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Post by MP5 on Thu 20 Jan 2011 - 7:45

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I like to think that Triela can rock an electric guitar like nobody's business.

Hm... If I could draw, I would take this as a cue to put up a pic of Triela dressed as Slash having a rock-off with Allison dressed as Eddie Van Halen.

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 20 Jan 2011 - 8:03

Claes at the piano? Is it somewhere shown in the manga?

If yes, then I like the idea of Emi and Claes playing piano while Emi is singing to the melody.


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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 20 Jan 2011 - 8:06

schaschanist wrote:Claes at the piano? Is it somewhere shown in the manga?

Both the manga and in the second anime series.

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 20 Jan 2011 - 8:14

Really? Which chapter in the manga?

I want to see that with my own eyes.

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Post by Guest on Thu 20 Jan 2011 - 8:15

Here is the picture. It bottom-right. You see that? Sorry, I don't know where is the manga chapter is.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 20 Jan 2011 - 8:18

schaschanist wrote:Really? Which chapter in the manga?

Chapter 18: "Tiny Joy, Tearless Grief"

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Post by Alfisti on Thu 20 Jan 2011 - 9:46

schaschanist wrote:Hi Folks.
Last Sunday I was on a classical concert in Rome.
Unbelievable who i saw there.
Emilie and Etienne.
He was completely bored the whole concert, but Emilie was happy and freaked out totally as they played "La Campanella" by Franz Liszt.
A reward for a job well done?

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 20 Jan 2011 - 13:44

Hmm,
Maybe a reward for work or maybe just for fun.
He never gets bad, he's always trying to keep her happy.

Emilie loves classical music, so Etienne decided to visit the opera, even if it's absolutely nothing for him.

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Post by Schaschanist on Sun 30 Jan 2011 - 16:13

Hey Folks,

Unfortunately I wrote down some chapters or parts of chapters or some concepts without any translation.

But I have written down a (yet untranslated) chapter i called 'revelation'.
So far: Emilie was hurt heavily by protecting Etienne against a bomb explosion. As result for the near to death experience and Etienne's reward for that action, she asked for their history and relationship and Etienne told her the reason why he had chosen her as his cyborg girl.
And she said a deep from heart coming "I love you" for the very first time to her Handler.


And i thought about the idea to introduce new OCs (not sure if only a new cyborg alone or a new fratello) for my story.
But i'm not sure about that.
I have to think about the basics of the characters (look, history, nationality, ...) or the relation to my existing OCs.

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Post by Danjo3 on Wed 2 Feb 2011 - 2:18

Tommygunner70 wrote:Dunno if you've tried it yet but, I find the best way to create OC's and other assorted characters is by running them through a Marry Sue test after being created in order to polish the character.

There are two I use, one complex and one simple.
Simple: http://www.katfeete.net/writing/marysue.php
Complex: http://springhole.net/quizzes/marysue.htm

Might be good to give it a try.
I don’t know how I missed this the first time around, but I just now took it:

In general, you care deeply about Britney, but you're smart enough to let her stand on her own, without burdening her with your personal fantasies or propping her up with idealization and over-dramatization. Britney is a healthy character with a promising career ahead of her.

I have to admit, some of those boxes were hard to check. Example - Everyone except the bad guys thinks Britney is hot.
Even the bad guys think she's hot.


I think the simple test was far too kind.The complex test looks a little daunting, and it’s late, so I think I’ll save it for another time.


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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 3 Feb 2011 - 17:04

Yesterday i was a bit bored.
so i began to draw my oc Emilie (or i tried it).
This is the (unfnished) result

i really don't know what i can do with her right hand.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Fri 4 Feb 2011 - 0:37

A head.
Speaking of which, she looks different from how you originally. But it still looks good.

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Post by theprodigalson on Fri 4 Feb 2011 - 11:26

Have her shooting the bird. Uhh, that means giving the middle finger. "Shooting the bird" could be an English colloquialism that could cause some amusing misunderstandings...

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Fri 4 Feb 2011 - 11:36

theprodigalson wrote:Have her shooting the bird. Uhh, that means giving the middle finger.
Example...

Mama Galati (another of my OC's) gives her opinion of the Padania.

The "fuck you" gesture is different in Italy, and I have no idea what it is in Belgium.

