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Post by Awinnell on Sat 21 May 2011 - 6:47

theres a reason why they aren't used by anyone but film makers and the more wacky survivalist types,the ballistics are terrible,the explosive content is either to small to be very effective and at the same time large enough to be dangerous to the user,

on top of which the main reason for using a bow is that it is silent,but thats not the case when you have explosives strapped to your arrow,far better off using an RPG,or grenade launcher,bigger bang,longer range,less likely to take shrapnel from your own round

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sat 21 May 2011 - 20:36

@Nachtsider wrote:1 yard = 0.91 meters. Do the math.

I imagine the explosives detonate on impact. As for the payload, I don't know how destructive it would be. Can't be all too big, I'm thinking - the strength of a 20mm shell, perhaps? Elfen?
The warheads on the arrows were about the size of a golf ball, maybe 2 inches across (5cm). Explosives were dial in (what you poured into the warhead), but it was between 1 -3 sticks of dynamite. a 20mm shell is about 50 - 150 sticks of dynamite or 45 pounds of TNT.

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Post by Lyndist on Sat 21 May 2011 - 23:43

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sun 22 May 2011 - 0:51

@lyndist wrote:If it is so weak - nothing to worry about Razz
Weak? Its taken down steel bridges, knocked down buildings, taken out vehicles less than a tank in battle. If it hits you, its taking you and your 10 friends around you. For its size (a 5cm ball), its powerful.

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Post by Awinnell on Sun 22 May 2011 - 6:47

i think you are seriously overestimating the yield of a 20 mm cannon round,a WWII aircraft could withstand several direct hits from them and they haven't gotten that much better since then

M53 API 4.2 g incendiary Penetration 6.3 mm RHA at 0-degree impact and 1000-m range.

M56A3/A4 HEI 9 g HE (RDX/wax/Al) and 1.5 g incendiary
Nose fuzed round, no tracer. Effective radius to produce casualties to exposed personnel 2 meters, fragmentation hazard out to 20 meters. Penetration 12.5 mm RHA at 0 degree obliquity at 100m range


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Multi-purpose fuzeless round, HE charge is initiated by the incendiary charge on the nose on impact. Self-destruct due to tracer burn-through. Penetration 12.5 mm RHA at 0 degree impact at 518 m range, or 6.3 mm at 60 degrees and 940 m.

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Post by Lyndist on Fri 30 Dec 2011 - 10:40

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Post by Awinnell on Fri 30 Dec 2011 - 13:53

@lyndist wrote:Same question in post 1

Juggernaut
in Real life:They Real or not?

are you talking about the heavies from MW3 ?



or something else ?

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Post by Officer_Charon on Fri 30 Dec 2011 - 14:04

I have several friends on the bomb squad, and another officer who was Army EOD. They all tell me that it's damned near impossible to move fast wearing that suit - it's too reinforced.

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Post by Lyndist on Fri 30 Dec 2011 - 19:38

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 30 Dec 2011 - 20:27

Well the person on the right is real, but that armor is to protect them in their job as ordinance disposal. They are not offensive combat troops because they cannot maneuver in non-urban terrain in that outfit.

As that armor is designed to protect the wearer from a bomb going off right in front of them, I expect you would have to engage it with something like armor-piercing 12.7x99mm or 20mm.

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Post by MP5 on Fri 30 Dec 2011 - 21:46

@lyndist wrote:
@Awinnell wrote:
@lyndist wrote:Same question in post 1

Juggernaut
in Real life:They Real or not?

are you talking about the heavies from MW3 ?



or something else ?

Yeah . I really want to know about them :They real or not - and if they real-How to take them dow?

Does anyone have information about it ?

In fact, I have an upcoming mission in Tết Holiday and I do not want to be surprised .

I only have a MP5K SMG and a CZ83 If I meet these guys . it's really a nightmare to me



it really looks like a Juggernaut suit

Well rest assured, the 'Juggernaut' of Modern Warfare fame is the result of fiction. You are NOT going to encounter assailants dressed like that on account of the equipment involved being extremely bulky and hindering. so stop worrying and try to enjoy Tet.

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Post by Officer_Charon on Sat 31 Dec 2011 - 13:03

Lyndist: From a tactical standpoint, that is lots of kevlar and ceramic. But you can still knock them over. If you have no other option, hit them with a car.

From a realism standpoint: Almost no-one outside of the military is going to have this suit.

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Post by funkmachine on Thu 5 Jan 2012 - 20:58

you can load up with a lot of armor and be bullet proof over 95% of your body but there are still ways to get killed.

From a tactical standpoint, id use small arms to pin then down then

a hand grenade or some other explosive is the best way i can think of the Overpressure will not care about all the armor.

a shaped charge will cut past the armor but will need seting up.
or just use the heat of the day to get round the armor.

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Post by Lyndist on Tue 12 Jun 2012 - 20:18

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Post by Officer_Charon on Tue 12 Jun 2012 - 22:04

It's a credible threat, albeit only slightly moreso than a blade and pistol seperate. In practice, getting the knife to fire the .22 rounds takes too much time, if you're not already prepared to shoot.

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Post by Three Dog on Tue 12 Jun 2012 - 23:08

@Officer_Charon wrote:It's a credible threat, albeit only slightly moreso than a blade and pistol seperate. In practice, getting the knife to fire the .22 rounds takes too much time, if you're not already prepared to shoot.
Thsi probably won't mean much considering that my combat experiance is breakinbg up two fights after school, but I agree. It would be more practical tp have a gun and a knife.

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Post by Officer_Charon on Tue 12 Jun 2012 - 23:38

It's more of a security advisory. We receive them, on occasion - this one's about 5 years old, I believe.

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