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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sat 7 Jul 2012 - 13:26

Kiskaloo wrote:
As abysmal weather meant an extended Red Flag, my DVR only recorded Q1 and Q2 up until the Red Flag, so I had to hit the web to find out how qualifying went.
I set my own machine up for an extra hour of over-run and still didn't see the re-start of Q2. They did air the dry morning P3 session though, so it wasn't a total waste.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 7 Jul 2012 - 14:52

Sad thing is I actually woke up ay 5:30AM so I almost just turned it on to watch live, but decided instead to go back to bed for three hours. sweat


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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 8 Jul 2012 - 14:20

2012 Formula 1 Santander British Grand Prix Results

Spoiler:

Fernando Alonso commands almost all of the race, but his soft tires don't hold out and Mark Webber is able to pass with four to go to secure his second win of 2012. Honestly, when I saw the race would be dry and Alonso would start on the hards, I expected him to get snowed under, so overall, a good run. Alonso continues to lead the Driver's Championship by 13 points and Ferrari moves past Lotus-Renault into 2nd place in the Constructor's Championship.

01 Mark Webber
02 Fernando Alonso
03 Sebastian Vettel
04 Felipe Massa
05 Kimi Räikkönen
06 Romain Grosjean
07 Michael Schumacher
08 Lewis Hamilton
09 Bruno Senna
10 Jenson Button

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Tue 10 Jul 2012 - 16:15

Kiskaloo wrote:2012 Formula 1 British Grand Prix
If I was trying to explain to a person how much of a strategic "chess match" modern F1 is I would show them a review of this race. Webber & Red Bull played the tire game perfectly...even though I think Alonso had more outright speed.

Such a sharp contrast with last year; Mark is definite title contender, although if Red Bull really hits their stride and regains last year's advantage the pendulum could swing back to Vettel. Still, if I had to bet my money would be on Alonso for the drivers' title this year. He always comes on strong in the second half of the season...but this year he's laid down a good foundation during the first half.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 17 Jul 2012 - 11:03

After talking with Ferrari, Mark Webber decided to extend his contract with Red Bull another year.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/formula1/18780239

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sat 21 Jul 2012 - 20:17

German Grand Prix Qualifying:
Spoiler:
1. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 40.621s
2. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1m 41.026s
3. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1m 41.496s*
4. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 42.459s
5. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1m 43.501s
6. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1m 43.950s
7. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 44.113s
8. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 44.186s
9. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1m 44.889s
10. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1m 45.811s

11. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 39.789s
12. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1m 39.933s
13. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1m 39.985s
14. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 40.212s
15. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1m 40.574s*
16. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault 1m 40.752s
17. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 41.551s*

18. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 16.741s
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1m 17.620s
20. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1m 18.531s
21. Charles Pic France Marussia -Cosworth 1m 19.220s
22. Timo Glock Germany Marussia -Cosworth 1m 19.291s
23. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1m 19.912s
24. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1m 20.230s

Drivers will take 5-grid spot penalty for gearbox change.

Kara will have every reason to be happy. Alonso was the last driver out on track setting a hot lap, and even though he already held the top spot, which nobody managed to beat he still finished the lap and beat his own time by 3/10 second. His crew could have waved him off, Fernando already had pole locked up...but not doing so will send shivers down the spines of his rivals. Alonso was having fun out there, and the Ferrari is good enough that he feels he can safely push it even when there's no reason to do so. If it rains he'll be hard to beat tomorrow.

Dark horse possibility? Maybe Schumacher starting from third (after Webber's gearbox penalty). Germany would be a great place to see him return to the top step.
I attended a few races at Hockenheim in the late 90's (World Superbike Championship & FIA GT Championship). Not my favorite track in the world, but a terrific place to camp. It's surrounded by a huge old-growth forest...rare in Europe these days. Walk just a few hundred yards away from the world of ultra-modern racing and you could easily imagine yourself transported back 1000 years to Medieval Germany. Nice contrast after a day at the track.

I only got to run Hockenheim once, and not even a full session. Just when I was learning the track and getting up to speed some other rider fell and oiled the track down...ending my only session prematurely.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 23 Jul 2012 - 1:30

German Grand Prix, Results;
Spoiler:
1. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari-Ferrari 1hr 31m 05.862s
2. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes +0m 06.9s
3. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault +0m 16.4s
4. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari +0m 21.9s
5. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault +0m 23.7s #
6. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari +0m 27.8s
7. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes-Mercedes +0m 28.9s
8. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault +0m 46.9s
9. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes +0m 48.1s
10. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes-Mercedes +0m 48.8s

11. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes +0m 59.2s
12. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari +1m 11.4s
13. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari +1m 16.8s
14. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault +1m 16.9s
15. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault +1 lap
16. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault +1 lap
17. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault +1 lap
18. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault +2 laps
19 Charles Pic France Marussia -Cosworth +2 laps
20. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth +3 laps
21. Timo Glock Germany Marussia -Cosworth +3 laps
23. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth +3 laps

Rtd Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 56 laps completed


Kara: (collecting her money) I'm liking how this season is turning out. Two out of the last three for Fernando. If it wasn't for that tire miscalculation at Silverstone he'd have 3-in a row!