How would Etienne respond to his cyborg issuing such an uncouth gesture (maybe she learned it from the other girls in the dorm)? Would he think it was funny or be angry with her?

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Post by theprodigalson on Fri 4 Feb 2011 - 12:07

I solved the colloquialism problem with another colloquialism...pretty sharp. Pretty sharp.

What I would like about it is her expression. She either has no idea what it means and is innocently telling Etienne how much she "loves him", or she knows exactly what it means and is about to do something very unpleasant with that knife...

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 4 Feb 2011 - 20:14

Shooting the bird would be out of character for this girl, methinks.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Fri 4 Feb 2011 - 22:37

But holding the severed head of a dead Padania terrorist is not.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Fri 4 Feb 2011 - 23:01

ElfenMagix wrote:But holding the severed head of a dead Padania terrorist is not.
Marisa: Actually, that's kinda something I'd do.

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Post by Officer_Charon on Fri 4 Feb 2011 - 23:30

Option A: "Alas, poor Padan... I knew him, Etienne. A man of immense flatulence and infinite stupidity..."

Option B: An apple.

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Post by theprodigalson on Sat 5 Feb 2011 - 0:04

Nachtsider wrote:Shooting the bird would be out of character for this girl, methinks.

Which is why it's funny to entertain the idea Smile. Besides, I don't think its so out of character for one of the cyborg's to do something they saw without really knowing what it is, particularly the younger ones.

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Post by Schaschanist on Sat 5 Feb 2011 - 15:09

I don't want for Emi to be that vulgar.Razz
In Mission she turns a switch and turns off most of her Emotions to be absolutely objective.
In Freetime she turns again that switch and is emotional but friendly to all.


Actually i have a number of Options, Ideas and Concepts for her.
But the Option i like the most is the Concept of a Cyborg that only wants to be accepted as a human (and not as just a cyborg).
She had accepted the fact that she is a Cyborg (in physical), but the only wish she really has is to be recognized and accepted as a human being.
I already have imagined a few scenarios in which Emilie tries to prove that she is still a human.
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Post by Schaschanist on Sat 5 Feb 2011 - 22:45

Hey Folks,

I know ist a bit late and my mostly tired but i want to tell you something about my whole concept for my Fiction.

The headline i simply had chosen with no special reason was 'New Ways'.
But the more i think about this the more i thinking it was the absolutely best i could have chosen.


I have imagined lots of ideas and concepts during the last weeks and had spoken with some people here about my concepts.
And now i have set some important points of my storyline:

Emi is a 1st gen Cyborg in structure but she's receiving a new kind of conditioning. That conditioning is totally new and will give her a significant longer lifespan.
But no one knows anything about side-effects on the brain or the personality and so Emi is used mostly as a test-subject for behavioral research with no risk to be reconditioned. [SET]

For the first time (weeks and several months) she was more like a normal cyborg but with every experience or conversation she begins more and more to create her own will. She starts thinking about herself and her being.
She worries alot about what she really is. She's a not a girl, she is a cyborg. Emi tried to accept that fact but she never is really happy with that. Cause of that she wants to be accepted as human and not just as a killer-tool. [SET]

But Emilie turns a switch and turns off her emotions in missions to be absolute objective but in freetime she turns on her emotions again. [SET]

The relationship she and her handler Etienne are having is not the typical cyborg-handler-relationship, for them it's absolutely like 'father and daughter'. It's mostly cause Etienne saved Emilie, the daughter of his died childhood friend, as a last promise to his died friend and took care of her. [SET]

She always fighting for recognition and acceptance as a human (and not as just a cyborg she physically is) and tries to prove it with a lot of actings and gestures or conversations. [SET]

Later she met a boy of her age (the age she looks like or maybe as old as her) outside the dormitory at the Trevi fountain in the city of Rome. At their first meetings they only smiled at each other for several time. But after a little while they had small-talked a bit and Emi started to fell in love with him.
But knowing what she is and thinking about what she wants to be she decided to hide her dark secret (that she's cyborg and assassin) prior him not to loose her first 'Love'. [SET]



So that is so far that what i have imagined and set till now.
There are some very unusual ideas but thats what i have chosen for her.
A cyborg who felt in with a boy and not his handler sounds weird but I had picked up the idea Yuu already had in the early chapters with Rico. He had killed that idea in the same chapter in which he hat introduced it but i think this could be an interesting part.
So i will try to figure that out more and more and set it as an important part for the later story.

