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Post by Guest on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 0:47

Oh why the change of storyline focus since volume 6



It's like the story being told in the perspective of the new pair



We need more Giusseppe and Henrietta :pale:



New things I noticed from Yuu Aida:



- Some have discussed this, the girls are growing; but why the
inconsistency... (if the legs are mechanical, are they supposed to
grow?)



- Artwork change; Giusseppe gets a new hairdo (and a typical bishounen
hair style to boot; as if he gets a vacation to Japan); Everybody has
sharper chins (which makes Henrietta a lot cuter Wink)



- Franca (Caterina) and Franco (and Cristiano) still missing. In volume
4 (or 5?) it says no body has came out from the lake; but there's still
possibility of them surviving (and possibly Franca in coma or died
there)



- And volume 6/7/8 all about Alessandro and Petra... has Yuu Aida got
sick of the main girls (i.e. Henrietta and Rico for starters)? Since I
was hooked by GSG when I read Rico's story in the 2nd chapter; and was
mesmerized by the mangaka's talent when I reached "The Death of Elsa de
Sica"



- Oh, and another thing... While other girls are growing, Henrietta still as chibi as ever :| though I don't know why Yuu Aida put "Fantasma" in vol 6... it's unclear in purpose

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 0:51

The jury is still out on whether or not the girls actually do grow.
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Post by rusty-spring on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 0:52

First off, welcome to the forum. Smile

Hmm...you asked a lot of questions and I'm not the foremost expert here so I can only give opinions.

Quite a few fans wish the focus would go back to the original 5 girls. Petra has gotten a lot of attention lately, but at least the other girls aren't completely out of the picture yet. (Plus, with season 2 of the anime, that should be nearly almost all the the original 5)

Yep, the girls' sizes fluctuate. I suppose the artists don't bother care too much about things like that.

I agree, Giuseppe's hair IS goofy.
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Post by LoC978 on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 1:02

soltairerev wrote:It's like the story being told in the perspective of the new pair
...
- And volume 6/7/8 all about Alessandro and Petra... has Yuu Aida got
sick of the main girls (i.e. Henrietta and Rico for starters)?
I still hold out hope that he's just introducing them, and will move to a broader perspective soon. *crosses his fingers*
soltairerev wrote:We need more Giusseppe and Henrietta
I need more Jean and Rico... and I wanna see what happens to Marco after *looks around for 3klicks* ...certain events... in volume nine.
soltairerev wrote:- Artwork change; Giusseppe gets a new hairdo (and a typical bishounen
hair style to boot; as if he gets a vacation to Japan)
nah... here's my theory on it, anyway:


'bout time he admitted that to himself.
soltairerev wrote:- Franca (Caterina) and Franco (and Cristiano) still missing. In volume
4 (or 5?) it says no body has came out from the lake; but there's still
possibility of them surviving (and possibly Franca in coma or died
there)
perhaps we're just supposed to think that they're dead, but they *gasp* return to haunt our heroes later on!
...christ, I hope not. that plotline is so cliche... I hope they're dead and he never mentions 'em again...

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 1:05

Jesus H. Christ in a frickin' go-kart... what the hell has Giuseppe done to his hair?
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Post by LoC978 on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 1:08

that's what we were all sayin when volume 8 came out:
http://www.fanfiction.net/topic/4167/1890508/1/
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3153146/22/The_Lighter_Side
...we still dont know for sure.

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 1:32

I haven't read past Volume Four, mind you.

And neither did I really keep up with the old forum. That damn thing was just too chaotic.
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Post by LoC978 on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 1:35

Nachtsider wrote:That damn thing was just too chaotic
that was one of my favorite things about it... it kinda fit my handle.

Nachtsider wrote:I haven't read past Volume Four, mind you.
...
http://gunslinger-girl.up-with.com/child-killers-f29/volume-5-english-scanlation-t143.htm
http://gunslinger-girl.up-with.com/child-killers-f29/volume-6-english-scanlation-t138.htm
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Post by Danjo3 on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 3:41

Say soltairerev, are you really from Sicily?

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Post by Guest on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 14:03

LoC978 wrote:I need more Jean and Rico... and I wanna see what happens to Marco
after *looks around for 3klicks* ...certain events... in volume nine.
Yeah, as I said in some other thread, I'm a "read the story right" fanatic, so I just skiped most of the posts and can't comment on much.

