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Post by Jacen Starslayer on Sun 21 Mar 2010 - 0:16

Match 1: Integra Hellsing

Match 2: Nanoha

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Post by Five_X on Sun 21 Mar 2010 - 0:21

Hellsing and

Nanohaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

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Post by crazyidiot78 on Sun 21 Mar 2010 - 0:30

Def Integra for match one I mean come on she made Alucarda her play thing. Match two is Nanoha hands down

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Post by SPARTAN 119 on Sun 21 Mar 2010 - 10:43

@Five_X wrote:Hellsing and

Nanohaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!

Same here.

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Post by Ggultra2764 on Sun 21 Mar 2010 - 10:47

Match #1: Integra (Enjoys smoking cigars and capable of keeping an uber-powerful vampire like Alucard under control.)

Match #2: Nanoha by default. Alita doesn't have much of a description.

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Post by MadHatChemist on Sun 21 Mar 2010 - 11:22

Match One: Integra. Difficult choice, but the attidute is the more badass of the two

Match Two: Alita/Gally. Aside from the fact that I nominated her, I hold a general dislike for Magical Girl Lyrical Nanoha... Alitawent from amnesiac to amnesiac who is a master fo the Panzer Kunst form of cyborg fighting, and then on to conquer motorball; thereafter coming back from death to take on the paragons of flan eating mad scientists, and the entire solar system governing body.




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Post by KodokuRyuu on Sun 21 Mar 2010 - 16:16

Match One: Integra from Hellsing.
Match Two: Alita from Battle Angel Alita. Would have voted for Nanoha if it hadn't been for the new description.

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Post by Piero on Sun 21 Mar 2010 - 20:37

Match One: Integra

Match Two: Nanoha. Alita may be awesome, but I know Nanoha is awesome. Smile

Although like any good contender, she has a deep, dark secret that could ruin her reputation if it ever got out. Razz

Yeah, a lot changed between that prototype video and the TV anime.

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Post by theprodigalson on Sun 21 Mar 2010 - 20:59

Match One: Abstain.

Match Two: I'm actually not familiar with either show but the pics of Alita are very badass.

Although like any good contender, she has a deep, dark secret that could ruin her reputation if it ever got out. Razz

Yeah, a lot changed between that prototype video and the TV anime.

How did she get Sakura's WAND!?!

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Post by Piero on Sun 21 Mar 2010 - 21:25

@theprodigalson wrote:Match One: Abstain.

Match Two: I'm actually not familiar with either show but the pics of Alita are very badass.

Although like any good contender, she has a deep, dark secret that could ruin her reputation if it ever got out. Razz

Yeah, a lot changed between that prototype video and the TV anime.

How did she get Sakura's WAND!?!

I'm just glad that they replaced it with something vastly cooler in the actual anime. (Kind of like how I'm also glad Lindy is the commander of a Time Space Administration Bureau warship in the anime rather than a fairy helper like in the original...)

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 21 Mar 2010 - 21:33

Never seen it (though I have bought some figures), but I imagine I would have liked it more if they'd kept the original idea. Smile

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Post by KodokuRyuu on Mon 22 Mar 2010 - 1:11

@Piero wrote:Although like any good contender, she has a deep, dark secret that could ruin her reputation if it ever got out. Razz
Wow Piero, way to try to manipulate people with a moe video.
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Post by Piero on Mon 22 Mar 2010 - 1:56

Dude, I was trying to be funny by posting that. I actually considered deleting it after I posted it because I was worried it could cost her votes. Besides, the main guy who votes on cuteness is Kisk and he voted for her before I posted that particular vid.

(For the record, the video in question was part of a fandisc for a visual novel called Triangle Heart 3. Apparently someone thought it would be cute to do a video of the main protagonist's little sister as a magical girl. And then someone decided it would be a good idea to make an anime based on that video. I'm not sure if the "hey, the concept art reminds me of Gundam -let's do a Super Robot show disguised as a magical girl show!" thing came before or after the anime had already been confirmed.

Yeah, the origins of the Nanoha franchise are... odd.)

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Post by Piero on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 0:01

Integra wins her match 8-1 , while Nanoha wins hers 7-3.