Triela: *sigh* At least Vettel took 2nd.

Allison: Not so fast...he got a 20 second penalty for passing Jenson off the track.

Triela: Whhhaaa!?! Sebastian, why couldn't you be more patient? Button's tires were shot!

Marisa: Well, I'm happy with the result.

Kara: Why? Your Toro Rosso guys had a lousy day...zero points.

Marisa: Yeah, but Elio's Williams team had an even lousier day. Since neither team got points we go to average finish and I win the choice of lunch place on Monday!

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 23 Jul 2012 - 1:59

Spoiler:

Yes, running the softs at the start seemed to be the right call as the Ferrari appears to like the harder tires.

I do wonder if Red Bull really was using an illegal exhaust mapping and if that played a role in Webber running down Alonso at Silverstone. Both Red Bulls looked pretty squirrelly in Germany, so I wonder if they turned it off...

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 27 Jul 2012 - 21:02

What is it with rain and motorsport in 2012?

For Forumla One, it pours during the Malaysian Grand Prix as well as practice and qualifying for the British, German and Hungarian (at least for practice - we shall see how qualifying turns out) Grands Prix. Now watching Grand Am at Indianapolis and it's pouring there.

There was the Sibiu Rally Romania on 20–22 July where it was so dry that only the lead car could put in a competitive run as the rest of the field had to slow for dust, but that seems the aberration this season.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sat 28 Jul 2012 - 19:34

Hungarian Grand Prix Qualifying;
Spoiler:
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 20.953s
2. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1m 21.366s
3. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1m 21.416s
4. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 21.583s
5. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1m 21.730s
6. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 21.844s
7. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 20.900s
8. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1m 21.939s
9. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault 1m 22.343s
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 1m 22.847s

11. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1m 21.715s
12. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1m 21.813s
13. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 21.895s
14. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1m 21.895s
15. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1m 22.300s
16. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 22.380s
17. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 22.723s

18. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 23.250s
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1m 23.576s
20. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1m 24.167s
21. Charles Pic France Marussia -Cosworth 1m 25.244s
22. Timo Glock Germany Marussia -Cosworth 1m 25.476s
23. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1m 25.916s
24. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1m 26.178s

Hamilton was fast in all practice sessions, but could this be the race Lotus breaks through for a win? This is the track where the Enstone team (then called Renault) took Fernando Alonso to a front row start & his first victory in 2003.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 29 Jul 2012 - 19:53

...and Hungarian GP results;
Spoiler:
1. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1hr 41m 05.503s
2. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault +0m 01.0s
3. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault +0m 10.5s
4. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault +0m 11.6s
5. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari-Ferrari +0m 26.6s
6. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes +0m 30.2s
7. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault +0m 33.8s
8. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault +0m 34.4s
9. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari +0m 38.3s
10. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes-Mercedes +0m 51.2s

11. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes +0m 57.2s
12. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes +1m 02.8s
13. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault +1m 03.6s
14. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari +1m 04.4s
15. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari +1 lap
16. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari +1 lap
17. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault +1 lap
18. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari +2 laps
19. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault +2 laps
20. Charles Pic France Marussia -Cosworth +2 laps
21. Timo Glock Germany Marussia -Cosworth +3 laps
22. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth +3 laps

Rtd Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 61 laps completed
Rtd Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 58 laps completed

Allison: Alright, that's three wins for McLaren...

Kara: ...three wins for Ferrari...

Triela: ...and three wins for Red Bull.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 29 Jul 2012 - 19:59

All three girls will now have to save up their allowances during the Summer Break. Smile

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 4 Aug 2012 - 19:39

WRC Neste Oil Rally Finland SS5 Video Spoiler

Spoiler:

Watching highlights of Day 1 and 2 and Evgeny Novikov rolled his Fiesta in SS5, but he managed to not only get the car back on the road, but completed the stage and got the car to the Service Park so they could fix it!



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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 13 Aug 2012 - 16:16

Toyota looks ready to get their mud-flaps dirty again...Toyota Confirms Rally Return.

Don't get too excited; it's not a full-fledged factory WRC entry yet, but hopefully it will lead to bigger things.

I drove a rental Yaris on gravel and slippery sand-blown asphalt and found it pretty entertaining...all the while thinking I wonder if this would make a good rally car?

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 31 Aug 2012 - 11:50

After the Summer Break, Formula 1 is back in action at Spa, though with the track looking like New Orleans at the moment, not much happened for Free Practice 1 and 2. The weather is said to be better the rest of the weekend, though.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Fri 31 Aug 2012 - 17:10

Kiskaloo wrote:After the Summer Break, Formula 1 is back in action at Spa, though with the track looking like New Orleans at the moment, not much happened for Free Practice 1 and 2. The weather is said to be better the rest of the weekend, though.
Kara: I've got good news and bad news for you, Mari.

