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Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 5 Aug 2009 - 16:41

Panzer IV wrote:Maybe next time Rafael will made an Anti-Armor SIMON for infantry units to crack open some tanks or APCs...

They do. It's called the MATADOR.

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Post by MikhailN on Wed 5 Aug 2009 - 17:15

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Panzer IV wrote:Maybe next time Rafael will made an Anti-Armor SIMON for infantry units to crack open some tanks or APCs...

They do. It's called the MATADOR.

OOO MATADOR FTW.The missile has a little knob that you can adjust so that it can switch from HEAT (High explosive Anti Tank) to HESH (High Explosive Squash Head) so it can be an anti tank weapon and a door/wall breacher

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Post by Alfisti on Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 3:01

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@Awinnell wrote:One of the worlds smallest guns the Kolibri 2.7mm pistol,the .45 is for scale



at the time the technology to rifle such a small barrel did not exist, so it was smoothbore,it was also so small that it was difficult to load and use,the bullet had a very low velocity of about 600fps,its max penetration was about 40mm of pine

I hate to say it but this looks like a pretty useless gun... unless you coat the bullet with curare or shoot it point-blank

So wait, thats the gun itself next to a .45 round? and... there is no visual trickery going on?

Holy shit....

1) my fingers would be to big to operate that thing.
2) I'm afraid that I'll brake that thing after one shit.


Kinda reminded of the old "Noisy Cricket" from MiB...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKKMtbLzFzI

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 8:06

Thats what I said. lol.

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Post by Guest on Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 9:39

Kiskaloo wrote:
Panzer IV wrote:Maybe next time Rafael will made an Anti-Armor SIMON for infantry units to crack open some tanks or APCs...

They do. It's called the MATADOR.

OOO
MATADOR FTW.The missile has a little knob that you can adjust so that
it can switch from HEAT (High explosive Anti Tank) to HESH (High
Explosive Squash Head) so it can be an anti tank weapon and a door/wall
breacher

Really? Wow...

now the question then seems to be its capability to penetrate modern tank armor. They should test that thing against an Abrams reactive armor or a Leopard II. Maybe a Challenger or Merkava just to assure its work-capability.

...if all else fails, maybe a T-90 will do. :p

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Post by MikhailN on Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 9:44

Panzer IV wrote:Really? Wow...

now the question then seems to be its capability to penetrate modern tank armor. They should test that thing against an Abrams reactive armor or a Leopard II. Maybe a Challenger or Merkava just to assure its work-capability.

...if all else fails, maybe a T-90 will do. :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MATADOR_(weapon) (Bah the wiki link doesn't seem to come out right)

No idea about its anti-tank capabilities. As far as I know the Singaporeans haven't used it in combat. At this point the only time it was deployed in Israel (Yes they made the SIMON system and they didn't use it Puzzled ) in Jan 2009 to breach walls and doors

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 6 Aug 2009 - 10:27

There is precious little that will go through an Abrams or Challenger II, and most of what will needs to come out of another tank's main gun.

I expect it's designed more for the older Soviet-era weaponry Israel's neighbors have, but it's primary purpose would be for use against "soft targets" like buildings and maybe vehicles since that is what the IDF is normally up against in their operations in the West Bank and Gaza.

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by Guest on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 4:14

Ok, believe it or not, the following weapons were designed to be functional. They are real, historic weapons. I'll start with the lesser-weird.


We're probably all familiar with the missile-launcher pistol... the Gyro Jet pistol.



There was a bayonet plug that was designed to spring out into a trident when pressure was felt, or by trigger by means of a button. This below is a "regular" trident dagger.



People have tried making bayonets/daggers with their handguns.





.... ... Fail. Even today.



Now we can see early attempts at the Swiss Army Knife. In case you are under attack while eating...



Would you like a cane, sheathed sword, AND a warhammer all-in-one?



This idea sadly didn't catch on. It was a pistol on the end of a shield.




And... to top it all of as the weirdest/bizzare of them all...



The shield-sword-gauntlet-sword catcher-lantern.

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Post by emperor on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 5:02



How much weight is this? Laughing

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Post by boomer_gonz on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 7:18

It slices, it dices, it even makes Julienne Fries in three different..woops.

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by SPARTAN 119 on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 11:32

A couple weird pistol-knife/pistol sword combinations.

First off, the Sierra Madre Pistol, a cross between a knife and a single shot .22 caliber pistol. These weapons are still in production today.




And, an incomplete WWII-era Japanese pistol-katana combining a Nambu 7.65mm pistol and a sword blade.

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 13:24

but theres...no .....trigger?

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 13:25

@tsundere9kagami2 wrote:but theres...no .....trigger?

Hence the word "incomplete"

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Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 13:34

the blade would pop right off! There would be no tang unless he forged the upper reciever of a nambu whilst he forged the blade.

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by Awinnell on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 13:53

the gun wouldn't cycle with the blade there

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by Awinnell on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 13:57




for when you really need a lot of holes drilled in your wall in a rush !

approx translation

80-year-old hameenlinnalaisininoori developed drilling machine, the machine became a weapon, which became a speed of 420 shots per minute. suitable balance 22 caliber cartridges.