And also the idea of a Cyborg that always wants to be accepted as a human is an interesting idea.
It shows more deepness of a character in that situation and the inner conflict with it.

I don't know what other are doing in their Fictions but i think i'm going to go new ways with 'New Ways'.
It's funny, a mindlessly chosen headline is now fitting better than everything else.
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Post by Guest on Sun 6 Feb 2011 - 11:06

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Post by Schaschanist on Sun 6 Feb 2011 - 11:49

Some more facts i want to add:

Emi has joint the agency near to her 13th birthday. [SET]

She was at the beginning of puberty, is not very developed but she already has little breasts and sparse pubic hair. So she's she has entered the path of getting a woman.
And maybe cause of that she is a different to handle.
That could be the reason why she's starting her own 'thing', getting independent, starts worrying about herself, wants to be accepted as a human and fell in love with a boy of her age. [SET]


And something i thought about this morning.
I'm not a big fan of the Idea of Code-Numbers for the Cyborgs (like XC-12-A1 for example), but i'm thinking to pick up that idea, convert it and use it as part for a chapter/scene of my fiction.
Maybe ALL Cyborgs have their own Code as a little Tattoo on their body. I'm thinking of a place somewhere on their backside, near the ass on the coccyx. a place that is hided most of the time with skirts, trousers or panties.
If i choose to pick up that thought, i'm imagining that this Code could get Emi in little trouble with her boyfriend outside the agency. I already have noticed that situation in my sketch-book and note-pads.

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Post by Alfisti on Tue 8 Feb 2011 - 4:52

schaschanist wrote:Maybe ALL Cyborgs have their own Code as a little Tattoo on their body. I'm thinking of a place somewhere on their backside, near the ass on the coccyx. a place that is hided most of the time with skirts, trousers or panties.
If i choose to pick up that thought, i'm imagining that this Code could get Emi in little trouble with her boyfriend outside the agency. I already have noticed that situation in my sketch-book and note-pads.
Hmm, probably not something Monty would go in for. Not through any form of prudishness mind (though tattoo's are kinda uncouth in her book), but simply because she and Jethro are under slightly more pressure to make sure they cannot be linked back to the Agency than a fratello operating primarially inside Italy would be. Those operating domestically probably don't risk causing an international incident if caught by the local authorities.

If they do slip up and get caught by a foreign power, anyone sent after them is probably more likely to be under orders to dispose of the evidence than for rescue.

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Post by Nachtsider on Tue 8 Feb 2011 - 6:09

Unless, of course, more than one foreign power is in cahoots with the Agency. That would simplify things considerably.

I like the tattoo idea, but my ideal placement for a tattoo would be in the axillary area. You know, under the arm. Like the SS blood group tattoos.

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Post by Officer_Charon on Tue 8 Feb 2011 - 6:53

Not too bad... like a meat tag, but less prominent

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Post by Alfisti on Tue 8 Feb 2011 - 7:54

Nachtsider wrote:Unless, of course, more than one foreign power is in cahoots with the Agency. That would simplify things considerably.
Sadly not something that the Blackers can generally rely on. Jethro can sometimes blag a bit of off-the-books help from friendlier parts of MI6, but otherwise they tend to work on "maximum paranoia" basis and on the assumption that most foreign powers are not going to be welcoming, even the friendly ones.

I guess my own take on the GSG universe is that the world in general is somewhat more hostile and that Italy would prefer if the cyborg program remained a state secret.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Tue 8 Feb 2011 - 10:37

I don't think an external mark like a tattoo serves any real purpose.
Everyone in the SWA knows who each cyborg is...and anyone outside has no business knowing who the cyborgs are.

I do think it's likely that the cyborgs carry a radio frequency identification tag under theur skin. This is what people are talking about when they say they are "Microchipping" their pet.

If a police department finds a non-responsive cyborg (dead or incapacitated) they only have to scan her body with readily available technology. This is not science fiction...it's already in use.

The RFIT tag replies to the scanner on its own frequency, which is then checked against an online database. For the SWA that would lead to a message like "If found please contact Social Welfare Agency; Rome, Italia" with a contact number for the public front.

