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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 28 Jul 2011 - 1:48

@maverick375 wrote:This thread has officially gone from wrong to OMFG.


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Post by ChaosKin640 on Thu 28 Jul 2011 - 4:42

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@ChaosKin640 wrote:I don't even want to know what possible mission-related incident prompted the doctors to feel it was a necessity for them to armor that specific part of the girls' anatomy.
You poor, naive soul. There was nothing mission-related about this. It was purely a prank, with Sandro being the highly specific target.
Yeah, I can believe that. Sure beats my hypothesis of an agency cyborg having been critically injured after a lucky Padania agent somehow managed to fire a bullet up between her legs while she was jumping down on top of him from a 2nd story rooftop, with the round penetrating...uh, *ahem*...up through her birth canal, her uterus and then into her vital organs.

Not that I spent any amount of time seriously pondering this question, mind you. Razz

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Post by Schaschanist on Thu 28 Jul 2011 - 5:56

@ChaosKin640 wrote:
@Nachtsider wrote:
@ChaosKin640 wrote:I don't even want to know what possible mission-related incident prompted the doctors to feel it was a necessity for them to armor that specific part of the girls' anatomy.
You poor, naive soul. There was nothing mission-related about this. It was purely a prank, with Sandro being the highly specific target.
Yeah, I can believe that. Sure beats my hypothesis of an agency cyborg having been critically injured after a lucky Padania agent somehow managed to fire a bullet up between her legs while she was jumping down on top of him from a 2nd story rooftop, with the round penetrating...uh, *ahem*...up through her birth canal, her uterus and then into her vital organs.

Not that I spent any amount of time seriously pondering this question, mind you. Razz
And there we are again at a point where we already had been several times...
We already seen the famous bulletproof german police sports-bra., time that we have to develop the bulletproof panty or in Petra's case the bulletproof string-tanga. XD

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Post by Nachtsider on Thu 28 Jul 2011 - 6:11

@ChaosKin640 wrote:Yeah, I can believe that. Sure beats my hypothesis of an agency cyborg having been critically injured after a lucky Padania agent somehow managed to fire a bullet up between her legs while she was jumping down on top of him from a 2nd story rooftop, with the round penetrating...uh, *ahem*...up through her birth canal, her uterus and then into her vital organs.

Not that I spent any amount of time seriously pondering this question, mind you. Razz
Adding that final disclaimer after such a vividly-outlined scenario?

Yeah right.

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Post by ChaosKin640 on Thu 28 Jul 2011 - 6:43

@Nachtsider wrote:
@ChaosKin640 wrote:Yeah, I can believe that. Sure beats my hypothesis of an agency cyborg having been critically injured after a lucky Padania agent somehow managed to fire a bullet up between her legs while she was jumping down on top of him from a 2nd story rooftop, with the round penetrating...uh, *ahem*...up through her birth canal, her uterus and then into her vital organs.

Not that I spent any amount of time seriously pondering this question, mind you. Razz
Adding that final disclaimer after such a vividly-outlined scenario?

Yeah right.
Oh crap, I think they're on to me!

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Thu 28 Jul 2011 - 15:40

@schaschanist wrote: And there we are again at a point where we already had been several times...
Yet another thread winds up in a discussion about cyborg underwear.
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Marisa: Well that's not gonna work; steel underpants will totally throw off my buoyancy...and the salt water will jam up that lock in a heartbeat.

Petrushka: (faceplam) I don't think they're really intended for you youngsters.

Marisa: What!? Totally unfair. Monty has an iPhone...Kara has a real samurai sword...Allison has a car and now Petra has metal underwear! You older girls get all the cool stuff!

Francesca: (whispering) And they say I'm clueless...

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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 28 Jul 2011 - 20:53

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@schaschanist wrote: And there we are again at a point where we already had been several times...
Yet another thread winds up in a discussion about cyborg underwear.
@Awinnell wrote:
Marisa: Well that's not gonna work; steel underpants will totally throw off my buoyancy...and the salt water will jam up that lock in a heartbeat.