Match One:

An Ishbalan who took part in the aptly named Ishbalan War, he lost everything when the State Alchemists abruptly and violently ended the
war and the government rounded up his people. Before dying, his brother gifted (or cursed) him with a right arm capable of powerful alchemical
ability that he doesn't fully understand. Convinced his brother intended this arm for vengeance, he begins (rather successfully) hunting the "vile" State Alchemists who had taken his home from him. One of the few characters in the series able to boast repeatedly fighting the terrifying homunculi and living to tell about it, I give you Full Metal Alchemist's: Scar.



This man aims to be the strongest swordsman in the world and he refuses to allow anyone or anything stand in his way. He practices Santouryuu which uses three swords - one in each hand and a third in his mouth. He spends most of his time sleeping on training, and when it's time for a fight he's always ready for action. Training can include: swimming upstream in an icy river half-naked in the winter, taking a set of benching weights heavy enough to crush Arnold Schwarzenegger attached to one end of a benching bar and swinging them hard enough to generate a breeze, fighting small fry enemies (he considers opponents that would make most people run in fear a warm up). This is One Piece's Roronoa Zoro.



Episode where Zoro is against an opponent that can turn his own body into steel weapons. What's Zoro do? Learn how to cut steel. Razz Watch from 17:18 to 20:00 if you want to skip all the flashbacks and junk and get to the awesome part.
Zoro in battle stance. Zoro covered in his own blood and still ready to kick your rear.

Match Two:

A servant whose past is unknown, he is summoned by the magus Rin Tohsaka to be her Servant in the fifth Holy Grail War, in which seven magi
fight to obtain the Grail of legend. While most Servants are the spirits of old heroes, like Hercules, nobody knows who Archer is, not even himself. He's noted to be quite sarcastic and coldly logical, often clashing with the protagonist's idealistic views. Depending on the path you take in the game, he does more or less hardcore stuff. For example, in the Fate route, he manages to land six fatal blows on the most powerful servant, Berserker (Hercules), despite being a completely unknown hero. In other words, that means he was ridiculously powerful in his associated legend to make up for no one remembering who he is. Despite being the Archer servant, he also has two shortswords that he summons that he can never lose, and is very proficient with them. In the anime adaptation, Archer is shown using more abilities, which include an archery attack. Here's the original "gar" character -Archerfrom Fate/Stay Night.



Archer and his Master

Manly!

A Chinese-American born and raised in Chinatown, Manhattan, she does most of the fighting for the Lagoon Company. She spent most of her youth as a thief and murderer. Revy is very competitive, easily bored, and extremely ill-tempered. She is undiplomatic, believing in the use of
brute force and coercion to get her way. She is also a heavy smoker and drinker. Here's Black Lagoon's Revy.



Voting for this round will end at 9:00pm Pacific Standard Time on Thursday, March 25.

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Post by Five_X on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 2:44

Damn, Archer vs. Revy. This may be difficult. Luckily, I have a video showcasing Archer's intangible badassery.



Warning: Contains massive levels of awesome. I may post some pictures later, too.

EDIT: Here's a picture of Archer blocking Lancer's Gae Bolg attack, which always hits, and always kills. Archer is just that hardcore.


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Post by MadHatChemist on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 3:17

Match One: Ishbalan -- not familiar with One Piece...

Match Two: Revy -- Come on...it's Revy!

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Post by KodokuRyuu on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 5:29

Match One: Roronoa Zoro from One Piece. Scar is just a angsty maniac. Zoro is made of awesome.
Match Two: Archer from F/sn.

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Post by crazyidiot78 on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 6:57

Scar and Revy
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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 10:09

Match One: Scar (by default - never seen One Piece)

Match Two: Revy (I value my life too much to not vote for her)

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Post by Ggultra2764 on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 10:48

Match 1: Scar (Zolo's able to dish out and take abuse, but Scar went a step further by blowing up one of his arms with alchemy at one point just to stay alive.)

Match 2: Revy (Badass with enough attitude and has the skill to back up said attitude.)

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Post by boomer_gonz on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 11:03

Match 1: Roronoa Zoro from One Piece
-While Scar can pretty much do what he wants to; I doubt he can withstand the power of the 300 lb. Cannon.

Match 2: Revy from Black Lagoon
- I mean....it's Revy.

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Post by theprodigalson on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 12:14

Match 1: Scar. And not just because I nominated him. I feel like he truly should win this one.

Match 2: Abstain.

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Post by Jacen Starslayer on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 12:42

Round One: Zoro.
Round Two: Archer, because he has the ability to create any weapon to defeat his opponents. I'd like to see Revy dodge an unlimited amount of Bladed weapons that Archer can conjure and use.

