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Post by Robert Frazer on Mon 14 Jun 2010 - 11:16

A fair while back - sometime last year - one of us posted up some scans of the "Vercingetorix Invasions" 4koma comics (if it helps jog your memory, it involved Claes getting help in the garden from a troop of gnomes). As the search function on this forum doesn't actually work, could I bother you all to post them back up again? Sorry for the inconvenience.

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Mon 14 Jun 2010 - 13:13

@Robert Frazer wrote:A fair while back - sometime last year - one of us posted up some scans of the "Vercingetorix Invasions" 4koma comics (if it helps jog your memory, it involved Claes getting help in the garden from a troop of gnomes). As the search function on this forum doesn't actually work, could I bother you all to post them back up again? Sorry for the inconvenience.

The thing about the search function is that its run through google. You can actually use Google to search the forums. Example; when you want to do a search on Garden Gnomes in the forums type this into google:
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Garden Gnomes site:http://gunslinger-girl.up-with.com

I think it's handy to note that goggle can see just as much as a unregistered person. IOW: Google can search the public forums, but the sections that require special user permissions like our Scanlation sections it cannot access.

In anycase, I dunno if anyone still has backups on their PC, but of so you can always go through the threads manually. its gotta be in the scanlation section somewhere.


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I found it "New" Gunslinger Girl series posted in the Manga Scanlations and RAWs by KodokuRyuu

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Post by KodokuRyuu on Mon 14 Jun 2010 - 18:49

Oh yeah, that thing. Guess I never finished that. The raws were actually by Sakura. I believe I have the translation finished, so I'll take a look at it this week and see if I can put it up.
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Post by Tommygunner70 on Tue 15 Jun 2010 - 0:41

@KodokuRyuu wrote:Oh yeah, that thing. Guess I never finished that. The raws were actually by Sakura. I believe I have the translation finished, so I'll take a look at it this week and see if I can put it up.

Well I don't have all the raws.
But if you can provide me with the the translations and a link to the raws, I'll turn out some scanlations.

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Post by KodokuRyuu on Tue 15 Jun 2010 - 0:46

Sweet, that would be much better than me doing it. Razz I think I actually finished one of them, but it was a pain 'cause the background was rather yellow.
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Post by Tommygunner70 on Tue 15 Jun 2010 - 0:51

@KodokuRyuu wrote:Sweet, that would be much better than me doing it. Razz I think I actually finished one of them, but it was a pain 'cause the background was rather yellow.

Lol, yeah I know what you mean.

Anyways, give me the links through the PM system and I'll get working on that ASAP.

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Post by Sakura on Tue 15 Jun 2010 - 1:46

Holy cow, I remember those! I think I still have the original copies I scanned from the magazine so if you need a larger version let me know.

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Tue 15 Jun 2010 - 7:32

@Sakura wrote:Holy cow, I remember those! I think I still have the original copies I scanned from the magazine so if you need a larger version let me know.

You got larger versions?
Of course we'll need it!

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Post by Robert Frazer on Tue 15 Jun 2010 - 18:27

I would be interested in larger scans as well.

The reason why I brought this topic up now is because I was hitting up Seven Seas Entertainment on what extras we might hope to find once they publish the new English editions - the one who replied to me claimed to know nothing about the Vercingetorix Invasions, so if I can show him otherwise we might be able to enjoy some extra content!

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Post by Sakura on Tue 15 Jun 2010 - 21:28

Here you go. Hope they are large enough.

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Tue 15 Jun 2010 - 22:03

Yeah those will do, thanks Sakura.

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Post by Nachtsider on Tue 15 Jun 2010 - 22:52

I find myself wondering what the significance of that title is.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Tue 15 Jun 2010 - 23:27

@Nachtsider wrote:I find myself wondering what the significance of that title is.
Vercingetorix is apperantly the name of the gnome that has "invaded" Claes' garden.

