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Post by ElfenMagix on Fri 30 Nov 2007 - 19:25

I was thinking, I am pretty good with searching for various patterns, so Why not look for the SWA Compound, if it exists? Yu Aida's Rome is a fictional place, but he does try to make it as real as possible. Thats the beauty of his work...

Yu Aida hints that the compound is near the Vatican City.
So I started googling around in the maps, and found... Not too far from the Vatican... is in its a respectable walking distance from the West heading East.




Mind you, it was not scarey enough, until you zoomin and get details...
WOW! (and thats not at full zoom!) Look at that! A Walled Compound, with 2 areas (in small pict) that can be used as a shooting range, and far away from the normal population as to not even care!



HEY! ISN'T THAT CLAES' GARDEN BY THE CYBORG DORMITORY?!!


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Post by LoC978 on Fri 30 Nov 2007 - 19:33

It does look strikingly similar. All this time I'd been assuming their compound was a little bit outside the urban sprawl of Rome. but maybe that's just the outdoor range complex I was thinking of...

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Post by LoC978 on Fri 30 Nov 2007 - 19:45

copying from here, in order to consolidate:
I wrote:
ElfenMagix wrote:I'm going with the possibility that the girls can go outside the compound unescorted for minor tasks: buying snack foods for themelves, library, buying soap and personal items, etc...
I've always assumed the opposite... all their needs seem to be taken care of on the SWA grounds. Soap and other such toiletry items are supplied to any government installation, food is all at the cafeteria (I suppose their handlers would have to provide any snack food other than what they can make off with from there), and the closest thing to a library they seem to have access to is Raballo's old room.
ElfenMagix wrote:Adding on top of that, the girls in the intro of the anime are shown at the Piazza di Spagna, with no handlers around. Maybe they are allowed some freedom?
looked like a classically tourist-y group photo. It was probably either Giuseppe or Hillshire holding the camera.
ElfenMagix wrote:Being kooked up in the dormitory all day would leave a cyborg a bit crazy. I can see Henrietta putting a swing in her room, singing while she swings on it, "I know why the caged bird sings" all day long...
conditioning could take care of that. and they're not cooped up in the dorm, they're cooped up in the compound (which I've been trying to map out):
ElfenMagix wrote:Going by the anime; I think the biggest hint would be here.
If the Cyborgs and Handlers live in the same builing or a 2 buildings that are connected together (those who live on the compound like Rabello did), this connecting hallway maybe a clue. I've noticed it on nearly all the animes showing the dormintory hallway.



...I'd always assumed that none of the the handlers lived on the compound, and that the rooms they kept there are just in case they need to stay the night or desire the comforts of home for a moment.
-Just a semantic point, really. Regardless of where they live, each of them keeps a room in the compound.

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by ElfenMagix on Fri 30 Nov 2007 - 21:47

A loaf of bread, a jug of wine, a room, and a cyborg or two.
What more can one ask? :drunken:
A Paycheck To Go With It!!!

In my mind, in piecing together the anime, thats how it would look to me.

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Post by sasahara17 on Fri 30 Nov 2007 - 21:53

Cool project..

Either way, you guys have my support! Nice job and I hope to see more of your completed projects. Now can someone locate Franca's vinyard or something? That'll be one hell of a challenge.

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 30 Nov 2007 - 23:11

This is one astounding find.

Better be careful with what you post, Elfen. You don't want a squad of cyborg killer-tots busting down your door, and having you end up a missing person for all eternity...

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Post by Guest on Fri 30 Nov 2007 - 23:34

Nachtsider wrote:This is one astounding find.

Better be careful with what you post, Elfen. You don't want a squad of cyborg killer-tots busting down your door, and having you end up a missing person for all eternity...

Oh, that's the least of my worries...

the biggest of my worries would be them finding the rest of us...

Anyway, I was going to map out the Agency once a very long time ago, but I got wrapped up in school and couldn't do it.


Anyway, having an outside firing range, though. That's what gets me the most. I took some screenshots of the Agency's varrying locations (most notably, the outside training course) with which I was going to use as blueprints, but like I said, never got around to it.

I wonder if Yu flew to Rome and got some ideas there.

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Post by Nachtsider on Sat 1 Dec 2007 - 0:05

The outdoor firing range and CQB training area always struck me as being a very temporary setup - something you could erect and take down in a jiffy, which I feel would be an invaluable quality given the fact that the SWA are a black-ops outfit masquerading as a children's home. All they need to do when keeping up appearances as a welfare institute (i.e., when some welfare-oriented bigwigs turn up to tour the place) would be to cart the rifle silhouettes and mock buildings away and put up some artificial foilage, or perhaps something to make the hillsides and bare earth look like a play area. I think it also goes without saying that the cyborgs and their handlers always pick up their brass after training sessions.

