SP-6 is for example (for silent special sniper rifle and assault rifle, even anti-armor version exist).

I know, but he's talking about sniping with a pistol. What's the muzzle velocity for a 9mm pistol round? After travelling for about 100m will the bullet still have the same stopping power? Even if they do manage to pull off the trajectory calculations (which is relatively easy. Projectile motion is parabolic) they need to take into account wind and other stuff like that because the bullet stays so long in flight. It is easier and more practical to use a rifle than a pistol for ranges more than 50m, unless limited by other factors.

By the way, the 2 rounds you're talking about are used in rifles, which have longer barrel lengths and hence higher muzzle velocities

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Post by kamajii on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 5:24

Sniper pistol kit

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Post by Nachtsider on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 5:25

Jesus, you might as well just use a rifle...

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Post by kamajii on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 5:36

I just want to say: "No way say no way!" World is fullfilled with a very exotic solutions. Smile

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Post by LoC978 on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 13:14

One problem with that thing: the iron sights are in line with the magnification scope. Big no-no.

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Post by boomer_gonz on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 15:34

@kamajii wrote:Sniper pistol kit

Does that come with a three-point harness?

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Post by kamajii on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 15:51

@boomer_gonz wrote:
@kamajii wrote:Sniper pistol kit

Does that come with a three-point harness?

"Three-point" what, excuse me? Smile

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Post by boomer_gonz on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 16:41

It's a harness that not only slings the gun over your shoulder, but wraps around your waist to assure that the gun is always at your hip.

My OC Alpha uses one for his G3A4 while his rifle's use standard over the shoulder ones.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 16:43

@LoC978 wrote:One problem with that thing: the iron sights are in line with the magnification scope. Big no-no.

I thought it was to make the iron sights look bigger so they were easier to see. Razz

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Post by Awinnell on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 16:55

obvious fake

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Post by West Nile on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 22:12

looks like something made from that website where you can put guns together... i don't even know where you can put some of the parts in

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Post by MikhailN on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 0:23

@West Nile wrote:looks like something made from that website where you can put guns together... i don't even know where you can put some of the parts in

I think the stuff you're looking for is called Adobe Photoshop

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Post by West Nile on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 0:35

Actually i was referring to this
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Post by kamajii on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 2:52

OK, it's my fault. This photo was first in google results and I am too lasy to search anything else. But it not "Photoshop".
It's airsoft T68 Gen3 Sniper Pistol Kit
http://www.rap4.com/paintball/os/gen3-sniper-pistol-p-2572.html
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Anytime, I don't think, that pistol can replace sniper rifle. But, i some situations, when special weapon is't accessible, such variants can be.
Before VSS Vintorez was created, soviet specops use such variant.

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Post by rshackleford on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 15:08

@kamajii wrote:
@rshackleford wrote:Yeah, but the .50 cal is a helluva lot more accurate and has longer range. I doubt anything in the terrorist arsenal is armored enough to stop a .50 cal round.

How often GSG shoot on ">1 km" ranges? What's happining if somebody shoot with .50 on the old Italien town's street?

You're really suggesting that a RPG does less collateral damage than a 50 cal? Gee, what to use on a crowded Italian street against an armored target, a weapon that is precise and clean, or a weapon that has a kill radius of 20 meters? And if the girls are accurate enough to hit a target with the first shot, which they are, then there really is little risk for collateral damage.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 15:26

Considering how cavalier Jean is about "collateral damage", I would imagine he'd choose the RPG since his goal is to kill the terrorist and he wouldn't want to skimp or risk an escape.

If anyone else dies, well, tough luck for them.

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Post by LoC978 on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 15:34

...he's smarter than that, I'd think.
Jean only worries about collateral damage if it runs the risk of exposing him/the agency.

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Post by kamajii on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 15:49

@rshackleford wrote:
You're really suggesting that a RPG does less collateral damage than a 50 cal? Gee, what to use on a crowded Italian street against an armored target, a weapon that is precise and clean, or a weapon that has a kill radius of 20 meters? And if the girls are accurate enough to hit a target with the first shot, which they are, then there really is little risk for collateral damage.
I think .50 rifle is more suitable for sniper shooting on long range out of city. It needed prepared position, time for targeting. Sniper rifle having more 12 Kg and 1.5 m is not suitable for short close combat on the streets. .50 don't guarantire 100% defeat of venhcicles with one shot. Grenade launcer does. My sentence about RPG-18 is joke. But 40 mm underbarrel grenade launcer like GP-30 or M203, or light grenade launcer like GM-94 or M79 is good enough. They have enough power and more compact then .50 rifle.
.50 is the best only for shooting on long range with high accuracy, IMHO.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 15:54

@LoC978 wrote:...he's smarter than that, I'd think.

I wonder, honestly.

He told Rico to kill anyone who saw her in Chapter 2. Emilio was just the only person unlucky enough to see her.

And he told the girls to not bother trying to save the hostages in Venice (one who is supposedly the bloody PRIME MINISTER) because they needed to focus on killing the terrorists, even though Minister Petris and Director Lorenzo gave orders to rescue them.