Marisa: What's the good news?

Kara: Your Toro Rosso boys took 3rd & 4th in Friday practice.

Marisa: Yes! Umm...what's the bad news?

Kara: One of Elio's Williams' got 2nd fastest.

Marisa: %#^&*!

1. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 2m 11.389s
2. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 2m 11.941s
3. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 2m 12.004s
4. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 2m 12.824s
5. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 2m 13.191s
6. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 2m 13.861s
7. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 2m 14.210s
8. Valtteri Bottas Finland Williams-Renault 2m 14.660s
9. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 2m 14.860s
10. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 2m 15.402s
11. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 2m 15.812s
12. Timo Glock Germany Marussia-Cosworth 2m 16.409s
13. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 2m 16.786s
14. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 2m 16.788s
15. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 2m 16.827s
16. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 2m 16.861s
17. Charles Pic France Marussia -Cosworth 2m 17.519s
18. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 2m 18.199s
19. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 2m 19.546s
20. Dani Clos Spain HRT-Cosworth 2m 19.689s
21. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 2m 38.701s
22. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari-Ferrari 2m 40.749s
23. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 2m 46.580s
24. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari no time
25. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault no time
26. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth no time

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 2 Sep 2012 - 11:30

Grand Prix of Belgium Results

Spoiler:

(10 Seconds Into the Race)

Triela: "Where are you going?"
Kara: "The race is over. I'm going to finish my chemistry homework."
Triela: "Massa is still running."
Kara: "Who?"
Triela: ...ugh.

(Race End)

Marisa: "Yes! Finally I get to pick where to go for lunch!"
Allison (collecting €10 notes): "Good to see Jenson win from pole, but no points for Lewis hurts his chances for the Championship."
Triela: "And second place for my man moves him up to #2 in the Driver’s Championship."





In other news, Grand Am Rolex Sports Car Series and the American Le Mans Series have agreed to merge their two road racing championships: http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/sportscar-alms-grand-am-finalizing-merger/


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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 2 Sep 2012 - 16:58

Kiskaloo wrote:Grand Prix of Belgium Results
Elio: *groan* Do I win anything if Maldonado sets the record for most grid-spot penalties in a single season?

Marisa: Sure you do. (hands him the lunch cheque) You get to pay.
In other news, Grand Am Rolex Sports Car Series and the American Le Mans Series have agreed to merge their two road racing championships: http://auto-racing.speedtv.com/article/sportscar-alms-grand-am-finalizing-merger/
Interesting...ALMS has the more interesting formula, but Grand-Am has been more succesful in terms of car count. Whatever they do I hope they maintain 4 classes on track. I've always considered Grand-Am's attitude that "The poor dumb fans can't keep 4 classes straight...lets cut it down to two" pretty insulting.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 7 Sep 2012 - 11:20

Romain Grosjean will be sitting out the Italian Grand Prix for causing the accident at Spa that took himself out along with Fernando Alonso and Lewis Hamilton. Backup driver Jérôme d'Ambrosio will be driving the car.

Fernando Alonso's gearbox gave up the ghost in Free Practice 2, however he is allowed to change it without penalty since the cars are not yet in parc fermé conditions (that will happen when they take to the track for qualifying).

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 8 Sep 2012 - 10:32

Meanwhile, at Taverna Tifosi....

Grand Prix of Italy Qualifying

Spoiler:

Allison: "Yes! Yes! Yes! McLaren front row!"
Triela: "At least Vettel made it to Q3."
Kara: "A bottle of your best 151 rum, please, Mr. Alboreto. Now I just need to hope Alonso can time the lights as well as Maldanado did last week."

1 Lewis Hamilton
2 Jenson Button
3 Felipe Massa
4 Paul di Resta
5 Michael Schumacher
6 Sebastian Vettel
7 Nico Rosberg
8 Kimi Räikkönen
9 Kamui Kobayashi
10 Fernando Alonso
11 Mark Webber
12 Pastor Maldonado
13 Sergio Pérez
14 Bruno Senna
15 Daniel Ricciardo
16 Jérôme d'Ambrosio
17 Jean-Éric Vergne
18 Heikki Kovalainen
19 Vitaly Petrov
20 Timo Glock
21 Charles Pic
22 Narain Karthikeyan
23 Pedro de la Rosa
24 Nico Hülkenberg

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 9 Sep 2012 - 0:18

Yeah, hopefully I'll get to catch this race...the satellite TV is finally working on this barge.
Kiskaloo wrote:Kara: "A bottle of your best 151 rum, please, Mr. Alboreto.
Elio: (looks at Kara's fake ID) You don't actually think I'm going to fall for this, do you?