But, yeah. Welcome to the forum soltairrerev.

From the glimpse I got of the scan, I was sure that was some new character... but, it was Jose... That just looks weird. :|

The ammount of new characters introduced in vol. 6 is staggering, and the plot possibilities of the ones already in play haven't even been scratched. Yu could easily make many more interesting volumes using just the material he's got (The list of unanswered questions, and unresolved interactions between the characters is hudge).

Petra seems to have been introduced solely for the purpose of providing fan-service without stripping the original girls. It also looks like the 10 new cyborg girls (10!?) and host of other characters have been added as story relief, as if he was pressured to cranck out new volumes, and didn't know what to do.

The only legitimate reason I see for that much change so suddenly is if Yu wants to shift the message/theme of the series or if it's a plot device (say it turns into a new cyborgs vs. old), but from the few scraps of information that I have allowed myself to glean it doesn't seem so.

Needless to say, I share the sentiments of most of you here (if not everybody). Original was best.

I want to see more Rico, more Jean, and I want to know how it's going between Triela and Hillshire.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 14:41

Though I want more of the original girls, I can not help thinking that Yu Aida is being pressured into doing his changes to make some higher-ups happy. The story was fine to begin with and should have been left alone. Seems to me, Alessandro & Petrushka were put in as a last minute story line and it was some fanfict character of the son of some higher-up. The story line does not add up at all.

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Post by Wileama on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 19:30

You know despite what some people say, Inu Yasha was good. It got bad once it started to drag its feet. Stretching out a story is an easy way to keep something profitable. You stop focusing on telling the tell though, and think more about market value.

Which I think is sadly what has happened in some of the gunslinger girls we are seeing. It's not streching out, but rather, 'adjusting the story' to make it more marketable. Which hurts, because really it's gutting everything that made the story awesome. So really by trying to make it something it's not, your making it less marketable in my opinion.

I like to think that GSG will get back to it's roots in the later volumes. We'll have to wait, and see though. However all things must come to an end, and Petra may mark the beginning of that end.

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Post by Guest on Mon 19 Nov 2007 - 23:31

This thread is starting to sound a bit like an eulogy. Let's cheer up adn hope for the best. Here's a story:

I used to look at things primarily from the negative side. [hm, redundant] Anyway, I was a pessimist. That summer (last summer) I went for a kayaking trip in Lithuania with a buddy from middle school in Poland. The group we went with was mostly older peope, who upheld a sailors tradition that every time we would set up camp and start a fire they would bring out a bottle and a shot-cup would go in a circle. The idea was that the person who finishes a bottle has to buy the next one. Now, the youngest participant was a 13/14 year old girl. One time we were drinking liquor (sweet stuff) so she got in a shot or two, but it was also strong (%40). I happened to be sitting beside her and in my usuall way talked about what a fucked-up place Canada is (no offence, to any Canadians here). Once, she heard that she spent the whole rest of the time till the fire died (a good several hours) explaining to me how wonderful the world is in every conceivable way, and refuting whatever I said with blinding optimism alone. I was to drunck to notice just how cute that was, but, fuck, that's the only world view which is really worth anything.

[edit] Don't know where that came from... It's late. ... ... ....... Listening to the Cowboy Be-Bop OST now. :afro: It's great. :shock: We don't have a dancing smile in stock. Oh, the horror. Someone please fix this deficiency.


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Post by Sintendo on Tue 20 Nov 2007 - 0:35

I like Alessandro and Petrushka... :|
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Post by LoC978 on Tue 20 Nov 2007 - 0:59

3klicks wrote: :shock: We don't have a dancing smile in stock. Oh, the horror. Someone please fix this deficiency.
most dancing smilies suck... best one I found was:
dancin\\'
and then:
:disco: :dance:
additionally:
:lsduel: :abduction: viking :charge: :soapbox:
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bunker :french1: :french2:
(Henrietta, Giuseppe and Hillshire in this one) snipe gay :gay2:
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Post by Guest on Tue 20 Nov 2007 - 1:16

Sientendo wrote:I like Alessandro and Petrushka... :|
There is nothing wrong with Petrushka directly, it's just the way Yu introduces her and disrupts teh plot that makes her disliked.