Petrushka: (faceplam) I don't think they're really intended for you youngsters.

Marisa: What!? Totally unfair. Monty has an iPhone...Kara has a real samurai sword...Allison has a car and now Petra has metal underwear! You older girls get all the cool stuff!

Francesca: (whispering) And they say I'm clueless...

Rachel (glancing over to Francesca for a second then hands Marisa a small clay jar): Marisa, you can only get these things when the Breast Fairy fulls that little clay car with estrogen and you become a woman.

Marisa: The Breast Fairy has to fill this little jar...?

Rachel: Thats the gist of it.

*2 days later by Claes' garden, a little clay jar rests under a box and stick trap. A string leads around the yard and behind the corner of a building. Marisa sits by the corner, holding onto the string.*

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Post by tremec6speed on Fri 29 Jul 2011 - 2:44

@Odon wrote:
What's an IUD? Puzzled
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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 29 Jul 2011 - 2:48

It's a coiled metal implant, inserted into one's uterus as a means of birth control. Prevents fertilized embryos from housing themselves in the womb, you see.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Fri 29 Jul 2011 - 2:53

Better than having an IED up there...

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Re: Cyborgs and Sex?

Post by ChaosKin640 on Fri 29 Jul 2011 - 2:57

Well, with the recent assassination of the mayor of Kandahar, the bomber having hid the bomb under his turban, you never know.
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Post by tremec6speed on Fri 29 Jul 2011 - 3:24

@Nachtsider wrote:It's a coiled metal implant, inserted into one's uterus as a means of birth control. Prevents fertilized embryos from housing themselves in the womb, you see.
Ahh....
Yes Indeed
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Post by Officer_Charon on Fri 29 Jul 2011 - 16:30

It's not so much the kevlar IUD as it is the Claymore dentata...

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Post by tremec6speed on Sat 30 Jul 2011 - 14:38

@Officer_Charon wrote:It's not so much the kevlar IUD as it is the Claymore dentata...
Ohh.... NO
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Post by Odon on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 3:58

@Officer_Charon wrote:It's not so much the kevlar IUD as it is the Claymore dentata...

Based on technology developed in Italy by Dr Goldfoot, I take it.

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 4:03

@Odon wrote:Based on technology developed in Italy by Dr Goldfoot, I take it.
In light of the territory we're venturing into, I'd say an Italian Spider-Man crossover is only a hop, skip and a jump away.

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Post by Alfisti on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 5:24

@Odon wrote:Based on technology developed in Italy by Dr Goldfoot, I take it.
Just read the wiki article. This I must see.

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Post by Odon on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 6:39

@Alfisti wrote:
@Odon wrote:Based on technology developed in Italy by Dr Goldfoot, I take it.
Just read the wiki article. This I must see.

Don't bother. Saw both Goldfoot movies (they were in the now defunct Trash Video), and to be honest they weren't that funny or titilating.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 9:29

@Alfisti wrote:
@Odon wrote:Based on technology developed in Italy by Dr Goldfoot, I take it.
Just read the wiki article. This I must see.

The Eurospy movies of the 60's are classics, though not necessarily for good reasons. sweat

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 10:19

I feel like asking one of you people to write a GSG story in the vein of a Eurospy flick.

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Post by Odon on Mon 1 Aug 2011 - 7:24

@Nachtsider wrote:I feel like asking one of you people to write a GSG story in the vein of a Eurospy flick.

Jethro and Monty with dubbed voices?

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Post by Awinnell on Mon 1 Aug 2011 - 10:30

@Odon wrote:
@Nachtsider wrote:I feel like asking one of you people to write a GSG story in the vein of a Eurospy flick.

Jethro and Monty with dubbed voices?



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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 1 Aug 2011 - 12:39

@Nachtsider wrote:I feel like asking one of you people to write a GSG story in the vein of a Eurospy flick.

Well a goodly number of them were filmed in Italy...