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 9 Sep 2012 - 0:22

Professor Voodoo wrote:Yeah, hopefully I'll get to catch this race...the satellite TV is finally working on this barge.
Kiskaloo wrote:Kara: "A bottle of your best 151 rum, please, Mr. Alboreto.
Elio: (looks at Kara's fake ID) You don't actually think I'm going to fall for this, do you?

Kara: "The Drinking Age in Italy is 16, Mr. Alboreto. And I'd really rather not remember today. Plus, Allison is the Designated Driver."

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 9 Sep 2012 - 10:35

2012 Italian Grand Prix Results

Spoiler:


Did you notice all the Lega Nord / Padania flags in the crowd? Smile




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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 10 Sep 2012 - 0:37

Kiskaloo wrote:2012 Italian Grand Prix Results


Did you notice all the Lega Nord / Padania flags in the crowd? Smile
No ...satellite aboard the barge was out again. This should be the last race I miss though, I'll be back home in New York in two weeks.

I had actually dared to hope for a Cinderella-story win for Massa...but it looks like he had a decent race even if he missed the podium. Did he pull aside for Alonso again?




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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 10 Sep 2012 - 10:43

Professor Voodoo wrote:I had actually dared to hope for a Cinderella-story win for Massa...but it looks like he had a decent race even if he missed the podium. Did he pull aside for Alonso again?

He snookered Button at the start and was running 2nd until his first pit stop. He made it back up to third, which is where he stayed most of the race, until Perez and then Alonso got by him, but I do think his tires were giving up the ghost by then and Alonso did have the fastest car on the grid (breaking the anti-roll bar in Q3 is what scuppered him) so I do not believe it was team orders - after all, if Massa really is out, why stand aside for Alonso? All-in-all, though, this was much like the Massa of pre-Hungary, which is good.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 22 Sep 2012 - 10:48

2012 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix Qualifying

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01 Lewis Hamilton
02 Pastor Maldonado
03 Sebastian Vettel
04 Jenson Button
05 Fernando Alonso
06 Paul di Resta
07 Mark Webber
08 Romain Grosjean
09 Michael Schumacher
10 Nico Rosberg
11 Nico Hülkenberg
12 Kimi Räikkönen
13 Felipe Massa
14 Sergio Pérez
15 Daniel Ricciardo
16 Jean-Éric Vergne
17 Bruno Senna
18 Kamui Kobayashi
19 Vitaly Petrov
20 Heikki Kovalainen
21 Timo Glock
22 Charles Pic
23 Narain Karthikeyan
24 Pedro de la Rosa



Allison: "Four for Four in Poles, baby! Now let's win this thing tomorrow, Lewis!"
Kara (via FaceTime from the infinity edge pool at the Skypark of the Marina Bay Sands hotel): "Well Alonso went from 10th to 3rd at Monza, so from fifth he could have a chance - he has won twice here, after all)."
Triela: "Third for Vettel? After dominating Free Practice 1, 2 and 3!"
Allison: "Speaking of third, he could have been third on the All-Time Pole List, but maybe next week." *smiles sweetly*
Marisa: "Forget pole - Maldonado in second! Second!" (Looks forlornly at her allowance for the week.)

In other news, looks like the provisional note for Singapore on the 2013 Calendar is superfluous as a new five-year deal was signed this weekend, though the race may not continue to be held at the Marina Bay Street Circuit.

Massa and Senna didn't have a very good qualifying. I think Senna should be worried about being able to stay with Williams, but I think Massa may very well be safe at Ferrari. It's pretty much assumed that Vettel is going to the Scuderia in 2014 to pair with Alonso, so there is no way Perez will go to Ferrari for one year just to then be shown the door. Kobayashi might be an option, but Sauber is a solid team. As such, I think Ferrari might keep Massa for one more year.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 11:59

2012 Formula 1 SingTel Singapore Grand Prix

Spoiler:




Triela: "Okay. Now I feel better." (collects 10 Euro notes)

Allison: "Back to back DNFs for McLaren? There is no God.

Marisa: "Oh yes there is. Both Williams out with mechanical failures and Ricardo in the points!" (Looks happily at her allowance.)

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 23 Sep 2012 - 17:13

Kiskaloo wrote:2012 Formula 1 Singapore Grand Prix

Spoiler:
Slight ammendment to the results; Webber caught a 20 second penalty, dropping him from 10th to 11th (he cut the course on an overtake of Kobayashi late in the race)...Perez moves up into the points.

In Japan, Schumacher gets a 10 grid spot penalty for running into Vergne.

Something certainly appears to have re-awakened in Massa these last two races.

Triela: Okay, Mark loses a point, but that does nothing to dull the sweet taste of victory.

Kara: Yeah, well Alonso still has the points lead. You're all going to be eating pasta at season's end.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 24 Sep 2012 - 13:54

Ending speculation they would leave F1 at the end of this year, Mercedes AMG have announced they are ready to sign the 2012 Concorde Agreement.

Now that Mercedes' future in F1 looks to be confirmed, this should clear the way for Lewis Hamilton to sign a contract to drive for the squad in 2013 if he wishes to.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Thu 27 Sep 2012 - 10:34

More on next year's lineups...

