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Post by Schaschanist on Tue 22 Feb 2011 - 16:41

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I oppened up this thread for discussions and posting of clothes for my OCs Emilie and Etienne to get a bit more overview (in this thread and in my other OC-thread ).

For people who haven't seen the thread about my OCs:
http://gunslinger-girl.up-with.com/t2596p200-creation-of-a-new-oc#84825



Okay, this is 'the actual picture of Emilie':
She wearing a trench-coat-like jacket, a knee-length black skirt and a white blouse with a red tie (she don't like ties very much, but she has worn it for this one mission).
She has long and silky black hair, ice-blue eyes and a relative pale skin.
The black beret with the red bow on the side really is her brand.


And what already have at this moment:

A tartan-design:

This tartan design was a special gift from Etienne, a design he created and registered only for his little cyborg Emilie as something very personal.
It is used for the pajama Emilie's wearing at night and it's also used for a scarf she's wearing in winter and a trench-coat-like jacket.

A fast concept-drawing of clothes i decided for her:
The notes on the top translated:
beret - black with red bow
vest - black, titangrey buttons (alternatively dark grey)
blouse - red, halflength sleeves (alternatively white)
skirt - black, knee-length
shoes - black, leather (Mary-Janes)
socks - black, thin, short (alternatively white)



An artwork i have done years ago (it has nothing to do with my OC Emilie!):
Well, i think these clothes above the belt clothes also will fit for Emilie but not these pants.
Emilie never wears trousers.


To set the facts:
Emilie's clothes are mostly black. Some clothes are red or made of the red tartan-design as contrast to her black clothes. Some very few clothes are white. (I decided red cause in my opinion it's the best contrast for her black hair and black clothes.)
For some she could appear like kind of 'Goth' but just cause of the color black.
Yes, she does wear alot of black but her clothes are more lady-like or elegant (to say: dresses, skirts, blouses, shirts, pullunders, jacket, coats, ... )
And something very important: She always wear a beret with a red bow on the side!



If maybe someone has a picture that could fit Emilie's style, then feel free to post it in this thread.
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Post by Schaschanist on Tue 22 Feb 2011 - 20:23

I found two nice pictures which i think can fit her look and clothing-style as well.

First one:
'Casual Clothes', a hoodie and a simple skirt.
(I think something more for 'gunfight-missions')


Second one:
a black jeans-dress and a red polo shirt with white accents.


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Post by Alfisti on Wed 23 Feb 2011 - 7:59

@schaschanist wrote:The black beret with the red bow on the side really is her brand.
Heh, mental image of her and Robert's Agapita haveing a beret-off...


@schaschanist wrote: This tartan design was a special gift from Etienne, a design he created and registered only for his little cyborg Emilie as something very personal.

It is used for the pajama Emilie's wearing at night and it's also used for a scarf she's wearing in winter and a trench-coat-like jacket.
I'll be honest: I'm not personally a fan or tartan. Fortunately though it's one of those wonderfully versatile patterns. She could probaby get away with it as triming for a set of long socks if she wanted, or as lining inside her beret.

Not entirely certain about the idea of registering it though... I think there might be a few operational security issues there. Perhaps if he registered it under his own name or an alias. It'd be an interesting twist thout if at some point she got identified or caught out by someone recognising her tartan.

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Post by Schaschanist on Wed 23 Feb 2011 - 8:40

interesting thoughts, Alfisti.

Trouble cause someone recognized this tartan.... Well, really interesting.
I will think about that.

Hmm, and that design in the inner side of the beret. To be honest, really good option, i will use it.

But tartan-socks... Well, a little bit too old-fashioned (okay, it can look quite cool in the right contrast).
But not that kind of accessiors for a girl like Emilie...

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Post by Alfisti on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 4:59

@Alfisti wrote:I'll be honest: I'm not personally a fan or tartan.
I should caveat that: Burberry excepted.