I imagine the outdoor obstacle course wouldn't lead to any awkward questions being asked, and could be just left standing permanently - they do teach P.E. everywhere, after all. And as for the indoor firing ranges, the 'hidden rooms' concept central to all good spy movies comes readily to mind.

Or maybe the outdoor firing range and CQB area are part of an artificial 'moving landscape', which can be concealed underground whenever necessary. I dunno.

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Wileama on Sat 1 Dec 2007 - 2:29

I always thought the SWA did a pretty bad job when it came to information security. Or perhaps I merely haven't been impressed with it. I feel like anyone with decent research abilities would be able to find some of the enormous holes in their cover.

I mean you have ex military badass admitting that they work for the SWA. If that's their cover then it shouldn't be to hard to figure out the SWA employs a few able body military types. Throw that in with the rumor mill the Five Republics has going. Not to mention if the SWA doesn't actually do some things along their cover it's going to get really fishy.

Personally I would have handlers admit their part of the intelligence community. Maybe a private security company if that's bad 'trade.' I wouldn't have them admit to working for the SWA agency though. The SWA in the middle of the forest. Yeah, that publicly belongs to the intelligence community. That way you can turn up the security without people scratching their heads. People wont be perplexed with the gun fire, and shooting ranges. It would all seem very secretive, but that would be considered normal in this case.

There will be an actual Complex SWA near Rome. It will do exactly what the cover says they do, help children. They'll employ a few people as social workers helping those with relatively easy problems. The Rome complex will help a few dozen with more moderate cases. The very rare high end case agency takes on goes to the cyborg facility. The funding for the cover organization come from congress, with maybe a few funds going to the cyborg operation, or vice versa depending on the budgets. Mean while the cyborg operation is funded by a black line item in the military/intelligence budget.

That seems to me like it would help shore up some of the holes I see in their information protection. Then again maybe they already do some of this. We don't see a lot in the way of info security, it just what I do see, doesn't feel very well rounded out.

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Post by Danjo3 on Sat 1 Dec 2007 - 2:45

LoC978 wrote:It does look strikingly similar. All this time I'd been assuming their compound was a little bit outside the urban sprawl of Rome. but maybe that's just the outdoor range complex I was thinking of...
I too, asusumed the outdoor range was separate from the main compound. In the anime (not sure about the manga off hand) the girls want someone to take them to the outdoor range to watch the meteor shower because it's futher away from the light pollution of Rome. When Jose backed out, Triela says they might have to settle for watching from the dorm roof. When they finally do go, they have to be driven there. None of this would have been a problem if the range was within the compound.

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Post by Nachtsider on Sat 1 Dec 2007 - 10:18

Wileama wrote:There will be an actual Complex SWA near Rome. It will do exactly what the cover says they do, help children. They'll employ a few people as social workers helping those with relatively easy problems. The Rome complex will help a few dozen with more moderate cases. The very rare high end case agency takes on goes to the cyborg facility.

This is accurate - at least, as far as my copies of the anime are concerned. I've seen and heard stuff in there that indicates the cyborgs comprise the 'irredeemable' category among the children the Agency takes under its wing.

Danjo3 wrote:I too, asusumed the outdoor range was separate from the main compound. In the anime (not sure about the manga off hand) the girls want someone to take them to the outdoor range to watch the meteor shower because it's futher away from the light pollution of Rome. When Jose backed out, Triela says they might have to settle for watching from the dorm roof. When they finally do go, they have to be driven there. None of this would have been a problem if the range was within the compound.

I've often contemplated the possibility of the outdoor range being seperate from the main compound. This theory becomes somewhat less credible in light of certain evidence from Episodes Five and Nine, however, which clearly indicate that the range is within walking distance of the dormitories.


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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Guest on Sat 1 Dec 2007 - 11:33

The main reason why information about the SWA isn't spilling out into the public is the brutal level of control that the government has. From what we know, the Prime Minister controls the vast majority of the media, and if anyone gets too loud or too close it's not as if the SWA will have a moral dillema about silencing him or her; they'll just send a team and said person sleeps with the fishes.