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Post by SPARTAN 119 on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 13:18

Match 1: Scar
Match 2: Revy, because those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't. Or, in the words of Revy herself:Guns over swords, nukes over guns.


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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 13:19

@SPARTAN 119 wrote:Match 2: Revy, because those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't.

I think Kara's going to adopt that motto. Yes Indeed Wink

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Post by rusty-spring on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 14:27

Revy

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Post by Five_X on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 19:02

I'm prettysure that the reason so few people are voting for Archer is because they haven't actually watched Fate/Stay Night, or haven't read the visual novel. There's a reason why I nominated the guy and think he's the epitome of badassery. He's simply that great. And in addition to his fighting abilities, he's an expert tactician and great thinker. I think Jacen, who read the VN, can attest to that. Plus, the guy doesn't even need guns. He possibly could use them, but instead does not, preferring to warp reality around him to create a field of unlimited swords, or to fire massively exploding arrows.


Seriously, just watch the video Kodoku and I posted. It should really make you think about who you're going to vote for, that's for sure.

Then again, I guess this predicament is due in no small part to Black Lagoon being very very popular here. Isn't it sad, Sacchin Archer?

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Post by KodokuRyuu on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 20:23

For those not familiar with One Piece I did post a video... -_-;

@SPARTAN 119 wrote:those who live by the sword get shot by those who don't
I'm pretty certain Archer could block and/or dodge bullets if he needed to. And the fact that he can use both short and long range weapons means he wouldn't have much trouble with an opponent like Revy. Though this is really a contest of who would win...

Archer artwork by Yu himself:





(It's a White Day cookie baking contest and everyone's voting for Archer except Ilya.)
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Post by Five_X on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 20:53

(It's a White Day cookie baking contest and everyone's voting for Archer except Ilya.)

Is that really what it says? Cool. I think everyone should mirror that and vote for him in this contest as well. Hint hint.

Also, to add even more badassery to the Archer video, I have to add that Berserker is actually the legendary Hercules. So yeah, Archer came close to beating a demigod. That's kind of a major thing.

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Post by KodokuRyuu on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 21:20

@Five_X wrote:
(It's a White Day cookie baking contest and everyone's voting for Archer except Ilya.)
Is that really what it says?
That's just my summary, it literally says "It's White Day! Handmade cookies competition!!" at the top and "Judges" on the table. The little squiggles on the signs refer to Archer and the character on the sign Ilya is frantically waving is for Shirou.
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Post by Jacen Starslayer on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 21:24

Where's the picture? I want to see.

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Post by rusty-spring on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 21:53

I've seen Fate/Stay, but for me gunslinging females > magical sword conjurers. (And before anyone says anything, yes I was generalizing .) I'm biased towards females, blame it on the Y chromosome.

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Post by Piero on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 22:19

In all honesty, Archer is probably stronger than Revy, but Revy just seems more badass to me. Badassery isn't all about achievements and power levels. They're a factor, but only one of many. This is especially true when comparing characters from series that have vastly different rules (such as a hyper realistic series versus one where everyone is superhuman).

Which isn't to say that Archer is a Boring Invincible Hero or anything, but Revy just seems more badass to me. That may be because I've seen a
twenty four episodes of her versus a few minutes worth of Archer, but that's the way things are in these tournaments sometimes. While it's not the be all and end all (re: my voting for Dante over Natsuki Kuga), familiarity counts for an awful lot (re: my voting for Nanoha over Alita).

Match One: Scar

Match Two: Revy

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Post by SPARTAN 119 on Tue 23 Mar 2010 - 23:08

@Piero wrote:In all honesty, Archer is probably stronger than Revy, but Revy just seems more badass to me. Badassery isn't all about achievements and power levels. They're a factor, but only one of many. This is especially true when comparing characters from series that have vastly different rules (such as a hyper realistic series versus one where everyone is superhuman)

Another thing to think about, if a character from a series where everyone has superpowers somehow entered a universe where everything was realistic, it's seems likely to me that they'd lose their superpowers as they'd become bound by that universe's laws of physics, which prohibit a human (or similar being) from having that much power.
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Post by theprodigalson on Wed 24 Mar 2010 - 0:18

Sorry Archer fans, I'm just not familiar with the series. Your videos have intrigued me though!