Citroën Racing has confirmed they will remain in the World Rally Championship through 2013 but Sebastien Loeb will scale back to running only a partial schedule. This might explain why Mikko Hirvonen was so eager to move to the team, even though it meant going from Ford's #1 driver to living in Loeb's shadow...he was promised it was only going to be for one year.
Loeb is linked with a possible Citroën entry into the World Touring Car Championship in 2014-15!

And in other news, Bentley is preparing a GT3 car; to be ready hopefully by the end of the 2013 season.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 27 Sep 2012 - 10:41

Professor Voodoo wrote:And in other news, Bentley is preparing a GT3 car; to be ready hopefully by the end of the 2013 season.



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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 28 Sep 2012 - 9:42

Kara: "Time to have Hilshire teach you Das Lied der Deutschen, Allison."

As rumored, Lewis Hamilton has signed for Mercedes AMG for 2013-2015, replacing the departing Michael Schumacher. Sergio Perez will replace him at McLaren.

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Post by Alfisti on Fri 28 Sep 2012 - 9:51

Kiskaloo wrote:Ending speculation they would leave F1 at the end of this year, Mercedes AMG have announced they are ready to sign the 2012 Concorde Agreement.
Speaking of Mercedes, looks like from next year they'll be joining Nissan in helping to spice up the V8 Supercars.



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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 28 Sep 2012 - 9:52

V8 Supercars is not as bonkers at BTCC, but I do enjoy watching the races on SPEED.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Fri 28 Sep 2012 - 13:00

Kiskaloo wrote:Kara: "Time to have Hilshire teach you Das Lied der Deutschen, Allison."
Allison: Later, Kara...I'm busy learning Himno Nacional Mexicano.
Lewis Hamilton has signed for Mercedes AMG for 2013-2015, replacing the departing Michael Schumacher.
If I was a betting man I'd have wagered against that. I figured all the Merecdes hype was just a tactic by Hamilton's managers to squeeze McLaren for extra concessions.
Sergio Perez will replace him at McLaren.
And that announcement came awfully quick...considering McLaren claimed they had no back-up plan should Hamilton leave (the British paper The Mail on Sunday did advance this possibility last week).

By this move Perez is not only cutting his Ferrari ties, but possibly his ties with Carlos Slim and the TELMEX money that's been backing him (unless TELMEX & Vodaphone have some sort of merger/partnership deal).
Alfisti wrote:Speaking of Mercedes, looks like from next year they'll be joining Nissan in helping to spice up the V8 Supercars.
When you posted that I had to check my calender. Nope..it's not April first. This should be interesting.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 28 Sep 2012 - 13:11

Professor Voodoo wrote:By this move Perez is not only cutting his Ferrari ties, but possibly his ties with Carlos Slim and the TELMEX money that's been backing him (unless TELMEX & Vodaphone have some sort of merger/partnership deal).

If Vettel is going to the Scuderia in 2014 to partner Alonso, that meant Perez at best had one year with the team (replacing Massa for 2013) - and Ferrari was on record saying they didn't think he was ready to join the team. So I can understand him feeling that Ferrari was not an option for him.

As to the Telmex money, Perez doesn't need that with McLaren, who will pay him a salary (and saving a mint compared to what they would have had to pay Hamilton).

Esteban Gutiérrez is the reserve driver for Sauber and he's Mexican, so I expect Telmex will now back him and he'll be promoted from the Lotus GP2 team to replace Perez at Sauber.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Fri 28 Sep 2012 - 17:11

You know who really must be grinning right now; Jenson Button.

He's just been guaranteed another two years at least with McLaren...as #1 driver for as long as he can hold onto the role. Furthermore, while he always seemed to get along very well with Lewis Hamilton their styles are widely different. Button is generally regarded as one of the smoothest drivers...Hamilton is famous for grabbing the car by the scruff of the neck and forcing it to do his will. Car design & setup had to be a compromise between the two styles.

Now, Button will have a car designed around him. Perez will probably do well with a car designed for a smooth driver too. Sauber has been getting very good tire life this season, which implies to me that their car rewards smooth driving, so that's what Perez has experienced with.

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Post by Alfisti on Sun 30 Sep 2012 - 2:12

Professor Voodoo wrote:
Alfisti wrote:Speaking of Mercedes, looks like from next year they'll be joining Nissan in helping to spice up the V8 Supercars.
When you posted that I had to check my calender. Nope..it's not April first. This should be interesting.
Speaking of marques entering places you wouldn't expect them in a manner you wouldn't expect them to. This was on the cover of the latest Lotus Club mag:



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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 30 Sep 2012 - 9:33

Alfisti wrote:
Professor Voodoo wrote:
Alfisti wrote:Speaking of Mercedes, looks like from next year they'll be joining Nissan in helping to spice up the V8 Supercars.
When you posted that I had to check my calender. Nope..it's not April first. This should be interesting.
Speaking of marques entering places you wouldn't expect them in a manner you wouldn't expect them to. This was on the cover of the latest Lotus Club mag:
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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 2 Oct 2012 - 18:42

