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Post by West Nile on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 4:26

alright here's a nother gun that i have a fealing you guys have already looked at since its just soooo cool but i just have to make sure http://www.barrettrifles.com/rifle_rec7.aspx

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Post by Nachtsider on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 4:33

Believe it or not, Nile, I haven't heard of this one. It is love.

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Post by West Nile on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 4:36

It's meant to replace the M16 among all guns! 6.8 mm that's practically one good shot one bad kill!

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Post by Nachtsider on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 4:40

It doesn't appear to be selective-fire, though - is that link for the civilian version?

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Post by West Nile on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 4:42

ya, military version is suppost to have most of it's parts availably replacable with M-16 parts execept for the barrel area, it's that fr*kn close to the m16!

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Post by Guest on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 7:03

The gun somehow reminds me about the M4 S-SYSTEM...

close, but not quite

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Post by Wileama on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 9:03

man there seem to be more flavors of M-16 now a days then there are Ice Cream...

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Post by LoC978 on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 9:15

still, I'd take the 6.5 Grendel over it. the SPC seems to fall short a bit past 200m. Both are a bit too small for the one-shot one-kill philosophy, though.
7.62x51mm still rocks my socks.

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Post by Guest on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 9:21

Wileama wrote:man there seem to be more flavors of M-16 now a days then there are Ice Cream...
With the US military being such a large potential customer, one should expect such a thing to occur. Since technology has not progressed to the point where significant gains can be made with a radically different design many suitors of the US military will instead try to offer a slightly better product that requires the minimum of change - competing on price primarily since they're all going to be offering similarly effective improvements on the current in-service design.

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Post by Guest on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 9:37

man there seem to be more flavors of M-16 now a days then there are Ice Cream...

I prefer tasting the flavors off a Thompson SMG or a bolt-action Mosin-Nagant any day Very Happy

Modern Rifles are cool, but I think a taste of 'the mother of all assault rifles' would be nice (StG 44) Very Happy

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Post by Wileama on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 10:14

Fomoria:
It also helps that you really only have to mess with half the gun to make a different gun. So even in the civilian market it makes a lot of sense. Your not looking for a ground up change, just tweaking the upper receiver. I'll be honest I don't know a lot about guns practically, but the M-16/AR-15 family seems relatively unique in that regard.

Anyway the M-16 isn't the only gun in the world. The number of variants though is just mind boggling to me. It make sense to be sure, but realizing it just acts on my brain in a different way.

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Post by Guest on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 10:47

Anyway the M-16 isn't the only gun in the world. The number of variants though is just mind boggling to me.

It has been going around since...1950 is it?

There's the AR-15, then the M16A1 (Early), M16A1 Vietnam Version, M16A1 (late Vietnam), M16A1 (late-er), M16A2, M16A3, M16A4, Knights SR-16, then there's a few others...

I don't know the rest x_x;

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Post by Nachtsider on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 12:53

Don't forget the Colt M4, which is essentially a baby M16.

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Post by Wileama on Wed 9 Apr 2008 - 17:42

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15#Variants

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AR-15_variants

Not all of these variants are terribly different. However if you just go by the number of different calibers there are you get a lot of different weapons. Add to that guns like the SCAR that seem to have grown out of the AR-15 family. It's a lot of different weapons.

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Post by LoC978 on Mon 14 Apr 2008 - 0:45

well, I finally found the time to go out and fire my PSL... and I must say, she's a sweet rifle. The recoil is barely a tap compared to what I expected... not even a quarter as hard as my Type-99.
That being said... I have no 100yd shotgroups to show you, because my scope is so far out of whack (still shooting about 10 degrees to the right at mechanical left) that I couldn't hit anywhere near the target using it. Guess it needs a boresight. I put a bunch through the target with iron sights, but the groupings were downright laughable.
Still, I had a lot of fun, and I took a few videos. Just gotta figure out a place to host 'em. Haven't counted up the number of rounds I used yet, though I'm down to less than 40 (only had about 100 to start) for my Type-99, and I probably put a little over a hundred each through my CZ and PSL.
Full report to follow, hopefully sometime this week. Now, if you'll all excuse me, I've got to get up in just over 4 hours...

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Post by Nuke is Good on Tue 18 Nov 2008 - 10:15

My dad kept a Sig P229 in the glove compartment from his UN days. Its wierd when I was a kid I never knew he had a gun. My mom is such a hardass she almost took away my airsoft guns. Jeez, I'll never get to fire another gun again. Last time I fired a gun was 6 years ago in Civil Air Patrol Basic Encampment.
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Post by Guest on Sun 15 Mar 2009 - 1:22

Just purchased this today


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Post by emperor on Sun 15 Mar 2009 - 2:10

It's really nice FN!

How much is it?

