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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 6 Apr 2010 - 19:30

At the moment, there appear to be four Second Generation girls who have appeared in the manga:



From left to right we have:

Fleccia, cyborg to Yarrow
Gattonero, cyborg to Lupa
Petrushka, cyborg to Alessandro Ricci
Soni, cyborg to Fio

Before they were formally named in the manga, I used the following names in my Original Series fiction:

Fleccia = Alba, cyborg to Gervasio Bentivegna
Gattonero = Ilaria, cyborg to Danilo Sandrelli
Soni = Giada, cyborg to Fabio De Luca


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Post by Professor Voodoo on Tue 6 Apr 2010 - 19:38

The more the better. I've actually run out of cyborgs in a few episodes.

Marisa: Good...another redhead. Maybe now Kara can stop calling me Testarossa.

Kara: But that's a cool nickname...you know, like the Ferrari!

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Post by ElfenMagix on Tue 6 Apr 2010 - 21:31

Dont forget to add them the wiki so they are easy to find.


Francesca: Another redhead cyborg? Is there a convention going on?

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Post by Danjo3 on Wed 7 Apr 2010 - 2:28

@ElfenMagix wrote:Francesca: Another redhead cyborg? Is there a convention going on?


Ginger Cyborgs.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Wed 7 Apr 2010 - 16:52

Ack!

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Post by WSM on Fri 16 Jul 2010 - 19:08

I'm not sure if we're suppose to post stuff about out fanworks on this page but since you did, I will to...

I was going to start a webcomic called "Gunslinger Girl: Reloaded" (and yes, that title is suppose to be cliche).
I made some concept art of these characters. I also created handlers for them based on some background characters in the manga. I even wrote a few pages of script and a fanfic-length summary.
In the story, Giada was like the Triela of the group, being almost big sister figure for the others, although she wasn't as mature or noble as Triela. Her handler was kind-of like Hillshire. He was more laid-back, hands-off and treated Giada as a person. Giada and her handler had a very friendly "employee-boss" kind of relationship.
Ilaria was kind of like the anti-Rico, being a lot more outgoing and impulsive. Her handler was a very professional old guy. They're relationship was a little more complicated but I would say it was an "unwilling master-unknowing slave" thing.
Alba was kind of a mix between Elsa and Claes. She was probably the most down-to-earth of the girls. Her handler was almost an anti-Jose who didn't really see the cyborgs as human. They had an "estranged daugher-neglectful father" relationship.
And, being gen2 cyborgs, they had much more developed social skills and greater freedoms than the gen1 cyborgs.

The problem is that as I developed the story, it became much different than the source material. Soon it became surreal, explicit, and a lot more comedic than the original series. Eventually, I decided to scrap this fan comic in favor of a different GSG fan comic that focused on Lauro and Elsa. However, I threw out this idea later.

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Anyways, I hope these characters do more as the series continues. As long as Aida doesn't try to use them to replace the original cyborgs.
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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 16 Jul 2010 - 21:19

Soni | "Giada" shows up in Chapter 75:



While Marco is near her, I would expect he is not her handler since she predated Angelica's death.

Damn wicked crossbow she'd wielding, as well.


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Post by ElfenMagix on Fri 16 Jul 2010 - 21:27

@Kiskaloo wrote:"Giada" shows up in Chapter 75:



While Marco is near her, I would expect he is not her handler since she predated Angelica's death.

Damn wicked crossbow she'd wielding, as well.
I would expect that the girls were built before they were to given to handlers. They were ordered to be built outright. With the death of Angie, Giada was given to him because he did not want to choose his cyborg like the others had, but given to him like Angie was.

She does not look too happy, or unsure of herself, this this is probably her first mission. Despite how much training a handler might give a cyborg, they still seem to get premission/mission jitters.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 16 Jul 2010 - 21:40

@ElfenMagix wrote:I would expect that the girls were built before they were to given to handlers. They were ordered to be built outright. With the death of Angie, Giada was given to him because he did not want to choose his cyborg like the others had, but given to him like Angie was.