But, Sandro I have serious beef with.

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:dance: dancin\\' These two are decent. There must be one resembling the dance from the original "Madness" game ... or was it "Madness Interactive", they made so many copies I don't know which one was the original anymore.

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Post by emperor on Tue 20 Nov 2007 - 1:24

You know despite what some people say, Inu Yasha was good. It got bad once it started to drag its feet. Stretching out a story is an easy way to keep something profitable. You stop focusing on telling the tell though, and think more about market value.

Which I think is sadly what has happened in some of the gunslinger girls we are seeing. It's not streching out, but rather, 'adjusting the story' to make it more marketable. Which hurts, because really it's gutting everything that made the story awesome. So really by trying to make it something it's not, your making it less marketable in my opinion.

I could think Yu had testing something,may be a feedback? with adding Petra+Sandro.

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Post by Totoum on Tue 20 Nov 2007 - 10:32

First,hi to everybody,i've been lurking here (and back on ff.net of course) for over a year,so i know you guys even if you don't know me Very Happy , especialy LoC who's been kind enough to comment on nearly all my amvs.
I promised myself i'd start posting after i read vol8 and i got it today

Yes vol6 was quite fustrating to me but that went away with vol7,mainly because there was a good amount of triela and claes,and i preffer that pairing over rico/henrietta anyway.

But then vol 8 had no triela or claes,just a cameo appearance by rico,henrietta and angelica and hey it didn't even gave lots of petra,it was all about sandro and Rossana...........and i liked it!
Rossana was just great and though i didn't like sandro before he really grew on me in this volume.

In fact it's similar to the experience i had with pino,to me it really seemed like he came out of nowhere in vol3,i was going "WTF is this??!!" when reading it the first time but by vol5 he had grown on me.

Finally,is it just me or is there more humour in the later volumes?i've gotten a few good laughs while reading vol 7 and 8,i definatly don't remember laughing while reading vol 1 and 2.


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Post by LoC978 on Tue 20 Nov 2007 - 11:59

Welcome aboard, Totoum. Glad you decided to start posting here... I am now very jealous of you, though. The furthest I've gotten is trying to piece together bits of vol.7 from this and this

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Post by Guest on Tue 20 Nov 2007 - 12:10

Hi, Totoum

Totoum wrote:In fact it's similar to the experience i had with pino,to me it really
seemed like he came out of nowhere in vol3,i was going "WTF is
this??!!" when reading it the first time but by vol5 he had grown on me.
You've got a point there. I was ok. with Pino by the end, but Pino was just one strange character, and he tied in well with the plot. It set up a major exposition of Hillshire and Triela's character as well as developing their relationship. But, from what I'm hearing and seeingf we're talking about dozens of them now.

Pino complemented the other parts of the story, while it seems (I wouldn't know I'm waiting for the scanlations) so far that the story's going on a bit of a tangent now. Well, I'll have to wait till I've read it to really say anything.

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Post by LoC978 on Tue 20 Nov 2007 - 12:28

3klicks wrote:But, from what I'm hearing and seeingf we're talking about dozens of them now.
sort of... there were 11 stage one cyborgs:

(this was said after Elsa's death, during section one's investigation)
...although we've only been introduced to 7 of 'em (Ange, Triela, Rico, 'Etta, Claes, Beatrice, and Elsa)
and they have plans to make 10 stage two cyborgs:
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Post by Totoum on Tue 20 Nov 2007 - 12:51

3klicks wrote:But, from what I'm hearing and seeingf we're talking about dozens of them now.

Pino complemented the other parts of the story, while it seems (I wouldn't know I'm waiting for the scanlations) so far that the story's going on a bit of a tangent now. Well, I'll have to wait till I've read it to really say anything.

As LoC as said there's plans to make 10 new ones,but after volume 8,Petra is the only new one we've met,though if i remember correctly,2 unknown girls made a cameo appearance (like in only one frame) in the latest chapters that will make up number 9.

To me Petra in volume 7 helped in continuing the developement of triela/hillshire but also helped develop Claes (my favorite character) quite a bit,I guess that's why they're on the cover lol.