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Post by Schaschanist on Tue 8 Feb 2011 - 14:58

The RFID idea is more than plausible.
But you have forgotten something: If a dead body is arriving at a forensic, i don't think that anybody is thinking about to scan in hope there is a FRID-Chip.
So i would say, they start an autopsy on that body till they find carbon-made bones, and other cybertronical stuff.

Maybe they have both, a Tattoo and the RFID-Chip to identify them.
But i thought that 'Tattoo' is not bigger that 10x4m Millimeters or even smaller for example, so it's appearing more like a mole or birthmark from a farer point of view
That small that it's almost not there till you look at it close enough.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Tue 8 Feb 2011 - 18:14

schaschanist wrote:Some more facts i want to add:

Emi has joint the agency near to her 13th birthday. [SET]

She was at the beginning of puberty, is not very developed but she already has little breasts and sparse pubic hair. So she's she has entered the path of getting a woman.
And maybe cause of that she is a different to handle.
That could be the reason why she's starting her own 'thing', getting independent, starts worrying about herself, wants to be accepted as a human and fell in love with a boy of her age. [SET]


And something i thought about this morning.
I'm not a big fan of the Idea of Code-Numbers for the Cyborgs (like XC-12-A1 for example), but i'm thinking to pick up that idea, convert it and use it as part for a chapter/scene of my fiction.
Maybe ALL Cyborgs have their own Code as a little Tattoo on their body. I'm thinking of a place somewhere on their backside, near the ass on the coccyx. a place that is hided most of the time with skirts, trousers or panties.
If i choose to pick up that thought, i'm imagining that this Code could get Emi in little trouble with her boyfriend outside the agency. I already have noticed that situation in my sketch-book and note-pads.
Too late, every cyborg has an ID number which the medical team and other certain parts of the SWA uses. It is part of their memories.

Having a tatoo is a stupid idea. Why? what would a child under the age of 16 be doing with one? Especially one that is an ID number? The police, no worse, the news media would have a field day if this were to be discovered. That is the government going to go to cover this up- have every girl under the age of 16 get an identification tattoo? This is not the world of Nuku Nuku All Purpose Cultural Cat Girl where this idea exists.


Professor Voodoo wrote:I don't think an external mark like a tattoo serves any real purpose.
Everyone in the SWA knows who each cyborg is...and anyone outside has no business knowing who the cyborgs are.

I do think it's likely that the cyborgs carry a radio frequency identification tag under theur skin. This is what people are talking about when they say they are "Microchipping" their pet.

If a police department finds a non-responsive cyborg (dead or incapacitated) they only have to scan her body with readily available technology. This is not science fiction...it's already in use.

The RFIT tag replies to the scanner on its own frequency, which is then checked against an online database. For the SWA that would lead to a message like "If found please contact Social Welfare Agency; Rome, Italia" with a contact number for the public front.
I would agree to this at some point. The problems with RFID chips are: A) If there is any code in them, that code can be broken because of the small size of the file must be. B) The RFID chip moves about the body and it does not stay still here you put it. This is more true in cats that it is in dogs but in cases with humans, this is moreso the fact.

When Francesca's parts were found down the revene where Felix was killed, the only problem here is how to you identify a cyborg that was rendered in pieces? Dr. Frankenstein in my universe made sure that the small parts possible were labelled with a specific code that he can identify as his own work. Whether it be a company logo or a complex serial number. It can be done on the microscopic scale, besides recognizing his own work, there was enough identifying marks on the the internal parts of the severed arm to say that it was his and that it belonged to Francesca. The same had to have been done with Beatrice and Silvia with what parts had survived the blasts that destroyed their bodies. An RFID Chip at this point would be useless.

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Post by Schaschanist on Tue 8 Feb 2011 - 18:52

Hmm,
You're right. Everyone at the agency is knowing them or their Number/Code.
And your right with the serial number on the parts used in the cyborgs. In reality it's already done with prosthetics.

But the tattoo-idea was just one thing to let the boyfriend ask about Emilie in that intimate moment,
But hey, the girls are 'military stuff' so it would be logical to mark 'it' somehow.