That is how at least Claes was handled (per the anime, though it's possible she did not wake until Raballo made his decision), but Alessandro was made a handler before Petrushka was chosen. That being said, they did have authority to convert 10 girls, but I wonder if activating a girl without a handler is a good thing. The second generation girls don't have the enforced love of the first generation, so it's possible they could just sit around waiting for a handler to be chosen for them, but in both prior times we have seen them, the other three did not comment about not having a handler or looking forward to being paired up like Petrushka, so for the moment I am inclined to believe that they were paired at activation and Marco is now a staff officer like Amadeo or Ferro.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Fri 16 Jul 2010 - 21:58

We will have to see.
I remember that in V10, Marco stated that he would take a vacation and return to be given the first cyborg offered and that he would treat he better than he Angie.

We just have to wait and see.

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Post by Danjo3 on Sat 17 Jul 2010 - 2:24

@Kiskaloo wrote:


If I were that chick’s handler, the first thing I would do is get her a haircut.

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Post by Piero on Sat 17 Jul 2010 - 3:13

@Kiskaloo wrote:


Damn wicked crossbow she'd wielding, as well.

My brain is having issues with that thing. I suppose a huge ass crossbow that only a cyborg could properly prime might have some utility as a silent sniper weapon, but if that's the case what the heck is the grenade launcher for? Darn thing's going a bit off the deep end, IMO.

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Post by Cifu on Sat 17 Jul 2010 - 4:46

@Kiskaloo wrote:"Giada" shows up in Chapter 75:



Damn wicked crossbow she'd wielding, as well.

It's quite crazy - a crossbow with a HK AG36/AG-C 40mm grenade launcher. The Crossbow are a 'silent' weapon, it's do not have any other advantage over the firearms. The grenade launcher in other hand, anything but 'silent'...

Another crazy thing is the Crossbow itself - it's have an AR-15 type frame, even have fire selector...
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Post by Robert Frazer on Sat 17 Jul 2010 - 10:30

The grenade launcher is probably a reserve weapon - in case the faecal matter becomes embroiled with the air-conditioning unit and things are so hot that she doesn't have the time to wind back between every bolt, she can use it to clear some space and get a little breathing room.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 17 Jul 2010 - 10:39

MP5 identified the crossbow last night as a Precision Shooting Equipment TAC-15. You can mount the crossbow on the lower receiver assembly of the AR-15 assault rifle, which "Giada" has done, hence the grenade launcher slung beneath.

If I had to hazard a guess at a possible use, it might be that the crossbow is used to silently engage a guard and then follow with a 40mm Smoke Canopy grenade to cover an assault by other assets.

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Post by Piero on Sat 17 Jul 2010 - 13:17

Ah, so it is an actual weapon. The huge ass scope seems a bit overkill for a 400fps crossbow, though I'm no expert on such things. (For comparison though, a G3 battle rifle has a muzzle velocity of about 2600fps). I suppose if it's a variable power scope the extra magnfication could be useful for target identification and such.

As a note on 40mm grenade launchers -the M203 reportedly has a firing signature comparable to a cap gun. So it's the ammunition used that makes the big difference as to noise signature (and 40mm grenade launchers can fire a lot more than just HE rounds).

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Post by boomer_gonz on Sat 17 Jul 2010 - 13:35

Marco says, "Don't fucking point that at me!!!!!"

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Post by WSM on Mon 19 Jul 2010 - 4:13

As far as the crossbow goes, let's just say Yu Aida likes drawing crazy weapons.

I don't think Marco is her handler. Marco said that he would eventually take on a new cyborg after this character was introduced and shown talking with the other cyborgs. Petra wasn't activated until after Sandro was assigned to her and it was the same way with all the gen1 girls. Also, there were times when Triela or Henrietta would follow Jean instead of their own handlers.
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Post by windfish55 on Fri 23 Jul 2010 - 15:13

@WSM wrote:I was going to start a webcomic called "Gunslinger Girl: Reloaded" (and yes, that title is suppose to be cliche)... Soon it became surreal, explicit, and a lot more comedic than the original series.

