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Post by ElfenMagix on Sun 25 Nov 2007 - 21:15

@Totoum wrote:
So back off topic:Wasn't henrietta already raped (and beaten,tortured...) anyway?Isn't that what got her in the agency?

As for Henrietta, yes. As was Triela. Sad
Rico and Angie seems to be the virgins. Very Happy

Claes how ever, scares me. In voume 4 of the manga, she is taking Estrogene? (according to the translated stuff I got of the net) Estrogene is a female hormone which is mainly used for birth control. Makes me wonder what they are doing with her?

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Post by Guest on Sun 25 Nov 2007 - 21:41

@ElfenMagix wrote:Claes how ever, scares me. In voume 4 of the manga, she is taking
Estrogene? (according to the translated stuff I got of the net)
Estrogene is a female hormone which is mainly used for birth control.
Makes me wonder what they are doing with her?
Yeah, I've been wondering about that. I have no idea how it works, but I think you have to combine it with something else:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_oral_contraceptive_pill
But, its still very weird, and somewhat unsettling.

But, I think all the girls are taking it.


Now, the question is why. The circumstances seem strange. Bianchi suggests increasing her dose in the presence of two circumstances (as far as I see):
- Her "cheerfulness"
- Her insatiable (not sure what word to use) desire for Jose

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sun 25 Nov 2007 - 22:06

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@ElfenMagix wrote:Claes how ever, scares me. In voume 4 of the manga, she is taking
Estrogene? (according to the translated stuff I got of the net)
Estrogene is a female hormone which is mainly used for birth control.
Makes me wonder what they are doing with her?
Yeah, I've been wondering about that. I have no idea how it works, but I think you have to combine it with something else:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Combined_oral_contraceptive_pill
But, its still very weird, and somewhat unsettling.

But, I think all the girls are taking it.


Now, the question is why. The circumstances seem strange. Bianchi suggests increasing her dose in the presence of two circumstances (as far as I see):
- Her "cheerfulness"
- Her insatiable (not sure what word to use) desire for Jose

Actually, Henrietta's uterus and maybe her ovaries are missing. She would require estrogene for those reasons. She would still have a vagina. The arguement in the old forum on this was- OH BOY!

Nearly all my girlfriends and a couple of family members had taken 'The Pill'. This is more than 35+ years of seeing, reading up, and going through this (birth control is not a 1 person thing). The doseage is 1 pill of Estrogene (pink pills) a day for 27 days, and 1 pill of Proestrogene (blue or white; depending on the formulation) for 3 days. then its back to the pink pills. The dosage varies slightly from girl to girl, but this is the standard recipie.

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Post by Totoum on Sun 25 Nov 2007 - 22:36

@ElfenMagix wrote:Actually, Henrietta's uterus and maybe her ovaries
are missing. She would require estrogene for those reasons. She would
still have a vagina. The arguement in the old forum on this was- OH
BOY!

Yeah,she can't be getting it for birth control since she can't give
birth,estrogen has other roles though it contributes to breast growth
for exemple.
Maybe the girls don't produce it naturally so they need to take pills.
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Post by Sintendo on Sun 25 Nov 2007 - 23:47

Estrogen is a sort of regulator for women (on the flipside, Testosterone is a regulator for men).

Basically it's what makes girls girly.

Edit:
Also, women produce testosterone naturally (as do men make estrogen naturally).

More estrogen = Womanly emotions, behaviors, featurwes (such as bigger breasts), etc.

More Testosteron = Manly emotions, behaviors, features (such as more body hair, broader shoulders), etc.

Using evidence from Henrietta, and the (maybe) fact that Claes is also taking doses of estrogen, Claes' Sex organs must have been removed too.

No ovaries = No estrogen = Claes with a beard...?
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Post by Wileama on Sun 25 Nov 2007 - 23:54

I always thought that Claes was eating only yogurt, because she had to take those pills. Do you have to do that for estrogen? I don't think so, other wise why would the other girls comment about it. I always thought it had something to do with an experiment she was part of.

As for Henrietta. I'm with one of these less, sexual explanations.

On topic: I think it's not unreasonable to release the sound track. I always understood the Japanese to be big on OST struff. This is just a way of generating hype, and marketing for the up coming season.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sun 25 Nov 2007 - 23:59

@Totoum wrote:
@ElfenMagix wrote:Actually, Henrietta's uterus and maybe her ovaries
are missing. She would require estrogene for those reasons. She would
still have a vagina. The arguement in the old forum on this was- OH
BOY!

