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Post by MP5 on Wed 10 Nov 2010 - 1:29

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Gold plated 599GTB.

Michele: You have got to be kidding me.

Matthew: Damn! Now that's what I'm talkin' bout! Now we just need to add some 22's, Lambo doors, and a dope-ass sound system with 20 speakers!

Elsewhere...

Allison and Kara shudder in unison.

Allison: Did you feel that?

Kara: Yeah...

Allison: Good, I'm not the only one with a sudden urge to violently murder Matthew for committing crimes against aesthetics. Though that is an oddly specific urge...

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Post by zarien85 on Wed 10 Nov 2010 - 16:56

lol

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 15 Nov 2010 - 4:35

I don't have a goofy way to tie cyborgs into this...I just thought this was an impressive, albeit pointless piece of work.


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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 15 Nov 2010 - 12:24

A Wooden Engine?

That wouldn't run cause it wouldn't start...

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 15 Nov 2010 - 18:57

@ElfenMagix wrote:A Wooden Engine?

That wouldn't run cause it wouldn't start...
You've just made me waste a lot of time thinking about that. Electrical parts of course would have to me made of metal, as wood is a very poor conductor of spark. Apart from that it might actually be possible to build a reciprocating piston engine out of wood.

It would have to be very low compression...so low that it might not produce enough torque to overcome its own internal friction. For that reason I'd try a single or a V-twin before a complex V-12. Your next issue would be with valve springs, but that could be resolved by using a desmodromic valve train like on Ducati's. They use no springs, there are 2 lobes on the cam for each valve, one pushes a rocker arm that opens the valve, one pushes the rocker to close it.

If you did actually get it to fire up I see no reason why it couldn't run for a few seconds before it was destroyed by heat. Care to give it a try, Allison?

Allison: Hell no...it's still a stupid idea.

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Post by zarien85 on Mon 15 Nov 2010 - 19:19

cheers

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 15 Nov 2010 - 20:21

It would make a nice model on a shelf in Michele's apartment.

I wonder if it came from this?



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Post by Alfisti on Mon 15 Nov 2010 - 21:20

@Professor Voodoo wrote: Your next issue would be with valve springs, but that could be resolved by using a desmodromic valve train like on Ducati's. They use no springs, there are 2 lobes on the cam for each valve, one pushes a rocker arm that opens the valve, one pushes the rocker to close it.
I almost wonder if it wouldn't be better to go with a rotating cylinder liner rather than traditional valves. Less small parts to break for a starter (tiny little lifter arms for the desmodromic valves... difficult to make out of wood). For a block I don't think you could use fresh wood, but if you could get a hold of some old hardwood beams (that have had time to get really hard) it might well be able to take the compression loads... you know, before catching on fire like you said.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 15 Nov 2010 - 21:38

@Alfisti wrote: I almost wonder if it wouldn't be better to go with a rotating cylinder liner rather than traditional valves. Less small parts to break for a starter (tiny little lifter arms for the desmodromic valves... difficult to make out of wood). For a block I don't think you could use fresh wood, but if you could get a hold of some old hardwood beams (that have had time to get really hard) it might well be able to take the compression loads... you know, before catching on fire like you said.
You've got me thinking along different lines here...why not just go with a side-valve flathead engine? It would still have to be 4-stroke...you'd need that cooling cycle to make it last longer than a few seconds.

As for the block I nominate Lignum-vitae wood...which used to be carved into ball bearings during the wooden ship days.

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Post by MP5 on Mon 15 Nov 2010 - 22:38

A few days later...

Allison: All right, we built the prototype. Now, we are going to test this, Mythbusters style. We are going to activate it remotely, and the engine itself is inside a safe blast chamber separating ourselves from potential wooden shrapnel. Fiona, would you do the honors?

Fiona: (gripping the ignition key) Wooden V-12 engine test in 3...2...1.

(She turns the key, the engine fires perfectly without catching on fire. however, when they rev the engine...)