I kinda like the sound of that. Maybe you should try it. At any rate, I'd read it.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Fri 23 Jul 2010 - 21:26

@WSM wrote:As far as the crossbow goes, let's just say Yu Aida likes drawing crazy weapons.

I don't think Marco is her handler. Marco said that he would eventually take on a new cyborg after this character was introduced and shown talking with the other cyborgs. Petra wasn't activated until after Sandro was assigned to her and it was the same way with all the gen1 girls. Also, there were times when Triela or Henrietta would follow Jean instead of their own handlers.
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Post by WSM on Sun 1 Aug 2010 - 16:32

@ElfenMagix and windfish55
Thanks for the encouragement, I might give this fancomic-idea another try. But I think I may need to find a cowriter to keep me on track because I have a tendency to impulsively take silly ideas too far.
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Post by Alfisti on Mon 2 Aug 2010 - 5:41

@WSM wrote:@ElfenMagix and windfish55
Thanks for the encouragement, I might give this fancomic-idea another try. But I think I may need to find a cowriter to keep me on track because I have a tendency to impulsively take silly ideas too far.
Well, if you need somewhere to bounce ideas off (and ask folks to pull you up if it goes too far), this forum's pretty good for that.

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Post by WSM on Mon 2 Aug 2010 - 19:55

@Alfisti wrote:
@WSM wrote:@ElfenMagix and windfish55
Thanks for the encouragement, I might give this fancomic-idea another try. But I think I may need to find a cowriter to keep me on track because I have a tendency to impulsively take silly ideas too far.
Well, if you need somewhere to bounce ideas off (and ask folks to pull you up if it goes too far), this forum's pretty good for that.

Good luck with it.
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Post by Robert Frazer on Sun 1 May 2011 - 6:22

Chapter 82 also gives a small role to another new Second Generation cyborg (she has long hair and no freckles, so she's not Alba) and her handler, Kraman:


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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 1 May 2011 - 16:39

I dare say that cyborg's name is Camicia Rosso.


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Post by Officer_Charon on Sun 1 May 2011 - 17:20

*snrk*

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Post by theprodigalson on Mon 2 May 2011 - 11:46

Hold on, firing up Google.
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Post by Robert Frazer on Mon 2 May 2011 - 12:04

From her stark eyes and clenched teeth, I'd wager that the girl is thinking "oh for fuck's sake, give it a rest already!" as her arm is shot out.

While we can't see much of "Kraman" with him being face down underneath rubble, his name may be an interesting indication of the Agency's possible international credentials - apparently a 'kraman' is an elder of a Javanese Islamic shrine, and is also used in Jainism to denote action; it also means "dog" in Twi, a Ghanese language. I wouldn't take those links to be necessarily conclusive - a quick Google throws up the profiles of plenty of western Kramans, and 'Kraman' is also an alternate rendering of the Italian 'Carmine' (or so sayeth "Behind the Name" at any rate). Still, the Model United Nations that is the fanon Agency has possibly been given a little fillip. Wink

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 2 May 2011 - 14:37

@Robert Frazer wrote:While we can't see much of "Kraman" with him being face down underneath rubble, his name may be an interesting indication of the Agency's possible international credentials
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Post by Alfisti on Mon 2 May 2011 - 17:00

@Professor Voodoo wrote:Or his parents just really liked their Volkswagen...
Don't laugh... one of our family friends is really into British sports cars and has a daughter called Morgan and a son named Martin.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 2 May 2011 - 18:22

@Alfisti wrote:
@Professor Voodoo wrote:Or his parents just really liked their Volkswagen...
Don't laugh... one of our family friends is really into British sports cars and has a daughter called Morgan and a son named Martin.
Everybody knows one...a guy I knew years ago named his daughter Shelby. Need I mention he was a big Ford fan?

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Post by Robert Frazer on Mon 2 May 2011 - 19:16

Well, I suppose it's not as narcissistic as Nigel Lawson (Chancellor for much of the 80s, now Lord Blaby) calling his daughter "Nigella". No, seriously.

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Post by Officer_Charon on Mon 2 May 2011 - 20:10

Nigella Lawson can be called whatever she wants. Phwoar!