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Post by Nagneto on Sat 27 Aug 2011 - 11:21

I'm pleased to see this forum isn't skidish about sexuality in this series. This is hardly relevant to the task at hand but the fanfiction I'm working on, I intend to use metaphor to express budding feelings of love, longing and such. I also intend to explore themes of abuse and guilt associated with such (mostly in the sense of the cyborgification of the girls and their handler's feelings about it).

Mind you it is only there to serve the purpose of making a statement at society's conniving and contradictory views on the subject.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sat 27 Aug 2011 - 12:53

As I have always said of this subject, Nagneto, if one is conditioned to die for another, then sex would become a very minor thing and will do it willingly when told to do so.


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Post by Robert Frazer on Sat 27 Aug 2011 - 13:32

*Avise stumbles in the corridor. In complete contrast to his usually ruler-cut martial smartness, his clothes are dishevelled, his eyes are wandering and unfocused, and his hair looks as though some pigeons have made a nest in it. He staggers against a wall for support, his legs trembling alarmingly*

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sat 27 Aug 2011 - 19:19

Claes: (Song of Solomon 1:8-17)
Friends
If you do not know, most beautiful of women,
follow the tracks of the sheep
and graze your young goats
by the tents of the shepherds.

He
I liken you, my darling, to a mare
among Pharaoh’s chariot horses.
Your cheeks are beautiful with earrings,
your neck with strings of jewels.
We will make you earrings of gold,
studded with silver.

She
While the king was at his table,
my perfume spread its fragrance.
My beloved is to me a sachet of myrrh
resting between my breasts.
My beloved is to me a cluster of henna blossoms
from the vineyards of En Gedi.

He
How beautiful you are, my darling!
Oh, how beautiful!
Your eyes are doves.

She
How handsome you are, my beloved!
Oh, how charming!
And our bed is verdant.


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Post by Nagneto on Sun 28 Aug 2011 - 10:09

Most delightful!

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come on peoples!

Post by ProjectZ on Wed 21 Sep 2011 - 21:32

Who cares. seriously. there are more important things in the world to worry about. But yes I'm sure it would possible and yes Sandro would get fired if they did.

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Post by Nachtsider on Wed 21 Sep 2011 - 22:14

@ProjectZ wrote:Who cares. seriously. there are more important things in the world to worry about.
Says the guy who once wondered about Henrietta using the vacant spot where her uterus once was to store her iPod.

Uh-huh.

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Thu 22 Sep 2011 - 7:32

@Nachtsider wrote:
@ProjectZ wrote:Who cares. seriously. there are more important things in the world to worry about.
Says the guy who once wondered about Henrietta using the vacant spot where her uterus once was to store her iPod.

Uh-huh.

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Post by Odon on Thu 22 Sep 2011 - 19:14

Nothing is more important than sex.



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Post by Robert Frazer on Thu 22 Sep 2011 - 20:30

More importantly, creating enough taxpayers to fund all of our pensions depends on it!

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Post by Nagneto on Fri 23 Sep 2011 - 4:46

@ProjectZ wrote:Who cares. seriously. there are more important things in the world to worry about. But yes I'm sure it would possible and yes Sandro would get fired if they did.

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Post by ProjectZ on Sun 2 Oct 2011 - 7:55

I prefer not to talk about the Henrietta incident. that one was a test of the limits of the site I made when I joined. I think I will have to burry that in a box labeled hamdingers. no one would ever look for it there
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Re: Cyborgs and Sex?

Post by Tommygunner70 on Sun 2 Oct 2011 - 8:28

@ProjectZ wrote:I prefer not to talk about the Henrietta incident. that one was a test of the limits of the site I made when I joined. I think I will have to burry that in a box labeled hamdingers. no one would ever look for it there

Testing the limits here isn't the smartest thing to do Z. Especially not when hard asses like me, who have zero tolerance for bullshit, are patrolling the forums.

Just be civil, use common sense, remain decent and everything will be fine and dandy.

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Re: Cyborgs and Sex?