@schaschanist wrote:But tartan-socks... Well, a little bit too old-fashioned (okay, it can look quite cool in the right contrast).
But not that kind of accessiors for a girl like Emilie...
I wasn't thinking so much straight tartan, just trimmed.

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 7:07

Tartan-trimmed socks, okay, that sounds a bit better than tartan socks.

For the shoes i thought about black leather-made Mary-Janes, perhaps sometimes sandals for warmer days.
Black boots for cooler days.

For missions I thought boots or shoes with a steel cap inside would make sense cause she's working often with Kicks and Punches.

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Post by Alfisti on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 7:24

@schaschanist wrote:For missions I thought boots or shoes with a steel cap inside would make sense cause she's working often with Kicks and Punches.
Somehow I don't think cyborgs need to worry too much about breaking toes...

That said: it'd certain help add some momentum to her kicks.

In the end it's really a case of fitting the footwear to the use, just like guns, or knives or whatever. My own OC generally wears black Dunlop Volleys when getting her tactical on. They're light and flexible so compliment her more stealth/agility centric approach. But if Emi is going to be seeing heavier combat than Monty does (not difficult), then stronger footwear is probably a good idea.

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 8:17

Well, I thought about these steel caps less to prevent the cyborgs toes but more to make the kicks harder.

I imagined to put her into a mission where she really kicks alot of asses of Padanians. Therefore I thought steel caps would be a nice try, to make the kicks more efficient.
For such a mission i would choose a simple pullover or sweatshirt/hoodie and a skirt (like the picture above) in addition to steel cap shoes (they just look like normal shoes).


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Post by Professor Voodoo on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 9:04

How about training outfits?

How does Emilie incorporate her trademark style when at the gym or running laps of the obstacle course?

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 9:27

@Professor Voodoo wrote:How about training outfits?

How does Emilie incorporate her trademark style when at the gym or running laps of the obstacle course?
Okay, in training suits i think its impossible to keep the trademarks or the look.

I never imagined her at a trainings course or in a gym, only kicking some ass, breaking necks and noses or killing people with knives or shooting with a silenced FiveSeven, in her 'street' clothes on missions.

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 10:15

I don't feel very comfortable with the idea of a cyborg training by running laps. In my eyes it doesn't make real sense, for what is it good for? Endurance?

Maybe thats a reason why I never imagined Emilie in a trainings suit or gym clothes.
I think it's not very necessary.

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Post by ChaosKin640 on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 10:43

Running lapse around the track, like any other part of the girls' physical training, is more about helping them acclimatize themselves to their mechanical parts. It lets them overcome and smooth out any balance issues they might have. And any time they are injured, some of those parts need to be replaced, so that starts the process all over again.
Aside from that, several fanfic authors, myself included, have used the athletic track as a means of discipline. Voodoo wrote about Jean ordering Rico to run laps until she threw up as punishment for craching an agency vehicle into Claes' herb garden and I've had my Melanie forced to run, to date, probably close to 100 miles' worth of laps, while lugging around a 120lb rucksack.

Melanie: Oh God, please don't remind me. I swear I almost died that first time. You don't want to know how many showers i had to take to wash off all of the mud.
Jacob: Hey, what the Hell are you doing in here on the computer? You're supposed to be on your way to the assault course.
Melanie: Jacob! Oh...I...uh...I was...just um...imparting the wisdom of my experiences onto others.
Jacob: Is that so? Well why don't I give you the opportunity to experience the feel of my boot up your ass? That should make an interesting topic of conversation.
Melanie: But I...
Jacob: Or why don't I just go grab your rucksack?
Melanie: Eeep! I'm going, I'm going, I'm going!
*there follows a deafening clap of thunder as Melanie proceeds to break the sound barrier in her haste to comply and rush out the door*
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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 11:49

Ah, okay.
Spoiler:
I thought about the whole thing with cybernetics and the construction alot. Well, I would say there are not as much mechanical parts in them as some are thinking, not that 'robotic' design what is often connected with 'cyborg'.
I read alot of discussions and speculations about the technicals here in this forum but I think there is alot more human-imitated engineering in them than some are thinking.In Germany we have a good word to describe the construction which in my opinion fits the GSG-Girls alot better. This word is 'bionisch' or 'Biomechanik'.

