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Post by TheDudeAndTJ on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 1:14

so I'm back and i was wondering what your favorite guns are.
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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 1:23

Anything by Heckler & Koch.

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 2:17

Vintage

Auto Ordnance Thompson M1928
Haenel MP43/StG44
Krieghoff FG42
Lee-Enfield SMLE
Mauser C96

Modern

Alexander Arms .50 Beowulf
AMP DSR-1
Atchinson AA12
Barrett M82CQ
Glock 18
Heckler and Koch MP5
Heckler and Koch G3
Heckler and Koch 416
Heckler and Koch XM8
Steyr AUG
ST Kinetics SAR-21

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 2:26



Salad Shooter

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Post by maverick375 on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 9:27

Anything by Heckler & Koch.

Some of their stuff is okay, but their company attitude towards civilians is a thing of legend. I've heard stories of H&K pistols failing, to which their warranty number says "sorry, but you're obviously mistaken and just not using it right."
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My favorites that I own?
Mosin Nagant 91/30- The only rifle you can stab, shoot, or club your enemies all day long with and it'll never stop working.

S&W 686 4" .357- Absolutely fine piece of stainless steel. Dream to shoot.

S&W M&P 40- Love it.

Stoeger Cougar 9mm- The best "knock-off" gun I've ever found. All the fun and function of a Beretta, half the price.

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 10:16

Forgot to mention the Parabellum P08 in my vintage guns list. Go Luger.

Mav, I'm curious - how well does the Mosin hold up against other bolt-actions of its day, like, say, the Mauser or the Enfield?

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Post by maverick375 on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 12:35

Mav, I'm curious - how well does the Mosin hold up against other bolt-actions of its day, like, say, the Mauser or the Enfield
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Is this a serious question of performance or one of illustrating my personal bias? Smile
Performance wise the Mosin is average among the peers. Like most bolts, reliability of action is pretty damn good. It's simple and effective. my understanding is that the interrupter in the receiver was a fairly new concept when the design came around, something that other bolts of the day did not have and resulted in rim-lock jams.
Sights are adequate for the purpose, and in some cases the Soviet snipers used open sights rather than scopes. Even then, the PU scopes were very basic.
Accuracy was variable then and still is. It's a cheap, cobbled together rifle produced under considerable stress and time constraints. In the pre-war models, they are well-built and extremely accurate, as time was taken in their construction and fitting. That quality suffered, sometimes considerably, when they were jamming them out the door with almost no regard to how they performed beyond 100 yards, just to get them into conscript hands. Careful picking now can find good to great accuracy in "ugly" Mosins, and careless looking can find horrid performance in "pretty" ones.
My comment earlier was mainly in regard to ruggedness of the gun as a whole. It was, literally, designed to shoot first, stab if need be, and club the hell out of someone if all else fails. To that end, the steel butt-plate on it did the job well.
Enfields and K98s both probably have better collective accuracy than the Mosin, simply because of the methods and quality of production. I don't think I've ever heard of a crappy accuracy K98, and I've only heard a few gripes about certain models of Enfields being of lesser quality, mainly for the same reasons as the Mosin.
The K98's functionality is a bit less "user friendly" than the Mosin. Some have mentioned the safety on the K98 being loud and inconvenient in a hunting role.
The "big three" bolt rifles back then were largely equal in terms of effectiveness as a shooter. I'd still choose a good Mosin, though, if I figured to be in bayonette range of the enemy.

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 14:14

@maverick375 wrote:Is this a serious question of performance or one of illustrating my personal bias? Smile
How about both.

But thanks for outlining the Mosin's benefits - looks like that baby was the Kalashnikov of its day. Although I feel that if you're close enough to club or bayonet the other guy, you're too close period. I've seen some pretty spectacular fireballs result from firing the Mosin in low light; does this get problematic, and does it at all equal heavy muzzle blast?

I don't know about how loud the Mauser's safety can get; when I handled one way back then, I carefully operated it with two fingers, turning it down instead of slapping it down (I was a noob, you see, and opted to work the thing very gingerly) and that didn't produce much noise as I remember. Perhaps hunters ought to do the same? In the end, however, I think I'd rather have a deer get spooked by the 'click' than have the rifle accidentally going off on me.

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Post by Guest on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 15:34

My Top 10 favorite firearms
Assault Rifles/Carbines
10. AK-47
9. SA80
8. Steyr AUG
7. FAMAS
6. QBZ-95
5. Daewoo K2/K1
4. SAR 21
3. Howa Type 89
2. M16/M4
1. H&K G36

Sub-Machine Guns
10. MP-40
9. Thompson SMG
8. Uzi
7. MAC-10
6. Minebea PM-9
5. H&K MP5
4. H&K UMP
3. H&K MP7
2. FN P90
1. QCW-05

Handguns
10. ASP
9. Colt M1911
8. Daewoo K5
7. SIG-Sauer P220
4. SIG-Sauer P226
5. Beretta M92FS
4. Glock 17
3. Desert Eagle
2. H&K Mk.23
1. Para-Ordnance P14-45

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Post by MP5 on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 16:18