As to the shooting range Raballo could have gotten there by car, but I got the feeling that he walked and since his leg is injured it can't be too far away.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sat 1 Dec 2007 - 22:19

3klicks wrote:The main reason why information about the SWA isn't spilling out into the public is the brutal level of control that the government has. From what we know, the Prime Minister controls the vast majority of the media,...
I would not say that is the case 100% of the time. Organized crime and terrorists have used children in their schemes of things (usually boys). It happens so often that they public is jaded and really dont care. In see a girl, the public must be thinking- 'must be a younger sister one of the boy killers out there.'

Everything else remains true though.

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Post by Danjo3 on Sun 2 Dec 2007 - 1:33

Nachtsider wrote:I've often contemplated the possibility of the outdoor range being seperate from the main compound. This theory becomes somewhat less credible in light of certain evidence from Episodes Five and Nine, however, which clearly indicate that the range is within walking distance of the dormitories.
This is also true. I sometimes think the location of the range depends on the story arc.

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Guest on Fri 18 Apr 2008 - 21:12

Just for curiosities sake, and because I happen to have Google Earth open right now, where exactly is this?

Never mind, I tooled around for a while and FINALLY found it.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Fri 18 Apr 2008 - 23:04

Its in Rome, about a mile East from the Vatican...
Which is strange, because in Season 1's Animes, you can 'hear the bell in St. Peter's Church's Square.'

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Post by Danjo3 on Sun 20 Apr 2008 - 6:51

ElfenMagix wrote:

I always thought this was so cool. When the GSG movie is made, they need to talk to these folks about using their property.

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 20 Apr 2008 - 6:56

Hopefully, they'll offer credit where credit is due and give our community creative say in the movie project for our finding the damn place.

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Post by Guest on Mon 28 Apr 2008 - 9:29

...now seeing the compound, what if it was real?

...what if the girls were really REALLY there? What would you do? Care to try hand one of your fanfics and see how they react? Laughing

...what if you *accidentally* met Claes while passing by? Would you interact with her? How about Henrietta? Triela?

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Mon 28 Apr 2008 - 9:56

Holy shit! LOC!

This is one heck of a find!

Can you give me the GPS Coordenites from Google earth?

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Post by Guest on Mon 28 Apr 2008 - 10:28

...wouldn't it be funny if it was actually a school campus Laughing

heh, if I have the money I'll buy myself a ticket to Rome and see it for myself. See if the girls were there and if they were...

...holy shit...

...should I take a picture of them? Well, that is if they were there, but that would spell impending doom. Talk to them? Yeah, followed with a gun barrel shoved into your mouth by either the girl or the handler saying: "You Padania spy, scum?"

...If it did happened like that, I'd really show this board and tell them 'you got fans' Laughing

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 28 Apr 2008 - 11:23

Tommygunner70 wrote:Holy shit! LOC!

This is one heck of a find!

Can you give me the GPS Coordenites from Google earth?
Its about a mile, mile and a 1/2 directly EAST of the Vatican City... Maybe less because I dont know how big the blocks in Rome are. In NYC, 20 blocks = 1 mile; 12 blocks is about 1 KM.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Tue 4 Nov 2008 - 20:42

Need a much closer view of the target area.

I chose the one in Rome because it is so close to the GsG construct. Also much of their mission are in Rome and therefore it would be much easier to house them in a secure area of the city than constantly bringing them from outside. This also gives the cyborgs the ability to roam around town for those handlers who allow them to be free.

Strangely, when Allesandro took Petrashuka out, they went from the SWA compound to the subway which to them was with walking distance. The cyborgs are in need of constant medical care (from the looks of it) and with within reach of the facility (thus Rome).

This however, I can see as a weapons & combat training are that our lovely killer cyborg tots are taken to for mission training. It does hold a lot of promise. Excellent find.

And yes, anyone notices the tiny 'private' airport off to the side?

Can you say Kiwi Flying School?

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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 4 Nov 2008 - 20:49

The existing buildings don't really match anything in the SWA compound. It's just the only forested part of Rome that isn't in the mountains and since the President also hangs out there, once can imagine that is the reason no civilian structures are nearby.

But it would work if you just cleared and grated a zone of the forest to then build the compound in (even if the manga states the place has been there forever).
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Post by ElfenMagix on Tue 4 Nov 2008 - 21:03

Rome has been there since 'forever'.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 15 Nov 2008 - 16:08

The missing pages of Chapter 56 included a full view of what might be the "public" SWA compound and the OVA also included an animated view of it:





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Post by ElfenMagix on Sat 15 Nov 2008 - 22:31

This is one of several bases of the SWA has throughout Italy.
Clearly, this does not show the stairway path or elevated pathway that is shown in Episode 5: Promessa or in Episode 2: Orione. It also does not have the covered walkway as in Episode 2: Orione Nor does it show the parking lot with the buildings that surround it as shown in all of Season 1.