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 15 Nov 2010 - 22:40

@Professor Voodoo wrote:
@ElfenMagix wrote:A Wooden Engine?

That wouldn't run cause it wouldn't start...
You've just made me waste a lot of time thinking about that. Electrical parts of course would have to me made of metal, as wood is a very poor conductor of spark. Apart from that it might actually be possible to build a reciprocating piston engine out of wood.
As I remember, the basics start here...
http://woodgears.ca/air_engine/old.html

Unless you want to sleeve the internals in metal like the Clay Engines are being built on.

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Post by Awinnell on Tue 16 Nov 2010 - 10:15

if wood fails try Graphite

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 13 Dec 2010 - 22:40

Jean Croce: "Due to the inclement weather, all operations have been shelved for today. All handlers and cyborgs are released from any official duties."

Kara rushes back to her room, grabs a set of keys, and rushes down to the parking lot.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Tue 14 Dec 2010 - 0:14

@Kiskaloo wrote: Kara: "Damn!"
Claes: What's the big deal? Just get a broom and sweep the snow off.

Kara: And risk scratching the paint? No Way! I'm not doing anything that could possibly make Michele mad at me. (mumbling last part under her breath) Not this close to Christmas.

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Kara: With a hair-dryer?

Marisa: Or a blowtorch!

Kara: That would be faster...

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Post by Officer_Charon on Tue 14 Dec 2010 - 0:26

It wouldn't be so bad, but when Kara FINALLY gets all the snow off...

... that's when Marisa decides it would be a good idea to gather up snow from the roof and toss it over the edge, onto the freshly-cleaned car.

Kara:.....

Marisa: *big ol' grin*

Kara: ...... *ka-CHAK*

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Post by zarien85 on Tue 14 Dec 2010 - 20:48

keep all sharp objects away from Kara

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Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 22 Dec 2010 - 15:06

Peter Griffin: "Lois, everyone has their sanctuaries. The Catholics have their churches. Fat people have Wisconsin. I have the Pawtuckett Brewery and Kara has Ferrari!"



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Post by zarien85 on Fri 24 Dec 2010 - 19:22

ROFLCOPTER!

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 27 Dec 2010 - 10:05

First pic of Ferrari's new GT2 contender for 2011...


...and in other news;


Kara: It was fixed! I demand a re-match!

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Post by Alfisti on Mon 27 Dec 2010 - 10:31

Forgot that this thing automatically jumps to the first page of a thread for me rather than the last, so hence hit this post again:

@Professor Voodoo wrote:You've got me thinking along different lines here...why not just go with
a side-valve flathead engine? It would still have to be
4-stroke...you'd need that cooling cycle to make it last longer than a
few seconds.

As for the block I nominate Lignum-vitae wood...which used to be carved into ball bearings during the wooden ship days.

I dunno, I still think the rotating liner's the way to go. It's still a 4-stroke and a sidevalve still needs traditional valves... which are by their nature spindly and, in wood, probably quite fragile. However, by the same token the rotating liner has more mechanical friction.

Actually, to be honest I don't think you could use any traditional valve configuration. Perhaps a variation on the side-valve but with valves that slide out of the way (like the doors in Star Trek) rather than lift... hence eliminating the spindly valve stem. As for moving them, a mix between the desmodromic system and the hydraulic lifters found on the old Rover V8.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 27 Dec 2010 - 10:52

@Professor Voodoo wrote:...and in other news;


Kara: It was fixed! I demand a re-match!
Rachel: YEEEEEESSS! *Does a happy dance* A FERRARI! GOT BEATEN! A FERRARI! GOT BEATEN! A FERRARI! GOT BEATEN!

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Post by Awinnell on Mon 27 Dec 2010 - 11:58

@Alfisti wrote:Forgot that this thing automatically jumps to the first page of a thread for me rather than the last, so hence hit this post again:

@Professor Voodoo wrote:You've got me thinking along different lines here...why not just go with
a side-valve flathead engine? It would still have to be
4-stroke...you'd need that cooling cycle to make it last longer than a
few seconds.