In real life Vercingetorix was a Gallic chief who at first co-operated with Julius Caeser, then fought against him. He had considerably less success than his German counterpart Arminuis (who defeated the Romans at the Teutoburg Forest about 50-60 years later, effectively stopping the northward spread of the Roman Empire). Vercingetorix was captured and taken to Rome, where he died rather horribly, as captured enemy leaders were wont to do back then.


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Post by Awinnell on Wed 16 Jun 2010 - 6:37

he lost because he got stuck in a hillfort,you can't beat an enemy from a static position and the Romans had a lot of experience in dealing with hillforts,add to that the differences in fighting styles and it was a walkover for the Imperial army,lets face it anyone who thinks blue bodypaint makes good armour is a bit nuts!

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Wed 16 Jun 2010 - 14:30

@Awinnell wrote:he lost because he got stuck in a hillfort,you can't beat an enemy from a static position and the Romans had a lot of experience in dealing with hillforts,add to that the differences in fighting styles and it was a walkover for the Imperial army,lets face it anyone who thinks blue bodypaint makes good armour is a bit nuts!
Interesting, the article I was reading was short on details like that. I was also unaware that the Gauls wore blue paint...I'd always considered that more of a Pictish thing. See, you can learn something new on the internet.

Right after Braveheart made so much money Christopher Lambert starred in a mediocre movie about Vercingetorix, but I wouldn't go looking toward that as historically acurate.

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Post by Awinnell on Wed 16 Jun 2010 - 14:41

the Gauls were Celts,

The warrior class
Most primitive societies had a warrior class: both the early Greeks and the Romans did. The Celts were no exception. Their warriors were drawn from what we would describe as the middle and upper class. The warrior class did the actual fighting: the free poor served as chariot drivers. The Celt was a warrior in the heroic sense. Everything had to be larger than life. He lived for war. His glorification of bravery often led him to recklessness. Part of a warriors ritual was to boast of his victories, and fighting between warriors was an important part of life.

Armour and weapons
Most Celts scorned the use of armour and before about 300 B.C. preferred to fight naked. Some Celtic tribes still fought naked at the battle of Telamon in 225 B.C. The Celt was renowned as a swords-man but he also used javelins and spears. Two spears which were found at La Tene in Switzerland were nearly 2.5m long. His only protection was his large shield which was usually oval. The suggestion that the Celt wore heavy bracelets in battle has to be questioned, as it is hard to understand how they would stay on his arm whilst he wielded his sword. Dionysius tells us that in battle the Celts whirled their swords above their heads, slashing the air from side to side, then struck downwards at their enemies as if chopping wood. It was this use of the sword that so terrified their enemies. The Celts did not fight in a rabble as is so often supposed. They were organized in companies. This can be proved by their use of standards.

Headhunters
The Celt was a head-hunter. In battle he would cut off the head of his fallen enemy and often hang it from his horse's neck. After battle he would display the severed head at the entrance to his temple. The severed head is a constant theme in Celtic art. At the battle of Beneventumin 214 B.C. the Roman general Gracchus had to order his army of freed slaves (presumably Celts) to stop collecting heads and get on with the fighting. After a battle the Celts would often dedicate their enemies weapons to the gods and throw them into a river or lake. The hundreds of weapons that have been dredged from the Lake of Neuchatel at La Tene were such offerings. In fact the site at La Tene has revealed so many Celtic artifacts that its name has been given to the whole Celtic culture.

The chiefs
The chiefs and the wealthiest Celts often did wear armour particularly when they came into contact with the Greeks and Romans. They often adopted items of Greek or Roman armour. A pair of greaves were found in the chieftain's grave at Ciumesti. Several graves have been found in Northern Italy which contain Etruscan armour and Celtic weapons. Before a battle the chiefs would ride out, in front of the army clashing their weapons on their shields, proclaiming their great deeds and challenging the enemy to single combat. Caesar describes the British as dressed in skins (meaning leather) and decorated with woad, a blue dye. Some tattooed skin from a Scythian grave of this period suggests that the Britons were tattooed in blue.

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