Vol 8 though is mainly like one big flashback so hardly anything happens in the present.

What can i do to help LoC?One of my motivations for joining instead of just lurking was to help.
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Post by Guest on Tue 20 Nov 2007 - 12:52

[edit] Totoum, I posted at the same time. I didn't really read your post (I'm trying to keep myself in the dark as to the events in volumes I haven't read), but there are also the additional people. Do they get "screen time" or are they just one shot stock characters? (they don't lookl like it)

LoC's post
And, that's just the cyborgs. There are all the aditional medical staff, the administration people, the strange identical twins, and so on.

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Post by LoC978 on Tue 20 Nov 2007 - 13:02

3klicks wrote:And, that's just the cyborgs. There are all the aditional medical staff, the administration people, the strange identical twins, and so on.
ah. I see now. Thought you just meant cyborgs. My bad.
Totoum wrote:What can i do to help LoC?One of my motivations for joining instead of just lurking was to help.
page-by-page english translations of volume 7 would be a huge help... I'd be willing to photoshop it into a scanlation.
...I understand that's veeery time consuming, though... no need, unless you really want to.
*ahem* forgot to specify: even a literal translation from the French version would be fine. I'm willing to clean it up (sometimes I think I was born to be a literary editor...)
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Post by Sintendo on Tue 20 Nov 2007 - 20:42

LoC978 wrote:
3klicks wrote:And, that's just the cyborgs. There are all the aditional medical staff, the administration people, the strange identical twins, and so on.
ah. I see now. Thought you just meant cyborgs. My bad.
Totoum wrote:What can i do to help LoC?One of my motivations for joining instead of just lurking was to help.
page-by-page english translations of volume 7 would be a huge help... I'd be willing to photoshop it into a scanlation.
...I understand that's veeery time consuming, though... no need, unless you really want to.
*ahem* forgot to specify: even a literal translation from the French version would be fine. I'm willing to clean it up (sometimes I think I was born to be a literary editor...)

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Post by Totoum on Wed 21 Nov 2007 - 9:02

LoC978 wrote:page-by-page english translations of volume 7 would be a huge help... I'd be willing to photoshop it into a scanlation.
...I understand that's veeery time consuming, though... no need, unless you really want to.
*ahem* forgot to specify: even a literal translation from the French version would be fine. I'm willing to clean it up (sometimes I think I was born to be a literary editor...)

ok,here comes my series of dumb question:
-from what i see,only part of chapter 36 and 37 have been translated:do i finish those first or start from the start of the book?
-where do i post the translations?
-while we're at it,do you also want scans from vol8?
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Post by LoC978 on Wed 21 Nov 2007 - 10:36

Totoum wrote:ok,here comes my series of dumb question:
-from what i see,only part of chapter 36 and 37 have been translated:do i finish those first or start from the start of the book?
-where do i post the translations?
-while we're at it,do you also want scans from vol8?
-from the beginning would be great, that way I can release chapters chronologically.
-I'll make a thread for it... here
-translations of volume 8 would be great, but it would be best to finish volume 7 first.
-thank you for the help. waiting on ADV manga is frustrating (I don't even have an official copy of volume six yet. It's supposed to ship today)

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Post by Totoum on Wed 21 Nov 2007 - 13:29

ok LoC,i'll try and do it as soon as i can.
Yeah,i know how AVD was stuck at 3 books for a while,but now they've been releasing them at regular intervals no?
I'm already looking forward to febuary 28th,that's when vol9 comes out in france.

And well, 3klicks,i guess you'll have to judge for yourself when the books come out.
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Post by LoC978 on Wed 21 Nov 2007 - 13:42

Totoum wrote:but now they've been releasing them at regular intervals no?
up to volume 6, yeah... sort of regular. but...


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Post by ElfenMagix on Wed 21 Nov 2007 - 15:34

Any help to the translations would be great, gives me something to look foward in getting the actual dead-tree versions.

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Post by Guest on Wed 21 Nov 2007 - 16:56

Totoum wrote:ok LoC,i'll try and do it as soon as i can.
If you could do that it will be great. 👍

p.s. - If you do, keep a tap on other scanlators like "toubuki". It would be discouraging to translate half and then have them release it before you.