Hey, they feel pain, they feel temperature, they sweat, and important they bleed!

They are not Robots or Androids, they are Cyborgs or enhanced Humans.
Otherwise some points are useless. If you don't believe me then have a look on the manga (and don't come with the anime, I think there are some points contradicting the manga. And I see the manga as the original canon and not the anime-seasons.)
Okay, enough with the off-topic but that are some points I wanted to say for a long time.
Perhaps that is the reason why I'm so opposite in some statements and still thinking about the girls as humans.

Okay, training for Emilie is a point I haven't thought about much.
I would say, her training is more focused on the martial-arts-skills and knife-fighting-skills and I don't think she is often at the shooting range (maybe just practicing knife-throwing on a target there).
Running laps...hmm, martial arts is alot better training for acclimating with the body than simply running senseless (endless) laps around a silly trainings course. Okay, Emilie never feels very comfortable with herself being a cyborg (and the treatment of others caused by that fact) and her cybernetic body but that is something different.

Mission-like clothes, for example a skirt and a sweatshirt/pullover will be good enough when she's beating and kicking a sandbag for training. (I don't see her wearing a track-suit, trousers or shorts even not for training).


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Post by ChaosKin640 on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 12:43

Yeah, Melanie doesn't spend much time on the ranges except for sniper practise because, well, she's completely useless with just about any other form of firearm. She can't hit the broad-side of a barn at five paces with a handgun, shakes so bad when using a sub-machine gun or assault rifle that she's a bigger danger to those around her, and just looking at a shotgun makes her throw up and pass out.
While I haven't yet gotten to it in my writings, Melanie is eventually trained in advanced martial arts to suppliment her sniping role. Although, unlike your Emi, who is a knife fighter, Melanie's prefered CQB weapons will be dual short-swords, along with several throwing knifes.
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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 13:13

Okay, i already set that Emilie is carrying always a knife (a Walther BlackTec or the black diving knife, changes by her mood) and for some missions little daggers in her boots or under her skirt in a special holster.
A special holster like this one:



A sword, i thought about that too but i think that isn't really something for her (simply too large, nearly impossible to hide in covert operations).


Emilie has used guns at an earlier time but now the P90 and the MP9 are mostly dusting in their cases than she's firing them. The FiveSeven also isn't very often in use, mostly just for backup or to execute by order.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 18:11

@schaschanist wrote:I don't feel very comfortable with the idea of a cyborg training by running laps. In my eyes it doesn't make real sense, for what is it good for? Endurance?

Maybe thats a reason why I never imagined Emilie in a trainings suit or gym clothes.
I think it's not very necessary.
Its for endurance and disapline.

Sometimes you rund in to a mission that requires a lot more than just 5 minutes of intense battle and then dead silence. For that you will need endurance to keep up with the pressure and disapline not to go crazy out in field. Last thing you need is a shell shocked cyborg to deal with.

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 19:05

You're kidding me. Real muscles do need enduranced training to increase strength, but artificial muscles definitely do NOT.

I say running laps is only to tortue the mind or discipline the cyborg-girl (Something Jean does. I hate that bastard for his inhuman treatments!!).

For Emilie I think running laps is not neccessary and Etienne also said this is really stupid.
Spoiler:
He said somewhere to Jean: 'Treat them like real girls in their freetime is alot better than simply torturing them all the day. Remember Elsa, idiot! OKay, to be fair Emilie is a really different case but I think she's more right than you, Jean!! ... I think you would get killed by her if you were her handler and not me!'

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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 19:34

@schaschanist wrote:You're kidding me. Real muscles do need enduranced training to increase strength, but artificial muscles definitely do NOT.