As for the block I nominate Lignum-vitae wood...which used to be carved into ball bearings during the wooden ship days.

I dunno, I still think the rotating liner's the way to go. It's still a 4-stroke and a sidevalve still needs traditional valves... which are by their nature spindly and, in wood, probably quite fragile. However, by the same token the rotating liner has more mechanical friction.

Actually, to be honest I don't think you could use any traditional valve configuration. Perhaps a variation on the side-valve but with valves that slide out of the way (like the doors in Star Trek) rather than lift... hence eliminating the spindly valve stem. As for moving them, a mix between the desmodromic system and the hydraulic lifters found on the old Rover V8.


maybe you could use vacuum actuated valves like the wright brothers did

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 27 Dec 2010 - 14:01

@Professor Voodoo wrote:Kara: It was fixed! I demand a re-match!

Though only seen on his bike once in fiction, Michele and Kara do "two-wheel" it on occasion - Michele on an MV Agusta and Kara on a Ducati. So if anything, Kara would see this as proof her "milquetoast 999" needs to be replaced. Razz

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Post by Alfisti on Fri 21 Jan 2011 - 21:45

Want V12 performance and Italian, 2-door passion... but also want AWD security and need to haul a cyborg, weapons and the occasional dead body?

FFear not... Ferrari has you covered:



2012 will bring with it the Ferrari FF shooting brake.

Personally, as a total sucker for the shooting brake body style: I'm sold.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 21 Jan 2011 - 23:31

So this is the replacement for the 612 Scaglietti...

Kara will be happy. This will be the sixth Ferrari she's taken delivery of, so she now gets her All Access Pass to Fiorano.

More Info: http://www.topgear.com/uk/car-news/ferrari-four-shooting-brake-revealed-2011-01-21

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Post by tremec6speed on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 5:19

"Another Cobra blows past a Ferrari 330 LM/B"
True.
But then again: “The great enemy of the truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived and dishonest – but the myth – persistant, persuasive and unrealistic.”

- John F. Kennedy, Commencement Address, Yale University, 11 June, 1962

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"Octane recently conducted a poll of their readers to select the “Greatest Race Car Ever” (with the Maserati 250F ultimately receiving the accolade). To guide the readers toward machines with suitable pedigrees, a number of automotive luminaries were assigned the task to nominate appropriate candidates. Columnist Carroll Shelby thereupon put forth his own progeny, the AC Cobra.

Upon hearing this news, my mind drifted to years past. I was around when the Cobras were competitive and while I recall them being worthy contenders, I also remember them often struggling on rough or undulating surfaces such as one would encounter at the Nürburgring or Targa Florio. I also could not recall any major outright victories.

Thus, on a chilly evening with little on the agenda, I poured into my glass the remains of a bottle of Vin Jaune, cut some slices from a block of Compté and retrieved the appropriate volumes of Automotive Year and back issues of Autosport. I was consoled to find that my memory had not in fact deceived me.

Regardless, a legend has grown over the intervening decades that paints the Cobra as a sort of Attila the Hun that lay waste to all in its path. Wikipedia states that the Cobra was extremely successful in racing. Another site proclaims: The (Shelby) Daytona Coupe dominated race tracks all over the world.

In my judgement, in order to dominate a race track, one must cross the finish line first, or in the case of the 24 Heures du Mans prior to 1971, travel the furthest distance. History shows that on the world stage, Cobras rarely accomplished either feat.

While often performing with alacrity at regional and national levels; its international sporting record is not so laudable as many believe. In fact, a Cobra ever only won one single race outright in FIA sanctioned international competition. Dan Gurney took the checkered flag at the 500 km of Bridgehampton, the final round of the 1963 season, at the wheel of a 289 Mark I roadster. That was the first, last and only overall win for the Cobra in top echelon motorsport.