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Post by Piero on Sat 15 Nov 2008 - 22:51

The first season anime and the manga don't always match up exactly, so I would take the absence of one or two features as meaning that this isn't supposed to be the SWA compound.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sat 15 Nov 2008 - 23:03

Yu's fucked up with the series as some of us had fucked up with our fanficts.

There is no ONE BASE. There are serveral. This one you pointed out as per the information that you gathered. The one in Rome I have pointed out as per the information I gathered (which at the time there was no Season 2, and we argued about the chatpers that just came out for Volume 7.) This is one base that out there, like there is one in Rome (which at the time I pointed out the covered walkways and other items), and there are others like in Florence and in Milan. The other Bases may be shared with other agencies, as in Episode 6(?): Gelatto.

The Rome base is akin to Rockefeller University, which has no admissions, no application, no exams, no tests, no students, no teachers, but is an arm of the Goverment for bio-medical research. The people who are in there are chosen to be in there, and not applicants. Walking through its gates without somebody waiting there to vouge for you to enter, will make you disppear as a person. It is on 70th - 68th streets on First Avenue, NYC NY; next to New York Hospital and its prestigous wards (Hospital for Specail Surgery and Sloan Catering Cancer Center). Its website however, is pretty convincing that it is a Graduate Bio-Medical Research University, which it is not.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 15 Nov 2008 - 23:11

Well pretty much were going to be stuck with multiple locations since they all look different.

It is possible that C56 and the OVAs are showing the actual "public" side of the SWA. That medical center complex is ridiculously large for supporting 20 cyborgs and maybe a hundred other staffers. However, as a huge complex designed to support civilians undergoing augmentation and their families, it makes more sense. The nicely manicured grounds and total lack of security (that wall of trees is just for decoration) also don't look like they belong to an actual Section 2 facility.
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Post by Piero on Sun 16 Nov 2008 - 0:47

Kiskaloo, under what circumstances do these facilities appear? Because that being the public side of the SWA does seem like a nice explanation in some ways... except it seems a it odd for the covert and public sides of the SWA to be operating in such close proximity. Seems a little dangerous, really.

I'm honestly bothered by the idea that the covert side of the SWA has very many large scale facilities. It seems odd for such a small organisation. Some scattered safehouses in addition to the main facility perhaps, but even that might be pushing it.

Being able to coordinate with other covert agencies to be able to make use of their facilities where possible might have some merit though.

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 16 Nov 2008 - 1:08

Piero wrote:Kiskaloo, under what circumstances do these facilities appear?

It appears in Chapter 56 and shows Triela (in the outfit she was wearing in Naples when Hillshire is shot) walking down a road, talking to herself and her "mother" in her mind. She appears to be inside the complex, itself. These pages are missing from the Chapter 56 scanlation, however, so you need the Volume 10 tankobon to see them.

In Episode 14, in the scene where Rico is having the nightmare of no arms and legs, we see the sun rising from behind a hill and falling through her window, waking up. And when she and Jean are loading the Benz, they're in a parking lot in front of a building of the same style as seen in the complex surrounded by a single row of trees spaced-apart as seen in the complex.

The entire complex itself appears somewhere in Episode 14. It's a very brief establishing shot and I don't feel like spending 30 minutes watching the entire episode again to find out exactly where it appears. But it's in there.

Frankly, I think the complex is too big to be either for Public Safety or Special Operations. I think it might have nothing to do with them, but is instead the "public facade" for the SWA, which we need to remember does have a public mission of helping people with debilitating injuries. As such, they would need a huge medical complex and likely offices (for all the bureacrats) and lodging for the families of those being treated in the medical center.

As to why Triela showed up, it could be for reasons not relating to her Special Operations duties. Maybe Hillshire is there having his wound properly looked into and Triela is just walking the grounds, killing time.
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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Danjo3 on Sun 16 Nov 2008 - 2:51

Kiskaloo wrote:It appears in Chapter 56 and shows Triela (in the outfit she was wearing in Naples when Hillshire is shot) walking down a road, talking to herself and her "mother" in her mind. She appears to be inside the complex, itself. These pages are missing from the Chapter 56 scanlation, however, so you need the Volume 10 tankobon to see them.
Is there any way you can post these missing pages?