Yeah,she can't be getting it for birth control since she can't give
birth,estrogen has other roles though it contributes to breast growth
for exemple.
Maybe the girls don't produce it naturally so they need to take pills.

Triela has a Uterus.

I have always had a mental theory that the type 1 cyborgs- the short hairded ones had their uteruses and other parts removed, the long haired ones still have those parts.

Estrogene in girls does other things besides make them girly. Its for bone density / development, muscle density, it regulates the other hormones, cancels out the testoserone created by the adrenal glands (which is why some girls grow male characteristics like mustaches and beards). It is a powerful hormone responsible for many things.

As for a girl's sex drive- thats determined by the testoserone created by theh adrenal glands. Giving Henrietta more Estrogene maybe a way to cancel testoserone, which would be created by an over active ardenal gland, which is a by product of producing adrenaline, which she needs for her mission runs. In thinking about it, Henrietta's been a busy little killer cyborg-tot! :twisted:

That would kill some of the affection she has for Jose though Evil

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Post by Sintendo on Mon 26 Nov 2007 - 0:08

I said "basically"... :|
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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 26 Nov 2007 - 0:11

I'm not pointing out deficencies here, Sintendo.
If we are going to analyze the girls, we need to know what makes them tick and leave nothing out. But Like I said in chapter 33 (or 34) of my fanfic- 'there is Anal in Analyze.' Very Happy

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Post by Guest on Mon 26 Nov 2007 - 0:15

Yeah, the regulating influance it has on the psyhology seems like the best explanation under the sircumstances. Henrietta is real prone to violent emotions so it may be of help and
@ElfenMagix wrote:That would kill some of the affection she has for Jose though Evil
This is a solution to the 'problem' she's having. So it seems logical on Bianchi's part.

It may also have some connection with the conditioning drug. The girls are required to use a heck of a lot of aggressive behaviour, you have to cancel that out somehow. (althoug, this is just a way of restating the above in a different way)


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Post by Sintendo on Mon 26 Nov 2007 - 0:15

@Wileama wrote:I always thought that Claes was eating only yogurt, because she had to take those pills. Do you have to do that for estrogen? I don't think so, other wise why would the other girls comment about it. I always thought it had something to do with an experiment she was part of.

Well there is this

But Yogurt, in general, is good for helping with digestion... estrogen helps regulate digestion in women as well...

Maybe Claes has a naturally upset stomach? Probably a side effect of the massives doses of the conditoning drug?
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Post by Sintendo on Mon 26 Nov 2007 - 0:20

Fixed... I think...


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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 26 Nov 2007 - 0:28

It looks fixed...
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Post by Guest on Mon 26 Nov 2007 - 0:33

Not sure how this happened but this post was supposed to go to a different thread.

Anyway, No bold. Harrah!


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Post by Sintendo on Mon 26 Nov 2007 - 0:33

Cool... thought I did mess up the "Condiotioning" topic for a while... gland nobody caught it...

@ElfenMagix wrote:I'm not pointing out deficencies here, Sintendo.
If we are going to analyze the girls, we need to know what makes them tick and leave nothing out. But Like I said in chapter 33 (or 34) of my fanfic- 'there is Anal in Analyze.' Very Happy

Oh, I know. I'd say something witty here, but I can't get that awesome quote out of my head... lol.
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Post by Sintendo on Mon 26 Nov 2007 - 0:36

3klicks wrote:Not sure how this happened but this post was supposed to go to a different thread.

Anyway, No bold. Harrah!

I accidentally merged this topic with the conditioning topic, lol.
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Post by Danjo3 on Mon 26 Nov 2007 - 5:08

@Wileama wrote:I always thought that Claes was eating only yogurt, because she had to take those pills. Do you have to do that for estrogen? I don't think so, other wise why would the other girls comment about it. I always thought it had something to do with an experiment she was part of.
Iím with you on this Wileama. I always assumed that Claesí diet and drug taking was part of that Doctors All-Mediterranean meet -whatever the hell that is.

Edit: Iím assuming itís some kind of European medical conference concerning cybernetics.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Tue 27 Nov 2007 - 21:59

I'll chuck it up to Claes going through some female problem, which is why she is eating the yougurt for this moment in time. Considering that she cooks sometimes for the other cyborgs, its strange that she would just go for yougurt.

Another thing- if she was sick and underwent an antibotic regiment, the best way to get one's stomache in order again is to eat yougurt.

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