Below is a table documenting the Cobra’s best overall finishes in the years it was competing in the Manufacturers’ Championship. The results show a worthy enough record, but a bit insufficient to warrant the sobriquet of Greatest Race Car Ever. Indeed, I have noted numerous instances where the Cobra was vanquished by cars much less adulated in the mainstream automotive media."
Cobra 260/289

Year Venue Place Cause for Humility

1963 Daytona 4th
Sebring 11 Behind two 2-liter 4-cyl Porsche 356B Carreras
Le Mans 7
Bridgehampton 1 & 2
1964 Daytona 4
Sebring 5
Targa Florio 8 Behind a 2-liter 4-cyl Porsche 356B Carrera
Spa 9 Behind three 2-liter 4-cyl Porsche 904’s
Nürburgring 23 Behind two 1.3 liter 4 cyl Abarth-Simca 1300′s
Le Mans 18 Three places behind a 1.6 liter 4-cyl Alfa Giulia TZ
Frieburg 4 Two places behind a 2.0 liter 4-cyl Abarth-Simca
Goodwood 4
Sierra Montagna 4 Behind a 2.0 liter 4-cyl Abarth-Simca 2000 GT
Bridgehampton 4
1965 Daytona 10 Behind two 2-liter 4-cyl Porsche 904’s
Sebring 19 Behind a 2.0-liter 4 cyl Austin-Healey Sebring Sprite
Monza 12 Five places behind a 1.6 liter 4-cyl Alfa Giulia TZ2
Oulton Park 4
Spa 13 Behind two 1.6 liter 4-cyl Alfa Giulia TZs
Rossfeld 10 Behind a 2.0 liter 4-cyl Abarth-Simca
Ollon Villars 12 Four places behind a Fiat-Abarth 1600 OT
Bridgehampton 5
1966 Sebring 15 Behind a 1.6 liter 4-cyl Alfa Giulia TZ2


Cobra 427

1965 Bridgehampton 3
1966 Sebring 10 Three places behind a 2.0-liter 4-cyl Porsche 904


Cobra Daytona Coupe

1964 Sebring 4
Le Mans 4
Goodwood 3
1965 Daytona 2
Sebring 4
Monza 8 Behind a 1.6 liter 4-cyl Alfa Giulia TZ
Oulton Park 7
Spa 5 Two places behind a 2-liter 4-cyl Porsche 904
Nürburgring 7 Behind two 2.0-liter 904’s and a 2.0-liter Dino
Le Mans 8
Reims 5
Coppa Citta 3

All told, over a three-year period, there were only six podium finishes for the Cobra. Without considering the Daytona Coupe, history records only three podiums for the Cobra roadster, the model endlessly replicated by Shelby enthusiasts. The astute reader will also notice that the Coupe, in its drive for the championship crown, never achieved outright victory. When they were not being occasionally usurped by 2.0 liter Porsches, they were defeated by Ferrari prototypes, usually the 250LM.

To bolster his case, Shelby makes note of the fact that the Cobra won the 1965 Manufacturers’ Championship for GT Cars. The Cobra indeed attained this title, but it was all but a fait accompli, as they essentially ran unopposed within their classification. In 1964, Ferrari and Shelby both exploited FIA rules loopholes to run the GTO and the Daytona Coupes in the GT class rather than the more competitive Prototype category. In 1965, Ferrari intended to homologate their new 250LM as a GT car, but it was forced to run as a Prototype because the now more vigilant FIA doubted the ability of Ferraris’ small workshop to produce the required minimum number of cars while simultaneously building their designated Prototypes (the 275P2 and 330P2), the road cars and their Formula One GP cars.

As a result, the Cobra (with the Daytona Coupe leading the way) garnered the 1965 GT Championship, as there was now no more credible competition in the GT Over 3.0-Liter category; and Ferrari won the Prototype Championship and Overall Victory. Thus, the Cobras Manufacturers’ Championship win, while certainly deserved and laudable, was a Trophée de Catégorie, a class win; not overall victory. A bit short of race track domination.