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Post by Guest on Sun 15 Mar 2009 - 13:09

It cost me just under $1800.

I bought 300 rounds for $120. Going to the shooting range Tuesday.

Not bad for a first gun purchase.

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Post by LoC978 on Sun 15 Mar 2009 - 15:07

*wishes he had that kind of money to burn nowadays*

I need an SRB/SO before the zombies rise!
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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 15 Mar 2009 - 15:11

The SBR is too recent for my OC timeline, but it looks sweet!

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Post by Sintendo on Sun 15 Mar 2009 - 15:17

I held a P90 in my arms one time... felt like a dream, fit like a glove *sigh*...

I wish I had that kind of money right now...
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Post by Danjo3 on Mon 16 Mar 2009 - 5:58

Sintendo wrote:I held a P90 in my arms one time... felt like a dream, fit like a glove *sigh*...
So did I. Unfortunately it was only an Airsoft. But youíre right, it has a very unique feel to it, almost like itís part of you.

Iíve only owned one gun in my days, a Ruger 10/22. I ended up selling it because I just never used it that much.

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Post by West Nile on Thu 19 Mar 2009 - 13:05

Since everybody seems to be wielding a Desert Eagle these days im thinking of swapping my OC's gun with a .50 auto revolver, what do you guys think?

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 19 Mar 2009 - 13:37

West Nile wrote:Since everybody seems to be wielding a Desert Eagle these days im thinking of swapping my OC's gun with a .50 auto revolver, what do you guys think?

I'd go with something easily-concealed:



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Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Thu 19 Mar 2009 - 16:47

is that compensator supposed to do something lol

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Post by LoC978 on Thu 19 Mar 2009 - 16:57

yeah, blind the firer with white-hot jets of FLAME!
...'cause no gun is really awesome until it blinds ya (and possibly removes your eyebrows) just for firing it.

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Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Thu 19 Mar 2009 - 17:49

lols flame kit

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Post by West Nile on Fri 20 Mar 2009 - 3:55

Kiskaloo wrote:
West Nile wrote:Since everybody seems to be wielding a Desert Eagle these days im thinking of swapping my OC's gun with a .50 auto revolver, what do you guys think?

I'd go with something easily-concealed:



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not really, in my OC line of duty concealment isn't necessary, efficeincy is

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Post by rusty-spring on Fri 20 Mar 2009 - 13:10

Just a quick thought. With the new Sprinfield XDM that can hold 19 9mm rounds in the magazine (and 16 in .40SW) I can't see why you would pick any other 9mm - aside from common sense answers like "I just don't want one." or "This other gun suits me better." That's too easy. Razz

Sure, the 9mm can be considered anemic, but 19 rounds...If nothing else, I'm getting one for the zombie apocalypse.

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Post by LoC978 on Fri 20 Mar 2009 - 13:27

gah... if I could get rid of that damned grip safety...
anyway, I'll go with my Glock 30 / Glock 21 / SBR SO combo for the apocalypse. maybe I'll get a Glock 17 to throw in my bag in case I find a big ol' cache of 9mm. 17+1 ain't too shabby either, and the thing's more comfortable in my hand.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 20 Mar 2009 - 13:30

rusty-spring wrote:Just a quick thought. With the new Sprinfield XDM that can hold 19 9mm rounds in the magazine...I can't see why you would pick any other 9mm...

Any Gunslinger Girl who needs 19 rounds in a pistol is unworthy of the title. Holier-than-thou

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Post by Piero on Fri 20 Mar 2009 - 13:37

A couple of my OCs are getting pretty damn close to that figure with the latest round of pistol shuffling among my OCs (not yet reflected in their profiles). In fact, Felisa's PX4 can actually exceed that by one round if it's using extended magazines.

Also, while I believe the XD (M) added a manual safety as well, on the standard XD isn't the grip safety critically important, given that the gun is, IIRC a single action? Wouldn't carrying one of those with the grip safety disabled be kind of a bad idea?

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Post by rusty-spring on Fri 20 Mar 2009 - 13:49

LoC978 wrote:I'll get a Glock 17 to throw in my bag in case I find a big ol' cache of 9mm. 17+1 ain't too shabby either, and the thing's more comfortable in my hand.

You just had to bring Glocks into this didn't you? The more field tested and approved older brother. Razz All joking aside, you're right. Not much difference between 19+1 and 17+1. At that capacity, if 2 rounds are make or break then perhaps that person should start investing in a 30 round SMG.

Kiskaloo wrote:Any Gunslinger Girl who needs 19 rounds in a pistol is unworthy of the title.

Ah, but there you misunderstood me my good man. Who said needing the 19 rounds? That just means more headshots for less reloads. Razz

Piero wrote:Also, while I believe the XD (M) added a manual safety as well, on the standard XD isn't the grip safety critically important, given that the gun is, IIRC a single action?