I say running laps is only to tortue the mind or discipline the cyborg-girl (Something Jean does. I hate that bastard for his inhuman treatments!!).

For Emilie I think running laps is not neccessary and Etienne also said this is really stupid.
Spoiler:
He said somewhere to Jean: 'Treat them like real girls in their freetime is alot better than simply torturing them all the day. Remember Elsa, idiot! OKay, to be fair Emilie is a really different case but I think she's more right than you, Jean!! ... I think you would get killed by her if you were her handler and not me!'
I can understand this, and it depends on what and how the technology is used. Artificial Muscles are not electric or mechanical servos, magnetic pistons or electronic components. They are in some form or another muscle tissue that is artificially grown and enhanced. (See Replacing Body Parts {the white heart} here: http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/replacing-body-parts.html ).

As such, artificial muscles must be programmed, this is why Jean says that the cyborgs should practice doing other things like music or calligraphy, to fine tune the artificial nerve/artificial muscle programming. This is what makes athletes, concert musicians, fighter pilots and race car drivers what they are- constant nerve/muscle exercise. Thus it is true with the cyborgs.

Thus there is a reason for running laps, if not for the endurance, but for running without tripping on ones own legs.

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 20:02

The muscles themselves don't need any programming, the brain controls the muscles not the other way around.
The brain gives the impuls and the muscle lifts up by electrical conraction, nothing else.

So they only need training to control their bodies with more precision.

But running laps just to prevent the girls of doing something as an occupation-therapy is ridiculous and stupid. Only Jean can have that ideas.... I really want to kick his dumb ass!

I always can repeat, for me they are in first line still humans and not 'robots'.
Spoiler:
Thats why Emilie has her own will and wants to be accepted as a human.
She not only starts to worry and doubt about herself, she also starts to rise her voice against Jean and shows him and all others with several actions that she is not a thing.

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Post by Robert Frazer on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 21:45

@Alfisti wrote:
@schaschanist wrote:The black beret with the red bow on the side really is her brand.
Heh, mental image of her and Robert's Agapita haveing a beret-off...

AGAPITA: Emmy C, lose the lid. Nix harshin' mah vibe, y'dig?

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 22:02

There are lots of reasons to train on an obstacle course. If your cyborg has to climb a wall, crawl through a tight space or run across a narrow ledge to chase down her target she'll need to be well practiced at such things. These skills are learned on the course.
The SWA is a para-military unit after all. In between missions the girls & handlers must train hard...it's not all tea parties and trips to Taormina.

I imagine the girls love running full speed single laps of the course and competing for best times...but pacing themselves for multiple lap endurance runs becomes boring to them (hence its value as a discipline tool).
@Robert Frazer wrote:AGAPITA: Emmy C, lose the lid. Nix harshin' mah vibe, y'dig?

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Post by ChaosKin640 on Thu 24 Feb 2011 - 23:32

The muscles themselves don't need any programming, the brain controls the muscles not the other way around.
It's called "muscle memory", Schach. Hours and hours of repetitive practise trains the muscles to execute precise motions and movements without the need for specific synaptic instructions from the brain. One of the simplest and most common examples of this is riding a bicycle. There's a reason you never forget how to ride a bike; becuase the skill isn't retained in the brain, but in the muscles themselves.

If you're interested, you can read up on it at the relevent wiki article here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muscle_memory
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Post by Alfisti on Fri 25 Feb 2011 - 2:13

@Professor Voodoo wrote:There are lots of reasons to train on an obstacle course. If your cyborg has to climb a wall, crawl through a tight space or run across a narrow ledge to chase down her target she'll need to be well practiced at such things. These skills are learned on the course.
The SWA is a para-military unit after all. In between missions the girls & handlers must train hard...it's not all tea parties and trips to Taormina.
Too right. Even Monty tries get in some range and training time when she's at the SWA. It doesn't always happen of course, but she tries.

