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Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Piero on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 1:03

I think the flash banner needs to go. Every time I maximise a window with that in it my CPU usage jumps from nearly 0 to 30-50%. It's probably part of the reason my laptop has been overheating so frequently today.


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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by LoC978 on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 1:08

wow... we might just need to make an alternate no flash version of the site for low bandwidth/old Intel CPU users.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Piero on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 1:13

Actually, it seems not to cause that jump if I scroll down enough so that the banner is not visible in the browser window, but I still think it's contributed to why my laptop's overheating problem went from 'a few times over a period of months' to 'something like eight times a day' today...

It may partly be a problem with my laptop, as the thing should NOT be overheating under the conditions it is (it's a dual core system that's about a year old) but that banner is not helping... I've had more cases of my laptop overheating today then in several months previously.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by LoC978 on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 1:20

Dual-core pentium 4s are notorious for overheating, especially in laptops...

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Piero on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 1:27

This is my laptop's processor... it's not a Pentium 4, though it is an Intel.

http://processorfinder.intel.com/details.aspx?sSpec=SLA4D

I've been advised by Kiskaloo and my brother that I should try blowing some air through the system to try clearing out dust that may have gotten into it.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Guest on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 1:30

Intel Centrino for me all the way. Should've taken the Centrion due though...

My laptop's fine. Is it really that laggy? It only overheats when I run Ghostbusters in here which...well, you get the point.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by LoC978 on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 1:43

forgot they ditched the Pentium name... yeah, those ones.
...and my laptop has never overheated. just gets a little warm when I play Supreme Commander on it.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Whatface on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 2:11

Umm, well I guess its up to the Admins if they want to take it down.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by LoC978 on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 2:14

we'll see what the public consensus is first, then have a discussion 'bout it. I figure if its screwing up people's computers, we should probably bring it down until we figure out how to make a low-bandwidth version of the site (unless someone knows a way Piero can disable the flash player just for this site)


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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Triela on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 2:15

I think we should keep it for a looooong while. Then I can make a regular banner if you want. ^_^

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Post by Danjo3 on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 5:52

I think we should go back to the banner with the girls playing their interments. Thatís always been my favorite.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 9:21

I read that and thought

the girls playing their internets?

They cans have internets!? and the girls surfed /b all day

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Whatface on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 10:06

Ok, I updated the blasted banner again!


The Fart Button has a real purpose now. You can use it to turn off a bunch of the moving elements, if you think its CPU intensive or whatever. It saves your preference as well, so you don't have keep on turning it off every time the page is reloaded etc.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 11:03

Damn, but that banner really IS a resource hog. With nothing open but FireFox, when the banner is up both of my cores are in the upper-50% range. When I navigate to another page (so no banner), they drop to the mid-5% range.

My MacBook Pro has a Penryn-core 2.4GHz Core2 Duo Mobile.

Mind you, it doesn't seem to be stressing out my system, but still, a 10x increase in CPU power just to render a simple (no offense) Flash banner...

I'm not going to cast a vote, but I would not be against returning to a non-FLASH banner like the girls playing instruments.


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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by rusty-spring on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 13:19

If the CPU drain is bothering anyone that much, with AdBlock, you can easily just block the banner image so that it doesn't appear at all. This solution does of course make the forum look kinda bland without a banner, but it will spare your computer from that extra load. It's also reversible so you can make the banner appear again if you so wish.

Through my testing, it went from about 40-50% with full animation. 15-20% with the power button clicked and the large animation gone. And 1-2% with the banner blocked completely.

Just a suggestion to those who are finding it a drain for their computers. study

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Nuke is Good on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 13:23

rusty-spring wrote:If the CPU drain is bothering anyone that much, with AdBlock, you can easily just block the banner image so that it doesn't appear at all. This solution does of course make the forum look kinda bland without a banner, but it will spare your computer from that extra load. It's also reversible so you can make the banner appear again if you so wish.

Through my testing, it went from about 40-50% with full animation. 15-20% with the power button clicked and the large animation gone. And 1-2% with the banner blocked completely.