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 16 Nov 2008 - 11:21

Danjo3 wrote:Is there any way you can post these missing pages?

Megaupload link
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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Danjo3 on Sun 16 Nov 2008 - 12:24

Kiskaloo wrote:Megaupload link
Cool! Grazie mille Kiskaloo! cheers

So am I to take it that Triela is thinking about Rachael, who she thought was her Mom, but now knows isnt? You know, I think Yu created the character of Triela specifically to break my heart.

This may sound stupid, but chapter 56 was the end of volume 10, right?

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 16 Nov 2008 - 14:50

Danjo3 wrote:This may sound stupid, but chapter 56 was the end of volume 10, right?

Chapter 58 is the final chapter of Volume 10.
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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by ElfenMagix on Sun 16 Nov 2008 - 22:20

The scenes are very different from the Pasta Prince chapter in V2 Ch10 P138.
There was also something also mentioned in Epi-13 and in the Meteor shower.

Claes (I think) mentioned that the meteor shower would be difficult to be seen because of the lights in Rome, that they would need to be at the practice base to see the meteor shower since it was far away enough to see it.

So this proves that there are at least 2 bases of operations.

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 16 Nov 2008 - 22:24

Well there is the Carabinieri base at Frosinone, which is about 75km SW of Rome. That is where Triela went to undergo her hand-to-hand training by that GIS officer after getting her bum handed to her by Pino. However, Amadeo and Giorgio were also present so I am wondering if this might not be the "field training" base where they practice the house-to-house stuff.
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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by ElfenMagix on Wed 19 Nov 2008 - 18:43

In Florence, as you stated in the chat, it was the Ministry of Tourism...
So what these guys did to earn the eire of the SWA? Printed Counterfeit Tourist Guides?

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 23 Oct 2009 - 18:01

I needed to check on something and I noticed that when Sandro and Petra leave the SWA building for the first time, they head for Rebibbia Metro Station which is located on the northeast outskirts of Rome on the Via Tiburtina just inside the A90 Ring Road and a bit north of the A24 that crosses the country to the east.

The Via Tuburtina continues on into Tivioli and I believe the river flowing around the complex is the Aniene. So that would put the SWA complex (at least as it appears in the later chapters and second season) somewhere in the Roman Campagna south of Tivoli, east of the Sabine hills, north of the A24 and San Vittornia and east of Vilaggio Adrano.

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by maverick375 on Fri 23 Oct 2009 - 23:10

INteresting. I always assumed it was a single base out in the hills, maybe 20 miles or so outside Rome. It was a monestary, and there were fields that were tilled, according to Jean. That is not exactly easy to do in Rome since it's been built up for freaking ever, especially around the Vatican area.

But the inconsistencies are hard to explain away. Vol 6's Petra/Sandro excursion is definitely on foot, unless Sandro parked in a lot located outside of a gated section of the rural facility, which is not necessarily impossible.

I suspect that both Sections One and Two operate out of different buildings, but since they are both under the same cabinet person (or whatever it is), it's not unreasonable that they are on the same campus. That being the case, the Section 2 area might very well be segregated even further, thus requiring an additional gate and a 'common' parking lot.

The only place where you can have a large weapons facility is out in the country. The security bonuses are also very attractive.

Here's another thing that makes you wonder: The Vol 9 pistol range that Jean takes Rico to. Looks almost like it's a commercial range in the city.

Finally, my major reasoning why it is likely out in the hills is this: It is simply not very simple, logisticly, to move cyborgs rooms from one location to another often. We have seen too many instances of the girls being in the compound in post #1 ( or one that looks like it) and it is certainly in-context that it is where they live. This is also connected to the Medical area and apparently the training grounds, as Priscilla certainly did not drive Angelica 20+ miles from the rural training grounds to the city dorms on her Vespa.

The Rome facility on the satellite picts is simply not big enough for two sections of a covert government organization.

The anime Series 1, episode 1 intro certainly lends itself to the place being in Rome. However, that assumes that Jose and Henrietta were walking at the Agency, which as I recall was not firmly established, but only implied or possible at best.

Best answer is that there are minor inconsistencies and Yu is simply using the age-old trick of artists to use a pleasing looking structure for a base design. The facility is most likely out in the middle of nowhere, where any and all prying eyes can be spotted and poked out with extreme prejudice.

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 23 Oct 2009 - 23:38

maverick375 wrote:INteresting. I always assumed it was a single base out in the hills, maybe 20 miles or so outside Rome. It was a monestary, and there were fields that were tilled, according to Jean. That is not exactly easy to do in Rome since it's been built up for freaking ever, especially around the Vatican area.