At the end of the day, as Voodoo said, there's some skills that can only be learned by repetition and practice and, moreover, things that you can only get good at by the same. An example would be riding a motorbike or driving a car. You can get onto any bike or into any car and drive it point A to Point B... but you only really get a proper feel for that vehicle over time. Remember the cyborgs haven't had the chance to grow up with their bodies like a regular human, they've got to practice to get in tune.

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Post by MP5 on Fri 25 Feb 2011 - 2:37

@Alfisti wrote:

At the end of the day, as Voodoo said, there's some skills that can only be learned by repetition and practice and, moreover, things that you can only get good at by the same. An example would be riding a motorbike or driving a car. You can get onto any bike or into any car and drive it point A to Point B... but you only really get a proper feel for that vehicle over time. Remember the cyborgs haven't had the chance to grow up with their bodies like a regular human, they've got to practice to get in tune.

Which is why Allison practices using Gymkhana similar to this, only with the addition of her handgun and steel targets:


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Post by Schaschanist on Fri 25 Feb 2011 - 3:00

Okay training is important to stay tuned.

Time by Time Emilie trains her martial arts and knife-fightinng skills to stay tuned andprepared for missions.
When she's in the mood she plays the Piano in her freetime.
I would say that is enough.
The training is a point i don't pay that much attention to...

But lets stop the discussion about training here and go on with discussions about clothes and style...

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Post by Schaschanist on Sat 26 Feb 2011 - 23:45

This jacket looks nice.

But the furry collar...

I like the cut of this jacket and want a jacket with a similar cut but made of her tartan-material in Emilie's wardrobe.


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Post by Alfisti on Sun 27 Feb 2011 - 5:08

That cut is a classic.

Personally I don't mind the wool collar, gives it a little bit of flying-jacket chic.

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Post by Schaschanist on Sun 27 Feb 2011 - 5:56

I know, flying-chic. You mean like these B-52 bomber jackets from the US air force.


Okay, really love this classical trench-coat-style jackets. I see them here very often (mostly with plaid-design) and I really like them very much.

I think somewhere i have an selfmade artwork of a girl wearing such a jacket, I will take a look in my hard disk and post it if I found that image.

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Post by Danjo3 on Sun 27 Feb 2011 - 6:29

I don’t like the collar either. But I do like pea coats.


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Post by Schaschanist on Sun 27 Feb 2011 - 7:05

@Danjo3 wrote:I don’t like the collar either. But I do like pea coats.

That is absolutely what i like and what i meant. Thanks for the picture, Danjo.
I want this in Emilie's wardrobe.

Oh and i found the picture i looked for in my hard disk:
I was inspired by a picture of such a coat in a warehouse catalog.
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Post by Schaschanist on Sun 27 Feb 2011 - 12:59

I played a bit with different colors and patterns on the latest picture of Emilie and tried to use her tartan-design or darker colors for her affection to wear black.

First one, a black coat with light-grey accents and dark-grey socks:

Second one, all black coat and white socks:

Third one, red tartan coat with black accents:


And I played with another blue-tone for Emilie's eyes:

Cool ice-blue, a pretty hypnotic and cold eye color but i think it looks a bit too cold and don't matches really to her personality....

So I think I will hold on the old and actual:

A lighter blue, looks really lovely and warm on her and will fit her alot better.

What do you think, which one is better? Give me your opinion.
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Post by Alfisti on Mon 28 Feb 2011 - 5:02

Despite not being a big fan of tartan, out of those I oddly like the tartan best.

As to the eyes, from what we know of her personality, definately the warmer eyes.

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Post by Schaschanist on Mon 28 Feb 2011 - 5:19

Thanks, Alfisti.
Meanwhile i also think the warmer eye color is the best for her.
The other one looks a bit too much like a psychopath and that is definitely nothing for a lovely person like Emilie.

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Post by Alfisti on Mon 28 Feb 2011 - 5:26

@schaschanist wrote:The other one looks a bit too much like a psychopath
I'm glad I'm not the only one who thought that.