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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by Guest on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 14:03

The winner is the shield-sword-gauntlet-sword catcher-lantern!

http://www.myarmoury.com/talk/viewtopic.php?t=15706

As for the weight, I don't know exactly, but my guess is about 40-55 pounds (20 to 25 kg). The shield really isn't that thick, it's made of fairly light material for the time. Honestly, it's the lantern that throws me off. The Spartan shield was close to 70 lbs (30 kg), but that's a full-body (thick) bronze shield.

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by Guest on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 14:39

@Awinnell wrote:

Impractical, but pure awesome. Just what the pirate needed on Deadliest Warrior.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 14:43

@Awinnell wrote:

Gives new meaning to the term "drill someone with lead". Razz


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Finally, a weapon optimized for use against zombies. Shoot them in the head, then lop it off.

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Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 17:46

youll be shooting them....until you drop your spanner key (what you wind it up with)

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Post by SPARTAN 119 on Fri 4 Sep 2009 - 23:53

More weird weapons for you guys.

The 2 bore rifle, firing a half pound slug


And the ammo.


But the 2 bore's nothing compared to the "Davy Crockett" Nuclear Recoilless Rifle


And some nuclear air-to-air missiles
The unguided AIR-2 Genie rocket


And the guided AIM-26 Falcon
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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by Nachtsider on Sat 5 Sep 2009 - 2:12

The blade of the Nambu pistol-sword doesn't sprout out through the top of the gun. It's fastened to the side of the gun, the root of the blade being near the upper part of the grip. No interference with cycling whatsoever.

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Post by Guest on Sat 5 Sep 2009 - 2:19

@Nachtsider wrote:The blade of the Nambu pistol-sword doesn't sprout out through the top of the gun. It's fastened to the side of the gun, the root of the blade being near the upper part of the grip. No interference with cycling whatsoever.

I figured that, but how well would such a weapon stand up to impact?

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Post by Nachtsider on Sat 5 Sep 2009 - 2:28

Oh, that's another story entirely. Those things were made very, VERY late in the war; I honestly don't think any of them saw combat use. Razz

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Post by Guest on Sat 5 Sep 2009 - 5:20

@Nachtsider wrote:Oh, that's another story entirely. Those things were made very, VERY late in the war; I honestly don't think any of them saw combat use. Razz

I can't imagine a gun without a trigger seeing any combat use. Razz

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Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Sat 5 Sep 2009 - 12:01

maybe it was just that sword gun that was missing its trigger...I mean you could probably get a new trigger from Wal-Mart.

look right there on the box Nanbu pistol trigger (for sword gun variants only)

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by Danjo3 on Sun 6 Sep 2009 - 11:19

Speaking of the "Davy Crockett", how’s about “Atomic Annie”




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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by Awinnell on Thu 10 Sep 2009 - 14:38



Bergmann 1896 5mm 8 shot box magazine




cochran turret pistol 8 shot .42

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Post by MikhailN on Sat 26 Sep 2009 - 7:57

Just saw this oddity

http://world.guns.ru/smg/smg25-e.htm

Yes the barrel is not aligned with the gun.

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Post by Nachtsider on Sat 26 Sep 2009 - 8:52

Ah, the TAO Jati-matic. First gun I ever fell in love with.

I blame Stallone wielding it in 'Cobra'.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 26 Sep 2009 - 10:25

@Nachtsider wrote:Ah, the TAO Jati-matic. First gun I ever fell in love with.

I blame Stallone wielding it in 'Cobra'.

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Post by Guest on Sat 26 Sep 2009 - 12:16

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Post by Awinnell on Sat 26 Sep 2009 - 13:44

no longer made due to poor sales

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Post by Piero on Sat 26 Sep 2009 - 14:20

@Awinnell wrote:

Bergmann 1896 5mm 8 shot box magazine

Is it just me, or does that thing have a really strong resemblance to the pistol wielded by Malcolm Reynolds in Firefly? (Even though that gun was a disguised Taurus revolver.)

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Post by funkmachine on Sat 26 Sep 2009 - 22:27

This is the realy odd one just odd
still its better than the whip pistol
then theres the phone gun if only it came in SP-4 silenced ammunition

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by Awinnell on Sun 27 Sep 2009 - 8:58



22mm rockets Luftfaust



donkeyfaust,was used in Italy



EMP-44





8mm experimental bullpup rifle, German, WWII

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Post by Alfisti on Sun 27 Sep 2009 - 9:20

@Piero wrote:
@Awinnell wrote:

Bergmann 1896 5mm 8 shot box magazine

Is it just me, or does that thing have a really strong resemblance to the pistol wielded by Malcolm Reynolds in Firefly? (Even though that gun was a disguised Taurus revolver.)


It does a little... if anything it does look like it loads the same way Mal loaded his.

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Post by rusty-spring on Sun 27 Sep 2009 - 16:23

Tanto pistol.

From the looks of it, might as well just have a regular tanto...



Someone's been playing too much FF.


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Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Wed 30 Sep 2009 - 23:19

The last image is a .22 LR revolver

They make a belt buckle that you can put it on as a concealed (or not so concealed) carry weapon if you live in a state wear concealed carry is legal.