The things he chants when he is summoning swords just confuse me. I might be falling victim to a language difference here but it seems like "non-sensical gibberish phrased to sound super-intense".

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Post by Five_X on Wed 24 Mar 2010 - 2:36

Jeez. This is almost as much of a letdown as Saigar on /a/ when, like now, Archer lost against an opponent he should have won against. (Yes, I'm being pessimistic here). Rather disappointing, though I do now blame it on (almost) everyone here not wanting Kinoko Nasu to own these character tournaments.

Also, prodigal, what do you mean by "when he's summoning swords"? If you're referring to Unlimited Blade Works, then the chant for that is in Jacen's signature. The other chant he does, to project Overedge, is a little odd, but it actually does make sense wth the way magic works in the Nasuverse.

Alsox2, I think Black Lagoon's heavy use of the Rule of Cool counteracts Fate/Stay Night's very well explained magic system. Plus, I don't think cropssovers negate power. That kinda gets rid of the point of the crossover. Otherwise stuff like Shinji & Warhammer 40K wouldn't work. I'm too lazy to explain stuff like the Nasuverse magic system here, so just read the visual novels. They kick ass, trust me.

Alsox3, lol @ Black Lagoon having laws of physics.

In addition, Piero's statement is a bit odd, though it makes sense why you would think that way, given the little most people here have experienced in the series. I'm pretty sure that most of you would vote for him, if you had read the visual novel. Seriously.

But I still think Archer is, For What It's Worth, the most badass anime character ever. He's just amazingly cool.

Obviously, My vote goes to Archer. I don't really care about the other match, I just want Archer to win/get ahead/something. Unlikely as it may seem.


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Post by KodokuRyuu on Wed 24 Mar 2010 - 2:40

The thing he's chanting is in (poorly spoken) English and has nothing to do with the sword summonings, but with the reality marble he summons at the end. You can find the text in Jacen's sig and here's a couple of images with it on them: field with swords, Unlimited Blade Works.

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@Piero wrote:In all honesty, Archer is probably stronger than Revy, but Revy just seems more badass to me. Badassery isn't all about achievements and power levels. They're a factor, but only one of many. This is especially true when comparing characters from series that have vastly different rules (such as a hyper realistic series versus one where everyone is superhuman)
Another thing to think about, if a character from a series where everyone has superpowers somehow entered a universe where everything was realistic, it's seems likely to me that they'd lose their superpowers as they'd become bound by that universe's laws of physics, which prohibit a human (or similar being) from having that much power.
I'd agree with that. Though Archer is pretty buff - even without his powers, I wouldn't want to get in a fight with him.
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Re: Badasses Tournament Voting Thread

Post by LoC978 on Wed 24 Mar 2010 - 3:40

I'm back! Hopefully I'll be able to do this more often...
...much as I like the concept of Archer's character (and his little master's character design Evil ), the execution of combat in the Fate/Stay Night series just irks me so bad that I can't bring myself to vote for him (though if you pitted him up against any other Fate character, he wins in my book). Calm under fire=good. Taking several seconds to show the camera just how calm you are under fire=idiocy. Also, I'm one to appreciate utter ruthlessness in characters, and Revy really delivers in that respect (minus the times when her targets are sporting Plot Armor).
For the first match, I don't feel as strongly about it, but Scar is just too much of a pseudo-religious fanatic for him to qualify in my book. By all accounts, sword-in-mouth guy fits the bill of the crazy, unkillable, reckless badass. Not my cup of tea, but closer than Scar.

1) Zoro.

2) Revy.

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Re: Badasses Tournament Voting Thread

Post by theprodigalson on Wed 24 Mar 2010 - 10:56

Also, prodigal, what do you mean by "when he's summoning swords"? If you're referring to Unlimited Blade Works, then the chant for that is in Jacen's signature. The other chant he does, to project Overedge, is a little odd, but it actually does make sense wth the way magic works in the Nasuverse.

Yeah the Unlimited Blade Works is what I mean - my knowledge of Archer is limited to the video you posted so I might understand it better if I had seen the series but for now I just don't get it...

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Re: Badasses Tournament Voting Thread

Post by Piero on Fri 26 Mar 2010 - 0:00

Scar wins his match 7-4 while Revy wins her match 9-3.

This concludes the first round of voting. Voting will continue in the thread for the second round of voting. That thread will be up shortly.

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