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1 BrianSL on March 8, 2009 said:

Yes, but the Ferrari 250 LM, as you mention, was a Prototype. Is that a proper comparison?
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2 Karl W on March 8, 2009 said:

I believe it is fair. Ask yourself which car actually best met the definition of prototype.

By the end of the 1965 season, Ferrari had manufactured over thirty 250LM’s and sold them to privateers. Shelby built just six Daytona Coupes and didn’t sell any of them. They were only campaigned in-house by Ford affiliates: Shelby, Ford France, Allan Mann Racing and AC Cars.
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3 Richard Preuss on March 17, 2009 said:

J. Kraus: I think you need to do a little more research on the Cobras. Maybe you had too much Vin Jaune. The Cobras faired much better than you set forth in your tribute.

Log on to Wikipedia to see what I’m talking about.

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4 J Kraus on March 18, 2009 said:

I am not sure to which Wikipedia page you refer. All that the English Language AC Cobra page says is that “it was raced successfully by many privateers and went on to win races all the way into the 70′s” – not much specifics there. The French Language page only mentions the 1965 Manufacturers GT Category victory which I referred to in the original article. The German Wikipedia site makes no reference to competition history.

Remember, this posting is discussing competition at the international FIA-sanctioned level – events that each year counted toward the World Championship. As I mentioned, the Cobra certainly some amateur, local and national contests, and most likely a fair share of unsanctioned late night drag race challenges.

If there is a event in which a Cobra claimed overall victory that meets the above criteria and is not mentioned above; I will certainly amend the table accordingly, and send anyone providing the information one (1) 4-ounce package of Carroll Shelby’s Original Texas Chili Mix. Offer good in Western Europe, UK, US and Canada. Limit one per customer.

It was well worth a trip to Wikipedia however. I had no idea that Shelby was marketing “Carroll Shelby’s Pit-Stop Deodorant” for “Real Men” back in the 1960’s!
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5 Gus W on March 18, 2009 said:

Carroll Shelby deodorant! That is too funny. I wonder how high a can of that would be bid up to at Barrett-Jackson.
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6 Hans1 on March 19, 2009 said:

There were two issues with the Cobra. First, the roadsters were not fast enough for circuits with long straights because of their high aerodynamic drag. This is exactly the reason Shelby produced the six low-drag Pete Brock-designed Daytona coupes that, as mentioned, were never sold to the public.

The second was that the cars rarely seemed to perform to their potential under real world conditions. On circuits comprised of public roads (i.e. Nürburgring, Targa Florio, Tour de France) with the attendant bumps, dips, varying surfaces, etc; their record was mediocre. As it shows above, their best finish recorded at the Nürburgring was 7th.

The Targa Florio was subject to an all-out assault by Shelby in 1964 with a five car squad driven by the best talent he could muster including GP stars Dan Gurney, Phil Hill and Masten Gregory; but the best they could do was 8th overall (Gurney). Three of the cars broke down, two from suspension collapse. Shelby never returned.

The old Tour de France was particularly grueling. In addition to the usual perils of public roads, the Tour encompassed several stages requiring full-throttle standing starts. In the 1964 TdF, three of the six Daytona Coupes were entered by Shelby American and Ford France. All retired with mechanical failure.

The best finish I can recall for a Cobra under the rigors of competition on public roads was 2nd at the 1963 Tour de Corse, hard on the heels of the winning Citroën DS 19.
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Post by MP5 on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 10:33

man, that Ferrari FF is tasty. Just looking at the side profile is enough to potentially inspire perverse sexual lust. I think Allison might have a few words to say.

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Post by Awinnell on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 11:18

@MP5 wrote:Claes: Oh dear, this is bad... Jay went to all the effort of cleaning himself up and spritzing on a little cologne, and here's Allison, falling in love with bits of Aluminum and Carbon Fiber... I suggest someone get her away from that now before she starts molesting it.

but isn't Jay also built with aluminium and carbon fibre ?