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You fellas seem to be quite knowledgable in making an oc so I believe you wonderful gentlemen may be able to help me, although I am relativley new to this forum ice been wanting to make an oc for the longest time, I was just wondering how I would go about fabricating an oc and the formalities as well. The help I recurve is much appreciated gentlemen.

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Post by Schaschanist on Wed 9 Feb 2011 - 15:36

Hmm, okay,
I think i have to rethink that scene again, and have to find another reason for the Boy to ask about Emilie.
Maybe he simply found her newest knife:

A Walther BlackTac. (I bought that one yesterday to satisfy my knife-fancy cheers )

Emilie never felt comfortable with herself, but i would say, after she had dome 'Love' with this boy, she was totally happy.
She accepted herself as a 'real girl' and all of the grown tensions, doubts and worries are just "away" now.

Etienne is a very understandingly man and father figure and he's happy about that his little girl is now comfortable with herself.
Cause she simply knows that she is still a real girl, no matter what anybody else is saying.
He already accepted his little girl Emilie long time ago as that what she always wants to be.
So for him, she is a 'daughter-like' girl and not just a Cyborg.
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Post by Professor Voodoo on Wed 9 Feb 2011 - 16:28

schaschanist wrote:
Emilie never felt comfortable with herself, but i would say, after she had dome 'Love' with this boy, she was totally happy.
She accepted herself as a 'real girl' and all of the grown tensions, doubts and worries are just "away" now.

Etienne is a very understandingly man and father figure and he's happy about that his little girl is now comfortable with herself.
Cause she simply knows that she is still a real girl, no matter what anybody else is saying.
He already accepted his little girl Emilie long time ago as that what she always wants to be.
So for him, she is a 'daughter-like' girl and not just a Cyborg.
So if Etienne behaves like a real father how will he react to a real boy calling on his cyborg? Just because he treats Emi like a real girl doesn't mean he would be happy about boys sniffing around his daughter.

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Post by Schaschanist on Wed 9 Feb 2011 - 16:50

He knows, that she can protect herself, he taught her martial arts so if it seems like a raping, i think she really can protect herself best.
And he always wants the best for his 'daughter' so he never will do something that will make her sad/angry/mad. He will refuse himself of preventing Emilie her boyfriend.

I think he is more like a 'single father', happy about that Emi's happiness.

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Post by theprodigalson on Wed 9 Feb 2011 - 17:15

Your call schas. Personally, I would be dragging this kid into an alley and wearing him out with a sackful of oranges because I loved Emilie.

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Post by Schaschanist on Wed 9 Feb 2011 - 17:42

I Already set that they met at the Trevi fountain (Fontana di Trevi).

She carried a bag full of sweets in her arms and was just looking at the fountain as she noticed the boy starring at her. that happened a few times till they stand next to each other and had a 'very little' small-talk. At the end she fled cause of her nervousness about her emotions.

For the first time she was very careful not to touch him. I should add right here, every time she's getting nervous she looses control of her strength and can destroy things or hurts someone easily unintentionally. So she avoided to touch him for the first time.
But the idea of taking her to an Alley is good. maybe i pick it for a date of the two.


Alright, I think i have chosen the Name for the Boyfriend of Emilie out of my list of about 800 boy-names..
I call him 'Emilio'. A normal Italian name for a Boy.
Emilie and Emilio, "Emi & Emi" Doh!

All my OCs are named then with an 'E' at the beginning.
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Post by Nachtsider on Wed 9 Feb 2011 - 19:39

We already had an Emilio in the canon; you know, Rico's crush? It might cause some confusion if you re-used the name.

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Post by Schaschanist on Wed 9 Feb 2011 - 19:45

Cry I know i have heard that name somewhere befor. Now, as you said, i remembering it, Thanks,
Then i should re-think that.
Maybe 'Emiliano' as variation.

I want something with an 'E' at the beginning and I like the idea of 'Emi & Emi', a funny thing.



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Post by Nachtsider on Wed 9 Feb 2011 - 20:40

Ernesto? Efisio? Eliano? Erminio?

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Wed 9 Feb 2011 - 22:08

Whenever I hear a cool Latin/Italian name I write it down for possible future use. The only E name I have on the list is Eliseo.

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 10 Feb 2011 - 6:05

Emiliano is nice, cause then i have the "Emi & Emi"-Thing.
But Eliseo ans Eliano are pretty nice too, "Emi & Eli" also a nice Thing.