Speaking of Bentley and motorsports, Kris Meeke and James May drove a Bentley Continental on the Sweet Lamb stage of the Wales Rally.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 7 Oct 2012 - 0:37

Japanese Grand Prix; Qualifying
Spoiler:
1. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1m 30.839s
2. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 1m 31.090s
3. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 31.290s*
4. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1m 31.700s
5. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 1m 31.898s
6. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 1m 32.022s
7. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 32.114s
8. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 1m 32.208s
9. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 32.327s
10. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes no time Q3*

11. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 1m 32.293s
12. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1m 32.327s
13. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 32.469s **
14. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1m 32.512s
15. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 32.625s
16. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 32.954s
17. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 33.368s

18. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault 1m 33.405s
19. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1m 34.657s
20. Timo Glock Germany Marussia -Cosworth 1m 32.213s
21. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 1m 35.385s
22. Charles Pic France Marussia -Cosworth 1m 35.429s
23. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1m 35.432s
24. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 1m 36.734s

107 per cent time: 1m 38.471s

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Kara: Fernando, what happened!?

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 7 Oct 2012 - 10:08

2012 Japanese Grand Prix Results

Spoiler:



Triela: "And so the march to Vettel's third consecutive DC begins!"

Kara: "Well, I'm off to church with Agapita."

Claes: "I didn't think you were religious."

Kara: "Two 1st corner DNFs in three races for Alonso? I need to invoke Divine Intervention!"

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Marisa: "Grr. Maldonado ahead of Ricardo. Farewell allowance, I barely knew thee!"

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Spoiler:

Personally, I think Vettel has his third straight DC in hand. With the new Red Bull double DRS he should be a favorite for pole position at everywhere but Austin (and then only because nobody has any track data). So he should be well-positioned to win or score well for the rest of the season, which should put him in an unassailable position.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 7 Oct 2012 - 17:52

And once again, Talladega does not disappoint. As soon as they went G - W - C I knew it would not end well. Seriously, they should call it G-W-W for Green - White - Wreck. Razz

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 8 Oct 2012 - 3:13

Kiskaloo wrote:2012 Japanese Grand Prix Results
General Commentary

Personally, I think Vettel has his third straight DC in hand. With the new Red Bull double DRS he should be a favorite for pole position at everywhere but Austin (and then only because nobody has any track data). So he should be well-positioned to win or score well for the rest of the season, which should put him in an unassailable position.
Well, I put my money on Alonso earlier this season and I'll stick to it. He's had some bum luck these last few races but nobody can pull out late season magic like he can.

Marisa: Damn...fine time for Maldonado to decide to score some points again.

Allison: At least your Toro Rosso boys have working gearboxes...what might have been, Jenson.

Kara: (fingering Agapita's rosary beads) So how do I get these things to sync with my iPhone?

In other news, salute to Seb Loeb for clinching his 9th World Championship. He is clearly the best automobile driver alive on the face of the Earth today, and that is no overstatement.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 8 Oct 2012 - 10:40

Professor Voodoo wrote:Well, I put my money on Alonso earlier this season and I'll stick to it. He's had some bum luck these last few races but nobody can pull out late season magic like he can.

Well the Red Bull has shown to be unreliable at times, so one never knows, but starting on pole is a good way to stay out of the carnage (Alonso's DNFs have been because he was back in the field at the start and was taken out in collisions).

Professor Voodoo wrote:In other news, salute to Seb Loeb for clinching his 9th World Championship. He is clearly the best automobile driver alive on the face of the Earth today, and that is no overstatement.

Which is why I am glad he is retiring. He is just so much better than any other WRC driver that he can only lose a race if he suffers a mechanical failure and the DS3 is reliable enough that he'll win enough to guarantee the championship. So one only watched WRC to see who finished behind him or for the wrecks.

And that FIM race in Magny-Cours was something.


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Marisa: Damn...fine time for Maldonado to decide to score some points again.

Allison: At least your Toro Rosso boys have working gearboxes...what might have been, Jenson.

Kara: (fingering Agapita's rosary beads) So how do I get these things to sync with my iPhone?

http://www.bigriversoftware.com/Rosary%20Guide.html

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 12 Oct 2012 - 15:39

Well for 2013 those of us in the United States can sleep in on Grand Prix weekends as NBC has won the broadcast rights for the 2013 Formula One season. SPEED itself is also being terminated, to become the FOX Sports 1 channel. While NASCAR will remain, they will also show MLB Baseball and College Football:

While Fox has declined to comment on its planned channel, people familiar with the matter said the company will convert its niche sports channel called Speed into a broad-based sports network.

Besides baseball, Fox will also put NASCAR racing, college football, soccer and Ultimate Fighting on its cable channel. The working name for the channel is Fox Sports 1.