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Post by Totoum on Wed 21 Nov 2007 - 19:30

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Totoum wrote:ok LoC,i'll try and do it as soon as i can.
If you could do that it will be great. 👍

p.s. - If you do, keep a tap on other scanlators like "toubuki". It would be discouraging to translate half and then have them release it before you.

http://www.toukoubi.com/

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Totoum wrote:ok LoC,i'll try and do it as soon as i can.
If you could do that it will be great.

p.s. - If you do, keep a tap on other scanlators like "toubuki". It would be discouraging to translate half and then have them release it before you.

http://www.toukoubi.com/

that will keep me motivated,though the scanlation will be done by LoC.
I was gonna start this weekend,but i might end up starting sooner,i've read that whole "rogue cyborg" thread,and i was gonna post my thoughts on claes but then realised it'd come to the same thing as translating chapter 33-35 lol,and i'm a huge Claes fanboy
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Post by Triela on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 0:44

Sorry for resuracting a kinda olf topic but I just had to post here.

I miss the old art of Yu Aida and the focus of the story. I'm only up to volume 6, since I'm waiting for them to be translated here, I see and hear many things here and there about the other girls not being in it as much and Petushka taking all the spot light along with her handler. Personally I hate it. I think the story would have been awesome if they didn't have her, or not put that much emphisis on her. It was like Petushka was thrown in there with no thought about the other girls and they were just thrown aside, like we should just acsept that Petrushka was the main character after we've all grown to know and love these other little girls.

What really ticked me off was that Petrushka isn't even a little girl. She's 18... 18! That throws the story out of wack. It's supposed to be little girls with guns, not teens with guns that now can be used for fan-service. >_< It angers me to no end! I hope that once I get pasted volumes 7 and 8 the story will go back to hte way it was before.

And after I saw that scan with Jose's hair I compleatly lost it. Yu Aida is making some awful desicions...
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Post by Danjo3 on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 2:25

Triela wrote:What really ticked me off was that Petrushka isn't even a little girl. She's 18... 18! That throws the story out of wack. It's supposed to be little girls with guns, not teens with guns that now can be used for fan-service. >_< It angers me to no end! I hope that once I get pasted volumes 7 and 8 the story will go back to hte way it was before.
I hear ya Triela, alot of people feel the same way. With 8 original girl's, Yu had more then enough to work with. IMO, the gen2's are overkill. We've already seen a pic of 4 of them, and there's more to come. With that many girls, people will be waiting years for stories about their favorites (unless of course your favorite happens to be Petra). In vol.7, Yu was generous enough to let Triela share a story with Petra, but in vol.8, everyone gets screwed. From what little I've gathered, Triela get's a story in 9, but that's all I know about that vol. I also agree with you concerning Petra's age, she is too old. She's also boring. The only unique things about her are her age and the fact that she's eye candy.

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Post by LoC978 on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 2:38

welcome aboard... Triela. :suspect:
Triela wrote:I miss the old art of Yu Aida and the focus of the story. I'm only up to volume 6, since I'm waiting for them to be translated here, I see and hear many things here and there about the other girls not being in it as much and Petushka taking all the spot light along with her handler. Personally I hate it.
A-men.
Triela wrote:She's 18... 18! That throws the story out of wack. It's supposed to be little girls with guns, not teens with guns that now can be used for fan-service. >_<
agreed, however... she's 16. But that's just a matter of degree or semantics, I suppose... the sentiment remains.

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Post by boomer_gonz on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 4:42

LoC978 wrote:that's what we were all sayin when volume 8 came out:
http://www.fanfiction.net/topic/4167/1890508/1/
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3153146/22/The_Lighter_Side
...we still dont know for sure.

Yeah, that topic went downhill quick, fast, and in a hurry. Guess I'm kinda late though.
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Post by Totoum on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 8:06

Triela wrote:Sorry for resuracting a kinda olf topic but I just had to post here.

I miss the old art of Yu Aida and the focus of the story. I'm only up to volume 6, since I'm waiting for them to be translated here, I see and hear many things here and there about the other girls not being in it as much and Petushka taking all the spot light along with her handler.

And I STILL say that there's plenty of claes and triela to go around in vol7,the claes fanboy that i am loves vol7 because of that.

vol8 is all sandro,doesn't mean it's bad though,this is coming from someone who's least favorite book in the series is number 6.