I love the idea of shortened Names, so i'm always looking for Names that can be shorten easily.

I'm struggling now with Emiliano or Eliano this time.

Sorry, Eliseo is a nice name but it reminds me more of a Peugeot Mini-Van with a bit similar name here.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Thu 10 Feb 2011 - 12:06

schaschanist wrote:Sorry, Eliseo is a nice name but it reminds me more of a Peugeot Mini-Van with a bit similar name here.
To be honest, I got the name from a Chilean race driver anyway...still sounds Italian enough and apparently the French like it too if Peugeot gave a van the name.

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 10 Feb 2011 - 13:27

It's funny with Car-Names. Every single Model has different names in different countries.
Example Mitsubishi. Here in Europe it's called "Colt", same car in Japan is called "Mirage Cyborg".
Or the Toyota "MR-2", in France there is a different name, cause if you spell MR-2 you say 'Merde' (shit) to a french buyer.


But i would say, Emiliano is the name i choose for Emi's Boyfriend.
And a name-generator has generated me a family-name for him.
So his complete name is 'Emiliano Capriani'

And just to add, Emilie's complete name before she joint the agency was 'Emilie Valerie De Laroque'.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 10 Feb 2011 - 18:28

Emanuel? Enrique? Estephano? Enormous Naughtimus Maximus?

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 10 Feb 2011 - 19:20

I have chosen, Elfen.

The boyfriend is 'Emiliano Capriani'
Her complete name is 'Emilie Valerie De Laroque'
Together they are simply 'Emi and Emi' Doh!

Emilie is knowing her full name, Etienne told it her sometime.
I think it's like Elsa's case.( Her name was 'Elsa De Sica' and i'm the opinion that 'De Sica' was her surname. )
All are knowing it but nobody is calling her.
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Post by Nachtsider on Thu 10 Feb 2011 - 19:40

De Sica was Elsa's surname, all right, but it remains a mystery whether that was her actual surname or one given to her only after she became Lauro's cyborg. You know, like a name she could use as a cover while on operations:

"What's your name, little girl?"

"Elsa de Sica."

It's also debatable whether any of the other cyborgs knew of Elsa's last name. As far as I know, they only seem to know each other on a first-name basis. The fact that she didn't mix much with them might have amplified this further.

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 10 Feb 2011 - 19:52

For me it seems the girls are only calling each other Cyborg with the first name. The others were called respectfully with surnames, or if they want to with the first name.

But the idea to use the surname as a cover-name is good, never thought about that, thanks.
This ways Emilie is knowing her full name well.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 10 Feb 2011 - 19:54

schaschanist wrote:I have chosen, Elfen.

The boyfriend is 'Emiliano Capriani'
Her complete name is 'Emilie Valerie De Laroque'
Together they are simply 'Emi and Emi' Doh!

Emilie is knowing her full name, Etienne told it her sometime.
I think it's like Elsa's case.( Her name was 'Elsa De Sica' and i'm the opinion that 'De Sica' was her surname. )
All are knowing it but nobody is calling her.

Good.

Nachtsider wrote:De Sica was Elsa's surname, all right, but it remains a mystery whether that was her actual surname or one given to her only after she became Lauro's cyborg. You know, like a name she could use as a cover while on operations:

"What's your name, little girl?"

"Elsa de Sica."

It's also debatable whether any of the other cyborgs knew of Elsa's last name. As far as I know, they only seem to know each other on a first-name basis. The fact that she didn't mix much with them might have amplified this further.
I speculate that it is Luaro's surname because of that the detectives say when they found their bodies, "Some (dead) guy and his daughter." The ID found on them both would have given their full names and if Elsa's surname matched Luaro's, that would connected them as related. Taking it to the extreme, if Elsa's ID was made to look like a school ID, one of the lines on it would have been "Parent/Guardian", followed by Lauro's full name. This would make him her father in law enforcement's eyes.

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 10 Feb 2011 - 20:21

ElfenMagix wrote:I speculate that it is Luaro's surname because of that the detectives say when they found their bodies, "Some (dead) guy and his daughter." The ID found on them both would have given their full names and if Elsa's surname matched Luaro's, that would connected them as related. Taking it to the extreme, if Elsa's ID was made to look like a school ID, one of the lines on it would have been "Parent/Guardian", followed by Lauro's full name. This would make him her father in law enforcement's eyes.
That's very plausible for a 1st gen in the earlier SWA-days.