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Post by Probit Return on Thu 1 Oct 2009 - 13:09

You know what, I just want Roberta's Shotgun Umbrella. That counts as unique/odd, doesn't it? "Why do I have an umbrella you ask? I have a feeling it's going to rain... bullets..."

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 1 Oct 2009 - 13:20

@Probit Return wrote:You know what, I just want Roberta's Shotgun Umbrella. That counts as unique/odd, doesn't it?

Well it's at least cool. Good

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Post by funkmachine on Thu 1 Oct 2009 - 19:51

THE Vespa 150 TAP
both weapon and scooter

its what happens when the french military get a new set of wheels

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Post by funkmachine on Thu 1 Oct 2009 - 20:43

some times guns are the key!


the lord can help you

its just a pair of zip guns in a cross shape

this next one is for Petrushka

now your suspenders are the guns

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Post by Nachtsider on Thu 1 Oct 2009 - 21:04

That's either a very big key or a very small gun.

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Post by boomer_gonz on Thu 1 Oct 2009 - 21:15

@funkmachine wrote:THE Vespa 150 TAP
both weapon and scooter

its what happens when the french military get a new set of wheels

Could that be considered the Italian kamikaze vehicle?

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Post by Nachtsider on Thu 1 Oct 2009 - 21:25

Imagine what the recoil would do if you fire the cannon while barreling along the road at full thottle.

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Post by funkmachine on Thu 1 Oct 2009 - 21:39

you get of as one one in there right mind shoots a 75mm when sat on top of it Guh?
th gun is only 22 but as it a 18th key its on the big side

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by Awinnell on Fri 2 Oct 2009 - 0:35

@Nachtsider wrote:Imagine what the recoil would do if you fire the cannon while barreling along the road at full thottle.


can anyone say recoiless gun ?

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Post by SPARTAN 119 on Fri 2 Oct 2009 - 11:08

A tribute to Awinnel's discovery of the ultimate poor man's anti-tank platform:
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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by MikhailN on Fri 2 Oct 2009 - 11:16

@Awinnell wrote:



8mm experimental bullpup rifle, German, WWII

Hey, looks like everyone was working on bullpup rifles during that time.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EM-2_rifle

Does this look familiar?

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by SPARTAN 119 on Mon 5 Oct 2009 - 21:24

@rusty-spring wrote:
My favorite of the bunch. Appears to be some bastard child AK/Famas thing carved from wood. For being a disfigured, ugly, crime against firearms it still strikes me as awesome.

You know the name of that thing by any chance?

Anyway, here's the Einstossflammenwerfer, a disposable one-shot flamethrower good for a half-second's worth of flame. Designed by the Germans in 1944.
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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by Nachtsider on Mon 5 Oct 2009 - 22:35

I doubt that thing has a name. Looks homemade.

And I remember that one-shot flamethrower. The Russkies thought it was shit.

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by funkmachine on Tue 6 Oct 2009 - 8:56

it was shit because it was a Volkssturm (National Militia) weapon built under the Primitiv-Waffen-Programm ("primitive weapons program")

it did have a SMG the Volksmaschinenpistole ("people's submachine gun")
that was based off the Sten gun(it self a named the "Plumber's Nightmare")


hell the weapons built in occupied Poland
The Błyskawica (Lightning) 700 built in occupied Poland

The K pattern flamethrower built in the hundreds (in one workshop of Antoni Więckowski in Warsaw alone, there were about 400 produced)

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by Guest on Tue 6 Oct 2009 - 10:58

I've always wondered about this one

wiki sez it's got a few adopters around the world

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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 6 Oct 2009 - 11:04

Kuransu wrote:I've always wondered about this one...

It was ranked #4 of the top ten Close Quarter Battle Weapons on The Military Channel show Ultimate Weapons.

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Re: Unique / Odd Weapons

Post by MikhailN on Tue 6 Oct 2009 - 11:08

Kuransu wrote:I've always wondered about this one

wiki sez it's got a few adopters around the world

That's CornerShot. A badass piece made by an equally badass Israeli, it allows the user to mount a weapon on it and shoot around corners. There's even a little screen to let the user aim the weapon

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CornerShot

Apparently there are versions that allow the M16 and even a 40mm grenade launcher to be mounted. Nothing to be sniffed at head bang

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Post by Nachtsider on Tue 6 Oct 2009 - 11:19

Fun fact: A Nerf gun (the Sneak Shot) featuring the CornerShot concept appeared almost a decade before the real CornerShot was invented.

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Post by MikhailN on Tue 6 Oct 2009 - 11:28

@Nachtsider wrote:Fun fact: A Nerf gun (the Sneak Shot) featuring the CornerShot concept appeared almost a decade before the real CornerShot was invented.

That one was an epic fail because it was an actual airsoft gun with a barrel that could go round corners and had a mirror that helped in aiming. When you force the air through a bent barrel, you can imagine that the projectile (or whatever you call it) comes out with less force, so the sharper the angle the less the projectile will fly. Also, the mirror was basically a mirror on a stick and fell off easily. The fact that it was discontinued speaks volumes

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