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 8:50

Triela wrote:That throws the story out of wack. It's supposed to be little girls with guns, not teens with guns that now can be used for fan-service. >_<


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Post by Totoum on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 9:28

Triela wrote:That throws the story out of wack. It's supposed to be little girls with guns, not teens with guns that now can be used for fan-service. >_<


Missed that

Well there's the word "Adolescent" in the tagline,that's a teen as far as i'm concerned.

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Post by Sintendo on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 10:24

It seems to me that Yu is writing the story as he goes along. There might be a turnaround in the future (something bad happens with the Gen 2's, maybe?)
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Post by Guest on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 11:24

My flight got cancelled due to snow-storm. God damn Canadain weather. NO

Triela's post.
*Deep sigh* Tis' all true. Just about everyone agrees.

Totoum wrote:
Missed that

Well there's the word "Adolescent" in the tagline,that's a teen as far as i'm concerned.

Though you've got a point about the fanservice.
Not really true. In your average anime most of the main characters are usually very young. 16 is proubably the most common age, so, by anime, standards she is as average as they come. The problem is not whether hte tag line is correct, but whether she fits into the convention of the series and as far as I can see she doesn't. In several discussions that we've been having we outlined the use or young girls (and I mean young even by anime standards) combined with a serious treatment of the show (no emphesis on fanservice, considerable realism, and the girls being portrayed as girls and not as miniature versions of adult women.).

Oh, and yeah she's "fanservice girl".

Totoum wrote:vol8 is all sandro,doesn't mean it's bad though,this is coming from someone who's least favorite book in the series is number 6.
Being a devoted Rico/Jean fan I enjoyed the beggining...(It also cast light on a few things.)

Sintendo wrote:It seems to me that Yu is writing the story as he goes along. There
might be a turnaround in the future (something bad happens with the Gen
2's, maybe?)
This is exactly what the problem is. I think that if Yu was not pressed for time and getting good ratings he would not have come up with the whole 2nd gen thing. Now, I doubt he'll just get rid of them.


[edit] I just went back and took another look at Jose in the later volumes....:WTFWTF:

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Post by Sintendo on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 12:51

I never said it was a problem though. There are anime/manga out there that have been written as the show progressed and have been put into the "Classic" category. Neon Genesis Evangelion, Haibane Renmei, The anime version of Full Metal Alchemist... while some may disagree with how they are labled, no anime or manga fan should miss these shows.

I just hope Yu is going somewhere with this and it's just a Petra/Sandro story arc, much like Pinocchio's arc.
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Post by Guest on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 13:03

I didn't mean that it's all that bad (I actually thought that most anime are written in that way), but I like to believe that Yu would have acted differently if he had more time to think and didn't have to consider ratings/deadlines.

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Post by Triela on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 13:22

Wooooah! Lot's of posts! :faint:

I'm happy I'm not the only person who feels this way. I hope you're right, Sintendo, and it's just a story ark... but Yu Aida has give too much time to them and it's like he's forceing Pertushka onto us. I think they're here to stay... Sad bang head

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Post by Sintendo on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 16:33

Then again, maybe Yu was planning this all along. In the beginning, I thought Henrietta/Jose were the main characters, but I don't think Yu was going for that route. Instead, maybe he wanted something where not one character was THE main character in particular, but more like... well, Band Of Brothers where it wasn't a person that was the main focus of the story, but a group of people.

Then all of a sudden, he was cornered because it was difficult coming up with an ending and then made up Petra and Sandro to get out of his slump...

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 21:59

Taking the Band of Brothers route is the best option possible when you're writing a story about a team of killer cyber-tots who all have differing backstories and complex personality traits.

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Post by Sintendo on Sun 16 Dec 2007 - 22:36

Nachtsider wrote:Can't wait for The Pacific to hit my small screen.

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Post by boomer_gonz on Mon 17 Dec 2007 - 3:43

The Pacific :?:

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Post by Sintendo on Mon 17 Dec 2007 - 4:00

boomer_gonz wrote:The Pacific :?:

The Pacific
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Post by boomer_gonz on Mon 17 Dec 2007 - 4:10

Ah, I see.

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