But for my OC i would say she has her own ID to work with cause she sometimes is on duty for her own, alone without Etienne.

I also decided that she can go to the City of Rome on her own if she wants to.
That's the bit of free range they gave her. She already proved that she can protect/defend herself (she is trained for close-combat and is really excellent in martial arts and knife-fighting.), of course. She also is loyal to the agency, even if she is self-doubting, but they said there is no risk why she can not go outside on her own.

Maybe a bit weird and not fitting to Canon, but i decided that for my fiction.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 10 Feb 2011 - 20:29

schaschanist wrote:
ElfenMagix wrote:I speculate that it is Luaro's surname because of that the detectives say when they found their bodies, "Some (dead) guy and his daughter." The ID found on them both would have given their full names and if Elsa's surname matched Luaro's, that would connected them as related. Taking it to the extreme, if Elsa's ID was made to look like a school ID, one of the lines on it would have been "Parent/Guardian", followed by Lauro's full name. This would make him her father in law enforcement's eyes.
That's very plausible for a 1st gen in the earlier SWA-days.

But for my OC i would say she has her own ID to work with cause she sometimes is on duty for her own, alone without Etienne.

I also decided that she can go to the City of Rome on her own if she want to,
That's the bit of free range they gave her. She already proved that she can protect/defend herself, (she is trained for close-combat and is really excellent in martial arts and knife-fighting.) of course. She also is loyal to the agency, even if she is self-doubting, so they said there is no risk why she can not go outside on her own.

Maybe a bit weird and not fitting to Canon, but i decided that for my fiction.
Unless it is a mission, it is not even allowed!
In season 1, where Claes is made to go out alone to be kidnapped, she was followed by a team (even though those jerks lost her!). This is the only time any cyborg was allowed to venture alone, and done so for a mission.

One could point out the case oe Petra and Claes in the Padania being another, but I would beg to differ in that the SWA and 'Sandro was not too far away from them.

The risk of losing a cyborg is too high to have then venture out alone. It is done in fan fiction but it goes against Canon, especially of that cyborg looks like an underage child.

Yes, you can point out that I have Francesca running about on her own, but she is a 23yr. old female cyborg! She should have some freedoms, and under Fernando, she does. She is also never too far away from Fernando's team or a SWA staff member/team. (Yes, she does have her own car!)

In Addition...
We in the forum speculate that there are several SWA bases around Italy, with one in Rome and another outside of Rome. If your cyborg is housed in the base outside of Rome, no way she is going out on her own because the nearest anything that resembles civilization is several miles away. As for the Roma Base, that remains to be seen. But I don't see it happening.


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Post by Nachtsider on Thu 10 Feb 2011 - 20:33

A cyborg allowed to go out on her own would be very, very rare (if not outright impossible) for the reasons Elfen has already mentioned.

The only time I had a cyborg venture out beyond the Agency compound was in 'Night Shift'. And even then, Angelica quietly snuck out at the ungodly hour of two a.m., without anyone's permission.

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Would you say, a 13, near to 14 years old cyborg girl (that's her age in mind at where that happens), specialized for close combat (martial arts) is unable to go out for alone?
I say that's the best reason to allow a stay outside.

A stay outside in normal hours, i'm speaking of somewhere between breakfast and dinner, can be tolerated.
Cause she's a 'special case' they allowed her to stay outside.
And she will be, for sure, back at the dorm just in time.
The first and the only time she missed her 'deadline' was when she was with Emiliano and 'made Love with him'.

Just to make it clear, i'm speaking of a stay outside for freetime, not for missions.
In Missions there is of course always a team for back-up in the near.
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schaschanist wrote:Would you say, a 13, near to 14 years old cyborg girl (that's her age in mind at where that happens), specialized for close combat (martial arts) is unable to go out for alone?
I say that's the best reason to allow a stay outside.

A stay outside in normal hours, i'm speaking of somewhere between breakfast and dinner, can be tolerated.
Cause she's a 'special case' they allowed her to stay outside.
And she will be, for sure, back at the dorm just in time.
The first and the only time she missed her 'deadline' was when she was with Emiliano and 'made Love with him'.