Post by ElfenMagix on Sun 2 Oct 2011 - 21:14

@Tommygunner70 wrote:
@ProjectZ wrote:I prefer not to talk about the Henrietta incident. that one was a test of the limits of the site I made when I joined. I think I will have to burry that in a box labeled hamdingers. no one would ever look for it there

Testing the limits here isn't the smartest thing to do Z. Especially not when hard asses like me, who have zero tolerance for bullshit, are patrolling the forums.

Just be civil, use common sense, remain decent and everything will be fine and dandy.
Only a true Gunslinger Girl Fan would have seen and known about the Pre 2000 editions of Gunslinger Girl. In those few issues, the girls were abused and sexed up or rape (according to one's POV). Also, much of the GsG Hentai out there was also created by a person named JewlwBox, showing more elicit relationships between handlers and cyborgs. Now this puts the blame of offense on Yu Aida (aka JewelBox- see the connection here? Since he made it, and allowed others to make more, this becomes canon.). What you did was to offend the ladies here. Note the difference.

But back to that point of the Pre 2000 editions. It showed that the girls were literally slaves. It also showed their capabilities (Like when Jose was removing deformed rounds from Henrietta's back with a pair of pliers!). It existed then. During the story since, the handlers did what they wanted to their girls and it would be looked the other way. This happened with Luaro, through V1 and the first season Amine, hints were dropped as to how great they were but something happened to Elsa for her to ventilate his brain. Conditioning follows and she kills herself. Question is why? She was abused in some form for her to lash out like that.

Now with Allesandro, here we have an agent who would make love to a chicken if the government agency he was under told him to seduce it and get any Padania information it so gave. Giving him a teen aged cyborg, he would hop in that as soon as he could. Only hint that they did anything was Petra telling the other cyborgs about their 'special relationship.' You ask any girl from 16 - 21 about defining a special relationship, and they will tell you its a sexual one. Thus this hints the possibility of it happen though many will deny it. Denial is a river in Egypt, I say.

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Re: Cyborgs and Sex?

Post by SPARTAN 119 on Mon 3 Oct 2011 - 10:34

@ElfenMagix wrote:
Only a true Gunslinger Girl Fan would have seen and known about the Pre 2000 editions of Gunslinger Girl. In those few issues, the girls were abused and sexed up or rape (according to one's POV). Also, much of the GsG Hentai out there was also created by a person named JewlwBox, showing more elicit relationships between handlers and cyborgs. Now this puts the blame of offense on Yu Aida (aka JewelBox- see the connection here? Since he made it, and allowed others to make more, this becomes canon.). What you did was to offend the ladies here. Note the difference.

I tend to avoid GsG doujins, so I don't know anything about the guy's art style, but are you suggesting that JewlwBox is Aida?
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Re: Cyborgs and Sex?

Post by Tommygunner70 on Mon 3 Oct 2011 - 14:04

@SPARTAN 119 wrote:I tend to avoid GsG doujins, so I don't know anything about the guy's art style, but are you suggesting that JewlwBox is Aida?

Ermmmm AKA means "Also Known As" so yeah he is. I've seen the majority of the GSG Hentai stuff along with previous works like bittersweet fools. They mirror Aida's GSG style so much that it cant be another artist cranking them out.

We had a picture of Ferro in her lingerie floating around here, and it was extremely similar as well.

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Re: Cyborgs and Sex?

Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 3 Oct 2011 - 21:26

@Tommygunner70 wrote:
@SPARTAN 119 wrote:I tend to avoid GsG doujins, so I don't know anything about the guy's art style, but are you suggesting that JewlwBox is Aida?

Ermmmm AKA means "Also Known As" so yeah he is. I've seen the majority of the GSG Hentai stuff along with previous works like bittersweet fools. They mirror Aida's GSG style so much that it cant be another artist cranking them out.

