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Post by Richarddr1234 on Mon 8 Jun 2009 - 11:41

Yeah, I was just wondering if anyone here has any ideas as to whether the girls undergo physical development of any sort? I dunno, cause when I look at Claes, it seems she grew older in the manga. Or do the girls stay young forever? This has just kept me wondering for the longest time.

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 8 Jun 2009 - 11:51

The general consensus here is that they do not physically age - only mentally so.

How the hell does someone who's eighty percent carbon frame, carbon fiber and artificial muscle grow?

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Post by Triela on Mon 8 Jun 2009 - 11:56

Nacht is right. Yu Aida's style of art just changed.

As an artist myself I can understand that. (Though I like his old style better) My art teacher told me once: "If your style doesn't change every once in a while you're a failed artist."

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 8 Jun 2009 - 14:19

We know the girls can be made to look physically older through the application of facial cosmetics, hairstyle and cosmetic prosthesis.

Petra and Triela both passed for 20 when they guarded Prosecutor Roberta Guellfi in Rome.

Claes passed for 15-16 when she boarded the boat on Lake Maggiore when she and Petra captured the two bombers.

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Post by sasahara17 on Tue 9 Jun 2009 - 0:22

For the sake of argument, I'll side with Kiskaloo here.

Art style aside, I don't think it would make much sense to not be able to artificially 'age' the girls to suit the mission at hand. One of their central purposes is to act as terminator style assassin/inflitrators, so changing their ages at will would be a significant avantage.

...Then again, Henrietta is as short as ever.

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Post by West Nile on Tue 9 Jun 2009 - 8:26

@sasahara17 wrote:
...Then again, Henrietta is as short as ever.

GSG at the Carnival

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Post by sasahara17 on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 7:52

@West Nile wrote:
@sasahara17 wrote:
...Then again, Henrietta is as short as ever.

GSG at the Carnival

Carnival attendant: sorry little girl, it would apear your too short for this ride
Henrietta: *Whimper*
Carnival attendant: aww don't cry, maybe on your next birthday you can be tall enough to ride
Henrietta: JOOOOZZZZZEEEEE!!!! Hissy fit
LoL!

Reminds me of that theme park from Hayate no Gotoku. Poor Henrietta, that roller coaster will always be just beyond your reach.

(As aside note while I'm no theme parks, that helicopter crash at Dreamworld looks horrible.What the heck happened?)

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Post by West Nile on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 9:04

Because helicopters don't have an height limit... yet

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Post by sasahara17 on Thu 2 Jul 2009 - 5:33

Y'know given that they don't age, it is entirely possible that some of the oldest of the 1st gens might actually be older than the youngest 2nd Gens.

Think for a moment; when a 'young' 2nd Gen walks up to Triela and calls her 'Miss Triela' out of respect for Triela's seniority and actual experience. How wierd would this be, considering that Triela appears to be 14 y.o. at best and the average 2nd Gen is 16-18 y.o.?

In fact, would a 1st Gen take this as a complement (Good Morning, Triela-sempai!), or would she be insulted (Move it You Old Bag!)?

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Post by Nachtsider on Thu 2 Jul 2009 - 7:10

I'm remembering that scene from Hellsing where Seras encounters Helena.

Methinks Triela would do away with any honorifics, and cheerfully insist that she merely be referred to by her first name. That's how I envision the Princess to roll.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 2 Jul 2009 - 9:03

@sasahara17 wrote:Y'know given that they don't age, it is entirely possible that some of the oldest of the 1st gens might actually be older than the youngest 2nd Gens.

I believe Triela is older than Petrushka by around two years and Angelica was the same age.

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Post by sasahara17 on Thu 2 Jul 2009 - 11:29

@Nachtsider wrote:I'm remembering that scene from Hellsing where Seras encounters Helena.

Methinks Triela would do away with any honorifics, and cheerfully insist that she merely be referred to by her first name. That's how I envision the Princess to roll.
Good point. Triela too much of nice girl to take pleasure in being called some stupid title.

I was hoping for a scene where super short Henrietta-onee-sama gives a bunch of taller 2nd gens tips on how o be good killer cyborgs.

@Kiskaloo wrote:I believe Triela is older than Petrushka by around two years and Angelica was the same age.
Wowzers. Does that mean Triela is the oldest cyborg in terms of actual age? Cool.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 2 Jul 2009 - 11:32

She should be. I think she's 18.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 2 Jul 2009 - 14:45

In terms of ages, Angie/Triela would be the oldest despite their non-aging appearencing making them in their young teens. Now here is where it gets tricky- where one has to calculate the precyborg age added to the cyborg age to get the real age of the person.

I would speculate that Rico and Henrietta would be next, followed by Claes, and then Beatrice although Bea has been a cyborg longer than Claes, she was put through the process at a younger age than Claes. As far as we can tell, Claes underwent the proceedure at 11, as did Rico.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 2 Jul 2009 - 14:55

This is what I use for my OC fiction, though it mirrors what I feel the canon is, as well. It assumes for the moment that Beatrice and Silvia died in Venice:


  • Angelica – Born 1989. Injured 1999. Converted 2001. Died 2005.
  • Triela – Born 1988. Injured 2000. Converted 2001.
  • Pia – Converted 2002.
  • Unknown Cyborg – Converted 2002.
  • Silvia – Converted 2002. Died 2006.
  • Chiara – Converted 2002.
  • Rico – Born 1991. Converted 2002.
  • Henrietta – Born 1992. Converted 2002.
  • Claes – Born 1991. Converted 2003.
  • Beatrice – Born 1992. Converted 2003. Died 2006.
  • “Liesel” – Converted 2004.
  • Elsa – Born 1992. Converted 2004.
  • Petrushka – Born 1989. Converted 2005.

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Post by hydra282 on Thu 2 Jul 2009 - 15:10

cheers Etta & Bici are just a year younger than me! Awesome!
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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 2 Jul 2009 - 17:11

That doe not mean that you could go to Italy and date them. They just might hurt more than your fellings when they draw their guns out and start shooting at you. Evil

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Post by sasahara17 on Thu 2 Jul 2009 - 21:58

So technically, some of the girls are LEGAL? Wow, this is big news.

Will this be enough to stop Hanson tho'?

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Post by Nachtsider on Thu 2 Jul 2009 - 22:55

They still look like kids, so...

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Post by hydra282 on Thu 2 Jul 2009 - 23:13

@ElfenMagix wrote:That doe not mean that you could go to Italy and date them. They just might hurt more than your fellings when they draw their guns out and start shooting at you. Evil
Actually, if they did shoot me, my love for them will defend me with heart shields. Once they notice how strong I feel, then we'll go get some ice cream. Yum! Very Happy
I'll also be able to help them on their missions with my invincibility. Smile
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Post by commanderagl on Mon 13 Jul 2009 - 22:36

Triela seems 14-15, Rico is probably at least 12-13, same for Henrietta, Petra is definitely 16 unless she had a birthday in the last few chapters and turned 17 (Sandro meets her b4 she becomes a cyborg and she states that she is 16)

The SWA probably does "help" the girls age/grow by changing the size of the prosthetics. also in Ch 56 when triela wakes up after being converted she looks younger than the current triela.


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Post by zarien85 on Sun 29 Aug 2010 - 22:36

well if they r adults dose that mean they get "special presents"?

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