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Post by Schaschanist on Mon 28 Feb 2011 - 5:47

Well, it was just a try how it would look and it doesn't look as good as i thought first.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 28 Feb 2011 - 6:07

A tartan can be incorporated as a minor detail too; witness the lining of Rico's coat seen in Chapter 64.

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Post by Schaschanist on Mon 28 Feb 2011 - 9:04

@Professor Voodoo wrote:A tartan can be incorporated as a minor detail too; witness the lining of Rico's coat seen in Chapter 64.
Well, tartan-design is (in most cases) simply a part of the style in the world of fashion and so you can see it everywhere. (for example the classical 'Harrington Jacket', it has tartan on the inside.)

In Emilie's case it's part of her fashion but there is also a special meaning behind it.
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Post by boomer_gonz on Mon 28 Feb 2011 - 14:32

For some odd reason; I just looked at Emile and I can't help but think of the MacManus prayer.


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Post by Schaschanist on Mon 28 Feb 2011 - 16:44

@boomer_gonz wrote:For some odd reason; I just looked at Emile and I can't help but think of the MacManus prayer.
And shepherds we shall be,
for thee my lord for thee,
power hath descended forthfrom
thy hand, that our feet may
swiftly carry out thy command.
We shall flow a river forth to
thee, and teeming with souls
shall it ever be.
In nomine Patris, et filii, et Spiritus Sancti, Amen.

Interesting thought, Boomer.
Perhaps it comes from her straight elegant, fine and conservative look why she appears like the daughter of a catholic priest.

Spoiler:
Add a crucifix on her neck and you have a 'catholic killer girl'.
Then imagine a girl like Emilie standing in front of a Padanian, pointing a gun in his face and saying 'In the name of God, I have to kill you, godless scum!' ... hilarious Razz

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 28 Feb 2011 - 17:31

@schaschanist wrote:Interesting thought, Boomer.
Perhaps it comes from her straight elegant, fine and conservative look why she appears like the daughter of a catholic priest.
Spoiler:
Add a crucifix on her neck and you have a 'catholic killer girl'.
Then imagine a girl like Emilie standing in front of a Padanian, pointing a gun in his face and saying 'In the name of God, I have to kill you, godless scum!' ... hilarious Razz
Actually, Goths have been using the crufix motiff for quite a while now. And it does not mean that they are religious by any means.

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Post by Schaschanist on Mon 28 Feb 2011 - 18:47

I don't think that Emilie really wants to carry a crucifix, she's not religious...although, ... she does have read the bible. (After this explosion Emilie borrowed it from Claes and read it in the time where her wounds were healing.)

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 28 Feb 2011 - 21:18

@schaschanist wrote:Perhaps it comes from her straight elegant, fine and conservative look why she appears like the daughter of a catholic priest.
Except that Catholic priests are not supposed to have wives or children!
I don't think that Emilie really wants to carry a crucifix, she's not religious...although, ... she does have read the bible. (After this explosion Emilie borrowed it from Claes and read it in the time where her wounds were healing.)
I wrote an episode in which Marisa must go to a Catholic school & protect a girl her age from kidnapping. Mari has a huge fear of nuns, and a fierce contempt for religion but her handler Elio rationalized making her attend religion & catechism classes by saying any educated person should be at least familiar with Biblical philosophy & history...regardless of whether they wish to believe or not.

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Post by Schaschanist on Tue 1 Mar 2011 - 2:57

I'm sure you meant Monks, them isn't allowed to. 'Abstinence', this is the here keyword. It's a personal decision to spend more time with god and not a rule or order.
Priests themself of course can marry a wife and have children, it's a holy order!
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Remember Katy Perry, she IS the daughter of a (non-abstinent) catholic priest.

I'm not son of a religious family and I'm not very religious (I think I'm agnostic) but that is that much what i know about catholics.