We had a picture of Ferro in her lingerie floating around here, and it was extremely similar as well.
Yu Aida and Jewel Box are the one and the same.
Many internet sites connect them to together. His personal site, has the 'JewelBox' as its user directory. http://www.remus.dti.ne.jp/~jewelbox/

Many of the original GsG Hentai and Doujins were created by him, some with both names on the works. The GsG Italia 2007 Jewelbox, is signed Jewel Box, but is known as Yu's work. And GsG Hentai and Doujins done by others and published, were recognized by Jewel Box, Yu Aida or both. I say in him doing so, makes this ancient Hentai and Doujins material as canon as the rest of the GsG universe.

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Re: Cyborgs and Sex?

Post by Nachtsider on Mon 3 Oct 2011 - 21:34

I think the early, adult material should not be regarded as related to GSG as we know it, but as a totally separate series.

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Re: Cyborgs and Sex?

Post by SPARTAN 119 on Tue 4 Oct 2011 - 0:15

@Nachtsider wrote:I think the early, adult material should not be regarded as related to GSG as we know it, but as a totally separate series.

I, for one, second that idea.
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Re: Cyborgs and Sex?

Post by tremec6speed on Tue 4 Oct 2011 - 3:24

@SPARTAN 119 wrote:
@Nachtsider wrote:I think the early, adult material should not be regarded as related to GSG as we know it, but as a totally separate series.

I, for one, second that idea.
Ahh, but only Mr. Aida knows for sure if the harder hitting hentai was the true story he meant to tell and the sanitized version simply a politically correct 'General Audience' more palatable (and profitable) tale, or was the early version a kind of free forming gist so to speak, heralding things to come? Puzzled
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Re: Cyborgs and Sex?

Post by John_234 on Mon 21 Nov 2011 - 7:28

Well, Hellsing's main characters started out as hentai characters too, but said manga is super gory and explicit to begin with...

I guess the reality of it is that most mangaka start out with doujin and less respectable works.

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Re: Cyborgs and Sex?

Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 21 Nov 2011 - 21:47

@tremec6speed wrote:
@SPARTAN 119 wrote:
@Nachtsider wrote:I think the early, adult material should not be regarded as related to GSG as we know it, but as a totally separate series.

I, for one, second that idea.
Ahh, but only Mr. Aida knows for sure if the harder hitting hentai was the true story he meant to tell and the sanitized version simply a politically correct 'General Audience' more palatable (and profitable) tale, or was the early version a kind of free forming gist so to speak, heralding things to come? Puzzled
Nacht, Spartan, if it were not for a coupe of 'chapters' in the Doujins, and the covers actually saying "Gunslinger Girl...", I would agree. Three chapters comes to comes to mind; unfortunately the laptop that had them was stolen, Angie's Origin story is on one of the works, showing her father running her over with a Mercedes, and getting arrested. Heniretta's Origin is also in the works, I believe in the same book. Lastly, Henrietta running away with Jose and "Little Petra" hunting them down is a prelude to the Gunslinger Girl Game CDs with the "Fratello On The Run" mission. Throwing a couple more to the fire - a picture of Silvia (I believe) is on one of the Doujins, with Triela sleeping next to her. Pictures of "Angel Angie" seems to say that she would the first to die in the series, and may have been killed off then if it were not the repackaging of the material for a larger audience.

Its canon because Yu has recycled this material again and again, it was done by his hand, and sold by him with his approval and made money off it. Many authors have repackaged earlier works once they became famous, I can see Yu doing this, and from this evidence, has.

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Re: Cyborgs and Sex?

Post by BleepinFireman on Thu 25 Jul 2013 - 0:24

@Nagneto wrote:I'm pleased to see this forum isn't skidish about sexuality in this series. This is hardly relevant to the task at hand but the fanfiction I'm working on, I intend to use metaphor to express budding feelings of love, longing and such. I also intend to explore themes of abuse and guilt associated with such (mostly in the sense of the cyborgification of the girls and their handler's feelings about it).

Mind you it is only there to serve the purpose of making a statement at society's conniving and contradictory views on the subject.

 This is why I like the series in the first place
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