Just a suggestion to those who are finding it a drain for their computers. study

That's what I do. If I'm chatting at the chatroom I just block the banner.
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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Awinnell on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 13:23

Lol, UPGRADE !!!!

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by LoC978 on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 13:35

lol... upgrade...
I'd like to hear how much the banner stresses Kisk's Mac Pro...
is $10,000 in server hardware the solution to this?

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Awinnell on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 13:40

doesn't bother me and my pc is no where near that expensive max CPU usage is no more than 12%

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by LoC978 on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 13:42

...with the banner on-screen? flash is funny like that. out of sight, out of CPU.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Awinnell on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 13:43

hmm,when the slider moves it jumps to 18 %

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 13:50

I say keep it.
My PC laptop under Firefox will play it, but not IE.
Simillarly with my G4 under FireFox wont play it either... Not properly.

On those eystems- I get the background, and the Bact-vat, and a couple moving things, but the girls are missing.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 14:01

LoC978 wrote:lol... upgrade...I'd like to hear how much the banner stresses Kisk's Mac Pro...is $10,000 in server hardware the solution to this?

Well with eight cores to spread the load across, that helps. Wink

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by LoC978 on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 14:15

trying it out on my desktop for the first time (laptop is now installing updates... I had to go back to Vista on it Cry )... CPU usage jumps from 0-1% to the high 20s on my two-year-old 2.0GHz dual-core AMD.
the power/fart button puts it down around 5-7%

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Thanatos on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 14:28

Who the hell made it anyway?

Itīs fucking awesome.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 14:49

It seems to just bounce all over the place. Sometimes it's 50% and sometimes it's 20%. Puzzled

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Robert Frazer on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 14:58

For my part at least, I've been loading Cyborg Central pages without any discernible drop in performance at all. I've no problem with the new banner.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by KodokuRyuu on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 15:39

I'm willing to use the power button when I want a performance increase. I say we stick with it. Whatface, does the animation stop when the power button is pressed, or is it just covered up?
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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Whatface on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 20:05

KodokuRyuu wrote:I'm willing to use the power button when I want a performance increase. I say we stick with it. Whatface, does the animation stop when the power button is pressed, or is it just covered up?
It stops

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Ggultra2764 on Mon 20 Jul 2009 - 20:14

Flashiest banner I've seen on Cyborg Central since I've been here and it has given me no issues. I say let the banner stay and if anyone is having issues on their end with it, just block the banner if you have Firefox or use the power button Whatface provided.

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Post by Sakura on Tue 21 Jul 2009 - 0:14

No problems for me here. I like the power button effect.

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Post by Volcrim on Tue 21 Jul 2009 - 0:22

Its just too awesome to get rid of. Stay.
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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Tue 21 Jul 2009 - 2:34

OMG THERES A BUTTON!!!!!!!! HOLY AWESOME THAT IS SWEET WHATFACE!!!!

do you feel good about your awesome banner now...well you should...i want you to feel good about yourself and your creations because your creations are you nd your fate is what you create.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Guest on Tue 21 Jul 2009 - 6:34

...I strangely can't stop playing with the fart button now...

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by emperor on Tue 21 Jul 2009 - 6:55

I voted leave the flash.

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Re: Sorry Whatface, but...

Post by Tommygunner70 on Tue 21 Jul 2009 - 8:46

Leave the flash. Its awesome.

and for those low end users: see the red button on the left side of the picture?
Click that and it will close a shutter over the animation reducing CPU usage by 30%

Also the banner seems to remember that you closed the shutter for that session. so in theory, you should only have to close it the first time you visit the page.

Piero wrote:I think the flash banner needs to go. Every time I maximise a window with that in it my CPU usage jumps from nearly 0 to 30-50%. It's probably part of the reason my laptop has been overheating so frequently today.

Hmmm... overheating problems eh?
Have you brought you laptop to a repair shop for internal hardware upkeep lately? Because there are other factors that causes your machine to over heat.

Between the CPU and the Heatsink, there is some Thermal-paste, it is best to replace this paste on a yearly basis.

Because frankly every machine on this planet needs regular upkeep and maintenance, A computer is no exception be it software or hardware wise.

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