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Post by LoC978 on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 16:00

[quote="kamajii"]
@rshackleford wrote: .50 don't guarantire 100% defeat of venhcicles with one shot. Grenade launcer does.
...
But 40 mm underbarrel grenade launcer like GP-30 or M203, or light grenade launcer like GM-94 or M79 is good enough. They have enough power and more compact then .50 rifle.
.50 is the best only for shooting on long range with high accuracy, IMHO.
actually... a 40mm grenade is not a guaranteed kill shot on even a civilian truck. A .50 BMG round will most likely pierce an engine block with a well-placed shot, a 40mm grenade's best chance at disabling a vehicle is by killing the driver and passengers (or flipping it over, if its small enough).
But neither is terribly effective as anti-vehicle ammunition (unless used en masse, such as in the case of the Browning M2 machine gun or Mk19 grenade machine gun).

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Post by LoC978 on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 16:03

@Kiskaloo wrote:
@LoC978 wrote:...he's smarter than that, I'd think.

I wonder, honestly.

He told Rico to kill anyone who saw her in Chapter 2. Emilio was just the only person unlucky enough to see her.

And he told the girls to not bother trying to save the hostages in Venice (one who is supposedly the bloody PRIME MINISTER) because they needed to focus on killing the terrorists, even though Minister Petris and Director Lorenzo gave orders to rescue them.
both of those are a little different from utilizing large explosive weaponry in front of hundreds if not thousands of witnesses... but I see your point.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 16:10

He'd just blame it on Franco and Franca.

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Post by MikhailN on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 19:29

[quote="LoC978"]
@kamajii wrote:
@rshackleford wrote: .50 don't guarantire 100% defeat of venhcicles with one shot. Grenade launcer does.
...
But 40 mm underbarrel grenade launcer like GP-30 or M203, or light grenade launcer like GM-94 or M79 is good enough. They have enough power and more compact then .50 rifle.
.50 is the best only for shooting on long range with high accuracy, IMHO.
actually... a 40mm grenade is not a guaranteed kill shot on even a civilian truck. A .50 BMG round will most likely pierce an engine block with a well-placed shot, a 40mm grenade's best chance at disabling a vehicle is by killing the driver and passengers (or flipping it over, if its small enough).
But neither is terribly effective as anti-vehicle ammunition (unless used en masse, such as in the case of the Browning M2 machine gun or Mk19 grenade machine gun).

Don't understand why you chaps think so highly of the .05 BMG round. Granted it retains a lot of the kinetic energy over long distances and is used for those 2000yard stunners, but it spends too long in flight because of its weight and that makes it very susceptible to wind, target moving etc. There are other kinds of ammo out there like the .408 (that one's supposed to be able to do 3000yard miracles) or .338 Lapua.

But the .50BMG can still be used to take out vehicles. Just shoot a few rounds at the engine or tyres snipe . Better yet, use HEIAP small arms ammo Nuke

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Post by LoC978 on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 19:56

as I said.
neither is terribly effective as anti-vehicle ammunition (unless used en masse, such as in the case of the Browning M2 machine gun or Mk19 grenade machine gun).
a single .50BMG will only stop a car/truck/SUV with a very well-placed shot. in the case of most military vehicles, it's next to useless (except en masse, of course).

...and why go smaller for anti-vehicle rounds when you can go bigger?



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Post by MikhailN on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 20:03

@LoC978 wrote:as I said.
neither is terribly effective as anti-vehicle ammunition (unless used en masse, such as in the case of the Browning M2 machine gun or Mk19 grenade machine gun).
a single .50BMG will only stop a car/truck/SUV with a very well-placed shot. in the case of most military vehicles, it's next to useless (except en masse, of course).

Actually I was addressing more of the strange idea that the .50 is accurate, long-range and powerful. Ok, powerful is a given, and long range usually comes with that but accurate ... Puzzled not really. Must be those damned computer games putting strange ideas in people's heads

I think we already have something that can stop a car. It's called Rico. She uses an MG3 and we've seen it stop vehicles at least once

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Post by LoC978 on Sun 14 Jun 2009 - 20:10

Well, the .50BMG can be accurate... not at the sort of ranges you're suggesting, but even a 1000m shot on a human silhouette is still an accomplishment (considering the maximum point-target range on the 5.56NATO is only 550m).
Also, I'm not talking about the same ammo you feed into a Ma Deuce in belts. Match-grade .50BMG is out there, and tends to easily maintain accuracy and trajectory up to 1000m (1500 on a windless day).

...and considering the girls tend to fight in urban terrain, I really don't think we'll ever see Rico need to reach out and touch someone at even 1000m, much less 2-3000.

we already have something that can stop a car. It's called Rico. She uses an MG3 and we've seen it stop vehicles at least once
-very true. any machine gun 30-cal and up can stop a car. when one bullet won't do, give 'em "the whole nine yards" (see the definition from WWII)

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