Well the Roman Campagna is rural and agricultural. And it's a good 20km away from the center of Rome. So it generally seems to fit.

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by boomer_gonz on Sat 24 Oct 2009 - 4:26

ElfenMagix wrote:The scenes are very different from the Pasta Prince chapter in V2 Ch10 P138.
There was also something also mentioned in Epi-13 and in the Meteor shower.

Claes (I think) mentioned that the meteor shower would be difficult to be seen because of the lights in Rome, that they would need to be at the practice base to see the meteor shower since it was far away enough to see it.

So this proves that there are at least 2 bases of operations.

Which also concurs with my assessment on the matter.

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 24 Oct 2009 - 11:06

Claes notes in Chapter 8 that she wishes she was farther from Rome and that their eyes should still make up for it. The panels also show a light glow on the lower horizon.

While I have not been to the Roman Campagna, at a distance of around 25km from Rome and rural agricultural, I think the ambient light pollution would not be too bad. And Claes' comment implies the girls have superior low-light visual perception compared to normal humans.

There is the Frosinone Provisional Command training ground that Triela went to learn hand-to-hand combat from the GIS. However, that is 75km southwest from Rome - not my idea of "near".


It is clear Yu either decided to move the SWA to a new complex between Chapters 10 and 48, or he ret-conned the original one he showed in Chapter 10 in favor of the one shown in Chapter 48 and Episode 14 of -IL TEATRINO-.

Personally, considering how he is ret-conning other things he established earlier in the manga later in the manga, I am of the opinion that he is doing so here and the SWA has always been in the new location and has always looked like it does there.

If they ever do "Gunslinger Girl Remastered", the scenes of the SWA in Chapter 10 will be re-drawn to look like they do in Chapter 48. Razz

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by commanderagl on Thu 5 Nov 2009 - 0:35

The base actually seems like its a military compound or government office, there are usually some spec-ops soldier stationed there it seems. so cover as a children's home does not seem likely.
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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 5 Nov 2009 - 0:50

commanderagl wrote:The base actually seems like its a military compound or government office, there are usually some spec-ops soldier stationed there it seems. so cover as a children's home does not seem likely.

I expect the only children there are the cyborgs themselves, and their presence is a secret.

In the overhead establishing shots in Chapter 56 / Episode 14, the complex extends off to the right, as the monastery is in that direction. And based on page 119 of Volume 9, the bedroom the four Series 2 cyborgs are in appears to look out onto the monastery, which would put the cyborg dorm also off to the right, off-page / off-screen.

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by zarien85 on Sun 8 Aug 2010 - 19:25

Panzer IV wrote:...now seeing the compound, what if it was real?

...what if the girls were really REALLY there? What would you do? Care to try hand one of your fanfics and see how they react? Laughing

...what if you *accidentally* met Claes while passing by? Would you interact with her? How about Henrietta? Triela?


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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 8 Aug 2010 - 19:44

zarien85 wrote:
if I met anyone of the girls in real life i would be scared to cross her more than once
You'd have to count yourself lucky if you walked away from even that one meeting.


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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by zarien85 on Mon 9 Aug 2010 - 17:21

you r right

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Re: SWA-Compound Found!

Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 1 Nov 2010 - 20:21

Since we've been given more hints of the terrain around the compound and just how large the entire facility is in later chapters, for Pactio I have decided to place the compound around the Abruzzo / Lazio border tucked up in the shadow of the Central Apennines and the Abruzzo, Lazio and Molise National Park.





I chose this area for a few reasons.

The first is the manga and -IL TEATRINO- make it clear the compound lies in the western shadow of hills / mountains (since the sun rises behind the mountains and the compound).

Second, we see a stream running along the front edge of the complex. The Liri is a major river that runs in the area, so what we see could be a tributary of that river.

Third, it is clear this complex is both "public" and "private" so it needs access. The Strada Statale (State Highway) 690 runs through the area and this connects the area to both the A24 and A1 Autostrada, allowing access to all of Italy. SS690 is also anchored at either end by two major communes - Avezzano to the north and Frosinone to the southwest (this is where the GIS facility that the girls appear to train at is located).

Fourth, while it has access, it's also still somewhat remote, being at least 100 kilometers from Rome (so about an hours drive if Allison or Kara are not behind the wheel). This fits in with the panning shots in the anime and manga, which show the surrounding area to be quite rural.

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