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Lord of the Flies: GSG

Post by Five_X on Wed 16 Dec 2009 - 19:56

Pretty much what it sounds like. An alternate version of William Golding's Lord of the Flies, with characters from Gunslinger Girl. I have an idea of who most of the girls will generally be, with a few discrepancies:

Triela == Ralph

Claes == Piggy

Rico == Simon

Henrietta and Beatrice/Angelica == Sam n Eric

Petra == Jack

Random Gen 2's == Choir Boys

Random young Gen 1's == Littluns


So yeah, the characters are pretty much down pat. I still, however, have to figure out who should be Roger. I imagine the gen 2's would follow Petra out of a sense of superiority to the younger girl, I guess. Triela, being the most charismatic (and most independent) of the gen 1's would make sense as a leader.

The basic idea is that, sometime between volume 8 and 9, the girls are sent on a hypothetical mission, their first one outside of Italy. They are going, via plane, to Australia, but crash on a deserted island. Their handlers were not onboard, and due to their cyborg-ness, they were the only survivors of the crash. Regular humans, opf course, tend to be rather squishy and go splat easily at high velocity impacts.

So yeah. Discuss. Determine which GSG should be Roger. State your opinion, even.

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Re: Lord of the Flies: GSG

Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 1:34

Without their handlers, they would panic. Without their conditioning drug, they would break down in days. They would all die within days, not months like the book.

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Post by Five_X on Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 1:35

That kind of hole can be ripped into the lore. It's a hypothetical situation.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 1:55

If you are going to use the GsG girls. then you are going to use all their features, abilities, idiosyncrasies, and disabilities. The girls are too dependent on their handlers, and too dependent on their conditioning drug. As with Angie in V5, she shut down when her drug level dropped to near zero, breaking Priscilla's arm in the process of wanting access to it. Triela became nearly dysfunctional when her drug level was dropping in V8(9?).

Being a cyborg in the GsG world is not total functionality with well primed systems coupled with super strength and super speed. There are limits to what they can do and operations on their capabilities. Applying it to LotF will only give you a bunch of dead cyborgs within less than a week's time. They are not are and can not be the characters of LotF.

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Re: Lord of the Flies: GSG

Post by Professor Voodoo on Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 2:00

Suggestion that might make both viewpoints happy:

Make it a "daydream" episode. Open with one of the girls being assigned to write an essay on Golding's novel. Struggling to decide what to write she imagines the scenario you propose, Five X. You can now mix canon elements & the novel all you want.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 2:06

VooDoo- that would be difficult in view that the cyborgs knows of their limitations. Therefore such a daydream would be a daymare as they reach the point where they would be in need of their meds.

Rico's Dream in V5 where she is without arms or legs. Henrietta upsetting Jose in V1. Triela in V8(9?). Angie almost all over the place when she was alive. Claes in her memories and dreams affecting her day-to-day consciousness...

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Re: Lord of the Flies: GSG

Post by Five_X on Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 2:26

@ Elfen: "It's just a show, I should really just relax."

Liberties can be taken where they are necessary. What you are doing is not being "logical", it is being a lore fanboy. Really, you're stressing sticking to the lore some much so that it is leading to you just sounding like a snob. Please, stop it before more idiotic conflict erupts.

And as I said, this is hypothetical. If you don't think it would work, ignore it. Perhaps read it if/when it comes out.

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Re: Lord of the Flies: GSG

Post by hydra282 on Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 15:20

How about some conditioning gets on the island too, then once it starts to run out someone (like Triela) will let the youngers have it, while she lets herself go through the hurt. : )
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Re: Lord of the Flies: GSG

Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 17:42

@ 5X: Fanfiction must portray the characters of the canon realm as much as they are, even as a cross reference material. One can not just pull things out of their asses to satisfy the story. Then there will be no story, just a 1/2 baked wachamacallit suited to promote one writer's ego.

Anyways, Lets see how it goes.

@hydra282 wrote:How about some conditioning gets on the island too, then once it starts to run out someone (like Triela) will let the youngers have it, while she lets herself go through the hurt. : )
Ever seen that ST:DS9 Episode where Cisco and Dr. Bashir crash onto a planet of J'em Hadars who were running out "The White", though 1 of them did not needed it, forcing Dr. Bashir to create (if possible) "The White" for them? Remember how that concluded? They all died, except for the one that did not need the use of "The White," with Bashir and Cisco managing to fix their ship and escape the fight that ensued that killed them all.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 17:51

@ElfenMagix wrote:@ 5X: Fanfiction must portray the characters of the canon realm as much as they are, even as a cross reference material. One can not just pull things out of their asses to satisfy the story.


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Re: Lord of the Flies: GSG

Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 18:01

*sigh* Simple; If you are taking characters from one story, putting them into another, without the very essence of what makes them who they are, then they are no longer the characters they were from where you pulled them out. They make look like, act like and have the same names but they are not the canon characters you make them out to be.

Such stories I find to be written to satify a writer's ego who goes about saying, "Lookie at what I wrote!!! Dont You Like?!! PRAISE ME! I WANT ATTENTION!!!" As such, those are the stories that I dont like.

Now with that said, I stated my reasons why LotF would not work, backing them with citations from the Manga. Now if 5X can make it work, I would like to see it and see how he has done it without pulling anything out of his rear end to satisfy a story ending where everybody lives happily ever after. After all, this is not some sort of Porn film script, where after a while of dialog, no matter of what the situation is, everyone takes off their clothes and have sex.

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Re: Lord of the Flies: GSG

Post by Five_X on Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 22:36

@ElfenMagix wrote:After all, this is not some sort of Porn film script, where after a while of dialog, no matter of what the situation is, everyone takes off their clothes and have sex.

Or is it!?!?!?

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Re: Lord of the Flies: GSG

Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 17 Dec 2009 - 23:26

Now that would be pulling something out of somebody's rear! Laughing

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