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 2 May 2011 - 20:32

'Nigella' is a name that means 'Oops, we wanted a boy'.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 2 May 2011 - 23:50

@Officer_Charon wrote:Nigella Lawson can be called whatever she wants. Phwoar!

Yes Indeed

Ditto with Giada DeLaurentis.

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Post by SPARTAN 119 on Tue 3 May 2011 - 16:03

@Kiskaloo wrote:"Giada" shows up in Chapter 75:



While Marco is near her, I would expect he is not her handler since she predated Angelica's death.

Damn wicked crossbow she'd wielding, as well.

Is that an AG-36 grenade launcher on a crossbow!?...

Never mind, you already covered that....
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Re: The Other Generation Two Girls [ Gattonero | Soni | Fleccia ]

Post by tremec6speed on Sat 7 May 2011 - 1:14

Great ideas WSM, I'd read a Lauro and Elsa comic!
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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sat 7 May 2011 - 3:25

@tremec6speed wrote:Great ideas WSM, I'd read a Lauro and Elsa comic!

But you're the Lauro expert...we were expecting you to write that!

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Re: The Other Generation Two Girls [ Gattonero | Soni | Fleccia ]

Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 15 May 2011 - 15:01

So with the latest chapters of the manga, we now have some confirmed information on their actual names:

Gattonero, who has short dark black hair. Her handler is named Lupa and he has wavy hair.




Soni has short blonde hair and she wears one of her bangs over her right eye. Her handler is female and named Fio. Fleccia has straight red hair and freckles and her handler has dark hair and is named Yarrow:





And Chapter 82 introduced a new girl. Her name is unknown, but her handler is named Kraman:



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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 15 May 2011 - 16:15

Gattonero, you say.

I pity any girl with the misfortune of having such a name. Her handler must really love his coffee.

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Post by Officer_Charon on Sun 15 May 2011 - 17:50

I think we may presume that Fureccha is the redhead with the freckles

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 11 Jun 2011 - 3:59

So we now have the official names, thanks to the translations of the most recent chapters.




From left to right we have:

Fleccia, cyborg to Yarrow
Gattonero, cyborg to Lupa
Petrushka, cyborg to Alessandro Ricci
Soni, cyborg to Fio


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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sat 11 Jun 2011 - 4:23

After using the names you'd declared for so long this is going to take some getting used to (and a good deal of story editing).

Farewell Alba, Ilaria (+Danillo) & Giada...your names served us well!

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 11 Jun 2011 - 16:50

@Professor Voodoo wrote:After using the names you'd declared for so long this is going to take some getting used to (and a good deal of story editing).

Farewell Alba, Ilaria (+Danillo) & Giada...your names served us well!

Yeah, since Once Again will take place in my original OC universe, I have decided to keep my original names from that universe and use their canon names in Pactio.

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Re: The Other Generation Two Girls [ Gattonero | Soni | Fleccia ]

Post by tremec6speed on Sat 11 Jun 2011 - 19:48

Professor Voodoo wrote: 'But you're the Lauro expert...we were expecting you to write that!'
I'd like to, but I got too many of 'em! (tales that is) Razz
Plus I draw at a snail's pace.........
My latest: "101 ways to skin a runt."
(honestly, someone should feed Elsa to the Padania Piranhas)


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Post by Schaschanist on Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 5:19

@Kiskaloo wrote:So we now have the official names, thanks to the translations of the most recent chapters.




From left to right we have:

Fleccia, cyborg to Yarrow
Gattonero, cyborg to Lupa
Petrushka, cyborg to Alessandro Ricci
Soni, cyborg to Fio
So finally they all got names eh? Is it true, I cannot believe it.
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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 6:23

@tremec6speed wrote:(honestly, someone should feed Elsa to the Padania Piranhas)
I don't know what you're complaining about...pigtails are easy to draw.

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Post by tremec6speed on Tue 14 Jun 2011 - 5:18

Professor Voodoo wrote: 'I don't know what you're complaining about...pigtails are easy to draw.'
I gotta work on that.
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Post by Nachtsider on Tue 14 Jun 2011 - 5:42

Braids, pigtails and ponytails. Learn how to differentiate them.

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