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Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Post by Alfisti on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 11:27

@Awinnell wrote:
@MP5 wrote:Claes: Oh dear, this is bad... Jay went to all the effort of cleaning himself up and spritzing on a little cologne, and here's Allison, falling in love with bits of Aluminum and Carbon Fiber... I suggest someone get her away from that now before she starts molesting it.

but isn't Jay also built with aluminium and carbon fibre ?
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Post by MP5 on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 21:33

@Alfisti wrote:
@Awinnell wrote:
@MP5 wrote:Claes: Oh dear, this is bad... Jay went to all the effort of cleaning himself up and spritzing on a little cologne, and here's Allison, falling in love with bits of Aluminum and Carbon Fiber... I suggest someone get her away from that now before she starts molesting it.

but isn't Jay also built with aluminium and carbon fibre ?
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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 22 Jan 2011 - 21:56

@MP5 wrote:
@Alfisti wrote:
@Awinnell wrote:
@MP5 wrote:Claes: Oh dear, this is bad... Jay went to all the effort of cleaning himself up and spritzing on a little cologne, and here's Allison, falling in love with bits of Aluminum and Carbon Fiber... I suggest someone get her away from that now before she starts molesting it.
but isn't Jay also built with aluminium and carbon fibre ?
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Re: Scuderia Ferrari

Post by Awinnell on Sun 23 Jan 2011 - 7:28

by the way, the internationally agreed upon spelling is Aluminium
The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) officially standardised on aluminium in 1990,to bring it in line with the other 55 elements ending in ' ium '


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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 23 Jan 2011 - 10:04

@Awinnell wrote:by the way, the internatinally agreed upon spelling is Aluminium
The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) officially standardised on aluminium in 1990,to bring it in line with the other 55 elements ending in ' ium '

You Brits still pronounce it funny. Razz

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Post by Alfisti on Sun 23 Jan 2011 - 10:39

@Kiskaloo wrote:
@Awinnell wrote:by the way, the internatinally agreed upon spelling is Aluminium
The International Union of Pure and Applied Chemistry (IUPAC) officially standardised on aluminium in 1990,to bring it in line with the other 55 elements ending in ' ium '

You Brits still pronounce it funny. Razz
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Post by Awinnell on Sun 23 Jan 2011 - 10:52

the same guys also said we should spell sulfur rather than sulphur,its all Websters fault !

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Post by Alfisti on Sun 23 Jan 2011 - 11:40

@Awinnell wrote:the same guys also said we should spell sulfur rather than sulphur,its all Websters fault !
Damn that Webster... I prefer my dictionary to be written by insane people.

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Post by Awinnell on Sun 23 Jan 2011 - 12:41

@Alfisti wrote: Damn that Webster... I prefer my dictionary to be written by insane people.

he kinda was a bit odd,not insane, but driven,

The difference in spelling, and the current controversy resulting from it, must be laid at the feet of the late Noah Webster, a humourless and deeply religious schoolmaster cum failed lawyer who, after 15 years’ work, published his American Dictionary of the English Language in 1828. One cannot imagine an individual less well suited to the creation of a dictionary; he knew very little of other languages, his ideas about etymology were based more on religion and wishful thinking than historical fact (he thought all languages derived from ancient Chaldee), and he had this bee in his bonnet about simplifying the language by removing unnecessary letters from words.

His most influential book was not the Dictionary, but the earlier American Spelling Book, which went through about three hundred editions during his lifetime and after. This was very conventional by the standards of his day. It was only later that he began to advocate spelling reform, especially in a piece that had the splendid title An Essay on the Necessity, Advantages and Practicability of Reforming the Mode of Spelling, and of Rendering the Orthography of Words Correspondent to the Pronunciation, published in 1789.

His aim was to remove all extraneous letters from words and he put forward a whole range of suggestions to this end. His aim was also political: he wanted to make American orthography distinctive and through this to help weld the disparate 13 founding colonies into a nation. By 1806, though, when he published his first dictionary, he had backtracked on the more outlandish of his ideas, saying “it would be useless to attempt any change, even if practicable, in those anomalies which form whole classes of words, and in which, change would rather perplex than ease the learner” (still a strong argument against spelling reform).