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@schaschanist wrote:I'm sure you meant Monks, them isn't allowed to. 'Abstinence', this is the here keyword. It's a personal decision to spend more time with god and not a rule or order.
Priests themself of course can marry a wife and have children, it's a holy order!
I'm pretty sure that in modern times abstinence is a requirement for a Roman Catholic priest or nun. I know there are a few Catholics on the site (ElfenMagix, Robert Frazer) who might be able to clear this up for us.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 1 Mar 2011 - 3:36

@Professor Voodoo wrote:I'm pretty sure that in modern times abstinence is a requirement for a Roman Catholic priest or nun.

That is correct.

Other demoninations of Christianity have different rules towards abstinence and marriage as it relates to the clergy.

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And a translated quote from the german Wiki entry:
Old Catholic Churches
In the Old Catholic churches, there is no necessary connection between priesthood and celibacy.
So Priest can marry, have wifes and children.
Sexual Abstinence in the meaning of 'Celibacy' is only necessary to spend more time with god and not an order of the priesthood itself in general (they say you can decide a celibacy or non-celibacy priesthood, so it's your decision.)

But that is a bit off-topic, lets close this discussion about priesthood.

Fact is, in the picture Emilie may appears like the daughter of a catholic priest cause of her look.
But she is not and never was the daughter of a priest.

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Post by Danjo3 on Tue 1 Mar 2011 - 11:47

@schaschanist wrote:Add a crucifix on her neck and you have a 'catholic killer girl'.
Then imagine a girl like Emilie standing in front of a Padanian, pointing a gun in his face and saying 'In the name of God, I have to kill you, godless scum!' ... hilarious Razz
Emilie: The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know My name is the Lord when I lay My vengeance upon thee!

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Post by Schaschanist on Tue 1 Mar 2011 - 12:20

@Danjo3 wrote:
@schaschanist wrote:Add a crucifix on her neck and you have a 'catholic killer girl'.
Then imagine a girl like Emilie standing in front of a Padanian, pointing a gun in his face and saying 'In the name of God, I have to kill you, godless scum!' ... hilarious Razz
Emilie: The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the iniquities of the selfish and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he who, in the name of charity and good will, shepherds the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who would attempt to poison and destroy My brothers. And you will know My name is the Lord when I lay My vengeance upon thee!
Errr, yes.... Definitely nothing Emilie would say before killing. Razz

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Although, i never thought about that she could have a battlecry. Hmm...
Okay, I'm pretty sure this is nothing for this Thread, it's more something for my OC-Thread...
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Post by ElfenMagix on Tue 1 Mar 2011 - 18:11

Evangelicals, Baptists, Lutherans, Pentecostalists, Methodists, Angelicans, and most of the Protestant Branch can marry but some denominations are sworn to abstinence during marriage- yeah right like that is going to work!

It is the Catholic Church, Eastern Catholic Churches, Eastern Orthodox Church, Oriental Orthodox Church, Assyrian Church of the East, Armenian Church and the Coptic churches that do not allow their priests to marry. In some cases, though priests are not allowed to marry, when they reach higher offices (Bishops and Cardinals) that they can marry, but this is not true for the Roman Catholic Church.

I will admit that there are those within the church that will use their power of pursuadation to commit sin.

Strangely enough, in a recent move, the Roman Catholic Church has allowed Evangelical Priests to join the Priest-hood with their wives but are a sworn to a Rite of Cellebacy.

It is not impossible for a priest to have a secret life, have sex or even a marriage and a family. It has happened and it will continue to this day and well into the future.


As for Rachel and Francesca, they are silent killers and you wont know that you are their target until the gun is drawn and the trigger pulled at the last second. No battle Cries need to apply.

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Post by Schaschanist on Tue 1 Mar 2011 - 18:48

Enough with the talk about priesthood, my mind is spinning around. Yikes!

And my opinion is that battle cries are a bit too silly for a serious killer (and even for a teen/underage killer Cyborg.)
And Emilie as a quite silent girl don't say much in missions and during a fight (no matter if knife-fight or hand-to-hand-fight) she don't say nearly nothing, only if someone hurts her.

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