While NBC has done okay with the IndyCar and ALMS races I have seen, there is no way they will be showing races live (outside of Canada, United States and Brazil) on the main channel. They do have the NBC Sports Channel (formerly VS when it was owned by Comcast) so maybe they'll keep them live on that one.

Oh well. Could have been worse... *cough* CBS *cough*


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Post by MP5 on Fri 12 Oct 2012 - 16:22

Kiskaloo wrote:Well for 2013 those of us in the United States can sleep in on Grand Prix weekends as NBC has won the broadcast rights for the 2013 Formula One season.


All this because Fox wants to turn Speed into another frigging Sports Channel. Also, Will Buxton just found out via Twitter that he's losing his trackside reporting job. No one told him, which is a dick move.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 12 Oct 2012 - 17:22

SPEED themselves apparently only just found out - they made no mention of it during the Free Practice 2 broadcast and SPEED.com just has a comment from a FOX Sports Media Group spokesman. In this age of instant communication, not surprising Will found out via the Internet before FOX SMG could contact him.




In other news, having successfully achieved FIA homologation for the John Cooper Works Special, Mini is folding their factory WRC team at the end of the season now that customer teams can carry the brand forward while they continue to dilute the brand. Angry

And Bernie has lowered the sanctioning fee for Korea, allowing the GP to be renewed for another four years (now through 2016) to the consternation and disappointment of everyone not Korean. Smile

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 14 Oct 2012 - 16:35

2012 Korean Grand Prix Results

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Triela: "Watch it and weep. Vettel will not be denied his third straight WC!"

Kara: "Ferrari in 3rd and 4th, which moves them past McLaren in the Constructor's Cup! Nice to see my prayers worked. I wonder if I will see Felipe Massa at mass this week, as well?"

Marisa: "It was worth braving the nuns! 8th and 9th for Toro Rosso and no Williams in the Top 10! Mexican Pizza for everyone!"

Allison: "WTF is wrong with McLaren? Maybe Mercedes isn't such a bad move for Lewis after all..."

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Still believe Vettel has his third WC in the bag. RBR is at maximum pace and nothing can touch them. Baring bad weather or a mechanical failure, I think Vettel has a good shot at sweeping the rest of the races.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 22 Oct 2012 - 13:27

2012 Rally d'Italia Sardegna Results

With Monty "conveniently" on bed rest following her latest 50km service, Elio and Jethro chaperoned some of the girls to the second largest Mediterranean island to take in the 11th round of the 2012 WRC season under pleasant conditions.

Spoiler:

Sardinia was a high-attrition event. Stage 3 saw World Champion Sebastien Loeb crash out with a broken steering arm and Thierry Neuville half-roll his DS3 and partially blocking the course, forcing a following Petter Solberg to thread the needle. Stage 4 effectively took out Jari-Matti Latvala as he plowed into a gate surrounding a wind farm. Petter Solberg was then effectively out in Stage 5 after clipping a stone and breaking his steering.

All the carnage allowed Mikko Hirvonen to take it easy and cruise to his first win as a Citroën driver. And with three factory cars out of the top spots, this allowed a good battle between the two M-Sport Team drivers for 2nd with Evgeny Novikov over Ott Tänak. And Mads Ostberg made up for a dismal Friday with a great run on Saturday, moving from 6th to 4th with multiple Stage wins.

I found the bit about Pace Notes really interesting.


In other WRC news, Ford has joined Mini in withdrawing their factory team. They will provide support for the M-Sport Team in 2013 (as Mini will support Prodrive's effort). With Ford gone, Jari-Maiti Latvia will team with Sebastien Ogier at VW's factory team for 2013.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 28 Oct 2012 - 8:18

Indian Grand Prix; results
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1. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 60 laps 1hr 31m 10.744s
2. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari-Ferrari 0m 09.4s
3. Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 0m 13.2s
4. Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 0m 13.9s
5. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 0m 26.2s
6. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari 0m 44.6s
7. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 0m 45.2s
8. Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 0m 54.9s
9. Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 0m 56.1s
10. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault 1m 14.9s

11. Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 1m 21.6s
12. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes 1m 22.8s
13. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1m 26.0s
14. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari 1m 26.4s
15. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1 lap
16. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault 1 lap
17. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault 1 lap
18. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault 1 lap
19. Charles Pic France Marussia -Cosworth 1 laps
20. Timo Glock Germany Marussia -Cosworth 2 laps
21. Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 2 laps

Rtd. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 55 laps completed
Rtd. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth 42 laps completed
Rtd. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari 20 laps completed

Fastest lap:
Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes 1m 28.203s lap 60

Kara: Hang in there, Fernando! There's still 3 races to go!

Allison: *sigh* I think my guys are too far out of it now. At least Button snatched fastest lap from Vettel on the last tour.

Triela: (says nothing...just wears a smug grin)

Kara: Oh, out with it! I know you want to say something smart-ass.