Because of his spelling revisions in the 1828 dictionary, Americans now write color, jewelry, theater and aluminum, as well as sulfur. Had it not been for the conservatism of his readers and publisher — and a “dictionary war” with a rival — that forced him to modify his views, Americans would also now have tuf (for tough), groop (for group) and tung (for tongue) among many others.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 30 Jan 2011 - 21:00

Elio: "I knew it was a mistake to choose the Paganis to assist with the stakeout..."

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Post by Awinnell on Mon 31 Jan 2011 - 2:37

i wouldn't mind that transit van from the Top Gear ashes on my delivery this morning !

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 31 Jan 2011 - 11:54

@Awinnell wrote:i wouldn't mind that transit van from the Top Gear ashes on my delivery this morning !

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 6 Mar 2011 - 12:46

Ferrari unveiled the production version of the FF at the Geneva Motor Show:





Looks pretty good in the aluminum.

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Post by crazyidiot78 on Sun 6 Mar 2011 - 13:58

Eh the car is nice but I'd rather have the chick standing next to it
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Post by MP5 on Sun 6 Mar 2011 - 14:12

@Kiskaloo wrote:Ferrari unveiled the production version of the FF at the Geneva Motor Show:





Looks pretty good in the aluminum.

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Post by Alfisti on Mon 7 Mar 2011 - 3:56

@Kiskaloo wrote:Ferrari unveiled the production version of the FF at the Geneva Motor Show:





Looks pretty good in the aluminum.
Hottest. Hatch. Ever.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 13 Mar 2011 - 4:24

Top Gear Italy puts their Stars in Unreasonably Priced Cars (i.e. exotics) so when Britney Kensington was a guest, they made sure to have a special model brought in:


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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 13 Mar 2011 - 4:59

It could be worse...it could always be worse.

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Post by MP5 on Sun 13 Mar 2011 - 9:35

@Kiskaloo wrote:Top Gear Italy puts their Stars in Unreasonably Priced Cars (i.e. exotics) so when Britney Kensington was a guest, they made sure to have a special model brought in:


Darn it all Kisk, now I have a decision to make-- "A-Lister in a B-List Auto," or "Star in an UNreasonably Priced Car?"

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Post by Alfisti on Sun 27 Mar 2011 - 1:19

Sorta on topic...



Enzo, 1965.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 31 Mar 2011 - 23:11

Kara's dream Track Day:


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Post by MP5 on Thu 31 Mar 2011 - 23:34

@Kiskaloo wrote:Kara's dream Track Day:


One that Allison would gladly join in on.

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@Kiskaloo wrote:Kara's dream Track Day:
Ferro's pointer stick comes crashing down on Kara's desk...
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Post by ChaosKin640 on Fri 1 Apr 2011 - 5:20

Such beautiful, beautiful machines. Hawt!
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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 19 Apr 2011 - 14:52

While the Ferrari FF has an amazing four-wheel drive system, when an avalanche blocks the main road to your favorite ski resort in the Italian Alps, you have to find alternatives:

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Tue 19 Apr 2011 - 15:16

@Kiskaloo wrote:the Ferrari FF has an amazing four-wheel drive system
Michele: For the last time; NO you can not enter my FF in the Rally of Sweden!




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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 22 May 2011 - 13:14

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Post by Officer_Charon on Sun 22 May 2011 - 16:09

Ilaria: Trust me... she's Japanese, wears short skirts and thigh-high stockings... I doubt Michele is going to mind. Much.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 22 May 2011 - 19:47

The new Ferrari 599 SA Aperta Targa:





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Hers and His:





SWA Parking Lot:





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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 12 Jun 2011 - 20:24

Kara spends the day at the beach:



While Michele spends it at the track:


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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 28 Jul 2011 - 12:35

Kara: "So this place has air conditioning, room service and a spa, right?"


Ferrari FF

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