Classic/Contemporary/Vintage
M1 Garand
Gewehr 43
M14
FN FAL/L1A1/SLR
Browning Automatic Rifle
Browning M2
Colt M1911A1
Browning Hi-Power
Heckler & Koch G3
IMI UZI series
Walther PP series
Smith and Wesson Model 29
Winchester M1897
Winchester Model 1873
Colt Single Action Army
Enfield SMLE
Sten series of submachine guns
Sterling Mk5
Kalashnikov AK-47
Remington M700

Modern/Current
IMI Tavor Series
Heckler & Koch MP5 series
Heckler & Koch G36
Heckler & Koch USP series
Heckler & Koch PSG-1
Heckler & Koch UMP9/40/45
Heckler & Koch HK416
Heckler & Koch XM8
SIG-Sauer P226 series
SIG-Sauer 550 series
Accuracy International AW series
Remington M40A3
Remington MSR
Remington 870 series
Mossberg 500 series (esp. the 'Road Blocker' model)
Serbu Super Shorty
MPS AA12
TDI Kriss Super V
Ruger SR9
Ruger Mini-14/AC-556
Colt AR-15 (and all derivatives)
Kimber M1911 pistols
Benelli Super 90
Benelli M1014
M60E4 LMG
FN Minimi/M249
FN M240
FN SCAR-L/-H
FN P90
FN F2000
Barrett M82 series
Barrett M95/M99
Steyr AUG series
Robinson Armaments XCR
Magpul Masada/Bushmaster ACR
AMP DSR-1
CheyTac Intervention
Alexander Arms BeoWulf .50

more when I think of them...

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Post by maverick375 on Sun 31 Jul 2011 - 19:17

In Mosins, there are the long-barreled 91/30 (and variants) and the carbine-length M44 (actually a variant of the M38 from 1939).

the 91/30 originated in 1891 and was largely updated in 1930 (hence the designation M91/30). The Finns made the M24 variant(some of the most accurate due to Swiss and German barrels).
The 91/30 is long and somewhat heavy, resulting in little recoil if braced properly. Accuracy is good to 200 yards easy, and further with practice and skill. A joke I've used is that the 91/30 was designed to reach across the Volga and stab the Nazi's with the bayonet, rather than shoot them. They're pretty long with the pig-sticker attached.

The M44 is fun to shoot, but can beat you up. The shorter length results in about twice the felt recoil of the 91/30, not to mention increasing the report and muzzle flash. When I want to impress someone with a rifle's sound, I break out the M44. Standing at the shooter's four-o-clock, at ten feet, you feel a thump in your chest when it fires. Muzzle flash can also extend a couple of feet out of the barrel, depending on the load. If not positioned right, the butt-plate on it will bruise the shoulder, something I found out first hand and suffered from for a week.
An interesting side-effect of the M44's shorter barrel and bayonet combo is a drastic change in the barrel harmonics. They tend to shoot 2" left at 100yds unless the sticker is extended. I don't think the other, non-integral shorts had the same problem, but I could be wrong.

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Post by Alfisti on Mon 1 Aug 2011 - 3:26

@Professor Voodoo wrote:

Salad Shooter
For unleashing delicious finely sliced death?

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 1 Aug 2011 - 3:35

The zuchinni discs it fires are razor sharp.

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Post by maverick375 on Mon 1 Aug 2011 - 12:21

For unleashing delicious finely sliced death?

Revenge IS a dish that is best served cold.

I see no reason not to include a side salad and maybe some breadsticks as well.

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Post by Hondo Sackett on Mon 1 Aug 2011 - 19:53

Rifles:
Pedersoli
rolling block Sharps 45-120
winchester centennial 50-95
1884 Lightning .45 LC
1892
Model "El Dorado"
M1 Grande
Cattleman's Carbine .45 lc
Marlin lever-action 1894 .45lc, 44mag, .357 mag
Marlin lever-action 336 30-30
Marlin lever-action 1895 gbl .45-70
Marlin lever-action 1895 Cowboy .45-70
Marlin lever-action .444
Marlin lever-action .450 marlin


Shotguns:
1881 Hammerless Coach Gun 12 ga
1887 Lever action 12 ga
1897 Pump 12 ga

Pistol:
La Mat 9 shot .45 cal revolver + single shot 16 guage grapeshot barrel
Walsh Navy 12 shot revolver .36 cal
1860 Richards/Mason open top conversion .45 lc
1858 New Army .45 lc
1847 Walker .50
Whitneyville Dragoon .44-40
Model No. 3 Russian
Model No 3 schofield
1875 outlaw .45 lc
Model 1890 .45 lc
Ruger Vaquero .45 lc
Colt SSA .45 lc, 44-40
Colt Anaconda .45 lc
S&W 500
1911 M1 .50 gi
1911 M1 .45 acp
1911 M1 .38 super
1911 M2 .45 lc
1911 PDA .45 lc

Derringers:
Colt Enterprises Big Bore .38 special
Cimarron .38 special/ .32 H&R
Bond arms .45 lc/ .410 ga

Hybrid:
Ruger Circuit Judge carbine .45 lc/ .410 ga

Machine Gun:
Thompson M1 .45 acp
BAR 30-06
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