Triela: Oh, I was just thinking about something I heard over at the Medical building yesterday. Seems they're trying to get Adrian Newey to come sort out all the design flaws with you Series Two cyborgs.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 28 Oct 2012 - 10:41

Spoiler:

Alonso looked good, but I remain convinced Vettel will win out the season and take his third championship.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Wed 31 Oct 2012 - 15:17

F1 driver status updates; Hulkenberg is confirmed at Sauber next year...no surprise there. No change at Toro Rosso for 2013...Vergne & Ricciardo keep their seats.

Marisa: That's okay I guess, although I wish they have at least tried to poach someone like Alonso, Vettel or Hamilton from the big teams.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 31 Oct 2012 - 16:23

Professor Voodoo wrote:F1 driver status updates; Hulkenberg is confirmed at Sauber next year...no surprise there.

And I'm sure Gutierrez will get promoted to replace Kobayashi thanks to his Telmex money.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Wed 31 Oct 2012 - 18:02

Kiskaloo wrote:
Professor Voodoo wrote:F1 driver status updates; Hulkenberg is confirmed at Sauber next year...no surprise there.

And I'm sure Gutierrez will get promoted to replace Kobayashi thanks to his Telmex money.
It's a shame Davide Valsecchi's name isn't being mentioned in connection to any race seats. 25 does not seem too old to be beyond consideration.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 31 Oct 2012 - 18:20

Professor Voodoo wrote:It's a shame Davide Valsecchi's name isn't being mentioned in connection to any race seats. 25 does not seem too old to be beyond consideration.

While he finally won the GP2 championship, it took him five years to do it and that probably hasn't helped him, much as it didn't help Giorgio Pantano in 2008 when he finally took the title after four years trying.

The idea of GP2 is to come in, kick arse, win the Championship and get promoted to Formula One, not treat it as a career. Wink

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 4 Nov 2012 - 11:59

Abu Dhabi Grand Prix; results
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Triela: Well, nobody won the money, and Alonso beat my guy for second, but I'm gonna call this one a strategic victory. Fernando gained points, but not as many as he could have.

Kara: Why couldn't Button have held off Vettel for 3rd?

Allison: It's Alonso's own damn fault! When he pulled over 1 second gap on Button he left him with no DRS...your guy left my guy out there like a sitting duck and lost ground in the championship for it.

Kara: Whhhaaa? It's my team's fault that your guy got passed?

1. Kimi Raikkonen Finland Lotus-Renault 55 laps 1hr 45m 58.667s
2. Fernando Alonso Spain Ferrari-Ferrari +0m 00.8s
3. Jenson Button Britain McLaren-Mercedes +0m 04.1s
4. Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault +0m 07.7s
5. Pastor Maldonado Venezuela Williams-Renault +0m 13.0s
6. Kamui Kobayashi Japan Sauber-Ferrari +0m 20.0s
7. Felipe Massa Brazil Ferrari-Ferrari +0m 22.8s
8. Bruno Senna Brazil Williams-Renault +0m 23.5s
9. Paul di Resta Britain Force India-Mercedes +0m 24.1s
10. Daniel Ricciardo Australia Toro Rosso-Ferrari +0m 27.4s

11. Michael Schumacher Germany Mercedes-Mercedes +0m 28.0s
12. Jean-Eric Vergne France Toro Rosso-Ferrari +0m 34.9s
13. Heikki Kovalainen Finland Caterham-Renault +0m 47.7s
14. Timo Glock Germany Marussia -Cosworth +0m 56.4s
15. Vitaly Petrov Russia Caterham-Renault +0m 56.7s
16. Pedro de la Rosa Spain HRT-Cosworth +1m 04.5s
17. Sergio Perez Mexico Sauber-Ferrari +1m 11.7s

Rtd Charles Pic France Marussia -Cosworth 41 laps completed
Rtd Romain Grosjean France Lotus-Renault 37 laps completed
Rtd Mark Webber Australia Red Bull-Renault 37 laps completed
Rtd Lewis Hamilton Britain McLaren-Mercedes 19 laps completed
Rtd Narain Karthikeyan India HRT-Cosworth 7 laps completed
Rtd Nico Rosberg Germany Mercedes-Mercedes 7 laps completed
Rtd Nico Hulkenberg Germany Force India-Mercedes 0 laps completed

Fastest lap:
Sebastian Vettel Germany Red Bull-Renault 1m 43.964s lap 54


Unfortunate to see Hamilton lose what looked like an easy victory, but Raikkonen's victory is no less deserved.

Of course, it's not really the same team but the Lotus name at the top of the podium is something I thought I'd never see again. Enstone & Raikkonen honoured Colin's legacy well today.

Finally, this was the first time I actually enjoyed the new podium interviews idea. Coulthard interacted well with the guys.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 4 Nov 2012 - 12:21

Spoiler:

Yeah, nice to see an epic race again after Alonso's and Vettel's cruise-fests.

Vettel was certainly helped by the two safety car periods, but his drive was amazing. Again, I can't see how he loses the WC unless his car physically breaks.

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