Just to make it clear, i'm speaking of a stay outside for freetime, not for missions.
In Missions there is of course always a team for back-up in the near.
Not allowed. Why?
1) They are hunter/killer cyborgs. If alone they end up in a situation like the store they go into gets held up at gunpoint by stupid thugs, what is going to happen next? I would not want to write up that police report!

2) They are top of the line cybernetics based on billions of dollars of research, each cyborg being several million to have been built. Even if the Handler would want too, the SWA, the Medical team, and Cybernetics R&D will not want them to leave the confines of the compound.

3) They are getting to be well known within certain ranks in Padania. If Padania finds a lone cyborg out there on her free time, they will try to capture it- dead or alive!

OK, they can go anywhere in the compound alone to most places, except for the indoor range and the pool. The SWA wants no accidents to happen to their multi-million Euro cyborgs. The Medical Team and Fernando are going to be pissed off if they pull a dead cyborg out of the pool. Cyborgs dont float.

It is for their safety that they remain in the compound and only within certain areas of it. Their handlers can take them out on outings and trips, as well as places in the compound they normally could not go without supervision.

Something Luaro said in the Anime. "These mechanical girls, they are great, aren't they? You can send them out to get you your weapon or a loaf of bread." Here is the catch; once outside with her handler, the handler could do what they want with the cyborg, including letting go of her leash. But this is a dangerous proposition at best, because of the top 3 reasons stated above.

Once outside the compound, Fernando gives his girls a lot of freedom. Some think too much. But this has granted Francesca limited freedom to work on her own for the SWA. Soon, she might be getting a pay check too!

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Post by Schaschanist on Fri 11 Feb 2011 - 4:41

Emilie doesn't carries a gun, she only carries one or two knives. I think her Walther BlackTac is better to hide when she's in public.
So how could they recognize her as cyborg?
She is almost unknown in the ranks of Panadania, cause her work is covert and everybody she had to do with is dead now or right after they saw her.

Maybe Padania knows that there are Killer-Cyborg-Girls, but how could they know who it is or how they are looking?
I mean if they saw a girl in a shop, would they think first she is a cyborg? That is paranoid. Then they have to kill every Kid around them in hope to kill the cyborgs under them...

Emilie is not behaving like a normal cyborg, she's more behaving like a girl and she intelligent, too.
I would say she does everything not to be suspicious.
Of course, She is a multi-million-bucks expensive cyborg but the agency already is going some new ways with her.
And i'm sure that the agency is trying to build less suspicious cyborgs.
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Post by Alfisti on Fri 11 Feb 2011 - 7:17

I think, like Elfen's already pointed out, the fact that, in the eyes of the government, cyborgs are multi-million (if not billion) dollar pieces of combat equipment, is a pretty good argument against letting them outside on their own. I mean, you don't let people take Eurofighters out on joyflights, ditto you don't leave a cyborg on too loose of a leash. It's worth remembering that the conditioning is still less than perfect as well, it would not do well for it to glitch with no-one around.

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Post by Schaschanist on Fri 11 Feb 2011 - 8:48

Maybe i just want to give her that free range cause i'm thinking of her as 'Human' she still is and not just as a 'Thing' as the agency is thinking of.

They gave her the range cause she already had proven that she is something special and maybe as part of test to see how she is acting completely alone... maybe...

I mean, they already have blind-following-cyborgs but they don't have Cyborgs that can work of their own without the real need of a handler.
And i think it's not a bad idea to have such an independent working killer-cyborg-girl that is appearing more like an inconspicuous, normal Teenager.
And i think if she is with a boy of her age she is even more inconspicuous. Hey, they are just a couple of teens in love.
And i'm sure no Padanian is thinking about a killer-cyborg if such a couple like 'Emi & Emi' is crossing his way.



Remember, i'm always speaking of Emi, a very special, unusual Original-Character, not a 'usual Cyborg' from canon GSG.
So you can break the rules with her and some of you already had done this in own fictions.
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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 11 Feb 2011 - 9:08

I suppose that when it all comes down to it, certain rules can be bent as long as they're not done in a nonsensical way, and as long as they result in something great.

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