The XD(M) is striker fired like the Glock, so I dunno how the classification goes for striker fired guns in relation to single action/double action/etc. I would guess the XD(M) is considered in the same category as the Glock.

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Post by maverick375 on Fri 20 Mar 2009 - 15:06

With the new Sprinfield XDM that can hold 19 9mm rounds in the magazine (and 16 in .40SW) I can't see why you would pick any other 9mm - aside from common sense answers like "I just don't want one." or "This other gun suits me better." That's too easy. Razz

I know of one shop that has sent back three XDM's due to physical failures of one kind or another. One had the frame's slide retainer fail and the slide just came right off. Not to mention the fact that you can't rack the slide without the grip-safety engaged.

Nope, I'll stick with my flawless-running M&P40, but to each their own, ya know?
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Post by maverick375 on Fri 20 Mar 2009 - 15:17

The XD(M) is striker fired like the Glock, so I dunno how the classification goes for striker fired guns in relation to single action/double action/etc. I would guess the XD(M) is considered in the same category as the Glock

DA/SA depends on what you feel the qualification is, and there is always someone arguing it. USPSA/IDPA consider any gun to be double-action if pulling the trigger cocks the firing pin or hammer at all. The M&P is considered a double-action striker because the striker moves back a minute amount before release, due to the sear and striker shapes. Glocks are DA. The XD(M) is single since the striker is fully cocked in battery.
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Post by West Nile on Sat 21 Mar 2009 - 11:35

just random, i can disassemble a .45 glock in 7 seconds ^_^

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 21 Mar 2009 - 11:54

I can do it in .007 seconds...

...of course, it can't be reassembled afterwards. Razz

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sat 21 Mar 2009 - 15:41

Kiskaloo wrote:
rusty-spring wrote:Just a quick thought. With the new Sprinfield XDM that can hold 19 9mm rounds in the magazine...I can't see why you would pick any other 9mm...

Any Gunslinger Girl who needs 19 rounds in a pistol is unworthy of the title. Holier-than-thou
Piero wrote:A couple of my OCs are getting pretty damn close to that figure with the latest round of pistol shuffling among my OCs (not yet reflected in their profiles). In fact, Felisa's PX4 can actually exceed that by one round if it's using extended magazines.

Also, while I believe the XD (M) added a manual safety as well, on the standard XD isn't the grip safety critically important, given that the gun is, IIRC a single action? Wouldn't carrying one of those with the grip safety disabled be kind of a bad idea?

At 16+ rounds in his AA M1981/84, Fernando get close to that mark! Now that he has two of them!!! Guh?

If Rachel carries both hers and Fernando's NAA .32/.38's with the unlocking gun safety watches each and using the 10 round extended magazines, she at 20+ rounds right there! But that is using 2 guns at the same time.

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Post by LoC978 on Sat 21 Mar 2009 - 16:12

Kiskaloo wrote:
West Nile wrote:just random, i can disassemble a .45 glock in 7 seconds ^_^
I can do it in .007 seconds...

...of course, it can't be reassembled afterwards. Razz
lolz...
not bad, though a Glock is an incredibly quick disassembly in the first place. 5-10 seconds for a field strip is pretty standard to someone who knows the weapon.
If you wanna do more than just field strip, though:

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Post by rusty-spring on Sat 21 Mar 2009 - 16:33

Every once in a while, don't you miss the days of black powder and a time where if you were lucky you could hit a target beyond 50 yards? I know I sure do. Bring back the smoothbore rifle I say!

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other may seem outdated now, but as you know retro always comes back in
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Post by Nachtsider on Sat 21 Mar 2009 - 20:18

I've fired me a Ruger Blackhawk, so I'm no stranger to black powder. The only antique BP weapon I've ever personally seen being fired was the Walker Colt - absolute MONSTER of a handgun. After witnessing the roar and kick of that thing, I chickened out when offered to fire it.

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Re: gun nut thread

Post by Awinnell on Sun 22 Mar 2009 - 8:11

reminds me of a film quote,

Rooster Cogburn: Why, by God, girl, that's a Colt's Dragoon! You're no bigger than a corn nubbin, what're you doing with all this pistol?
Mattie Ross: It belonged to my father, he carried it bravely in the war, and I intend to kill Tom Chaney with it if the law fails to do so.
Rooster Cogburn: Well, this'll sure get the job done if you can find a fence post to rest it on while you take aim !

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Re: gun nut thread

Post by rusty-spring on Sun 22 Mar 2009 - 12:23

Nachtsider wrote:Walker Colt - absolute MONSTER of a handgun.

I drudged up a comparison size photo of one those handguns, and you're right. It's a frigging monster. If you make a Desert Eagle look small, then I think that falls into "monster" category.

The Walker is at the bottom, and why do I have the urge for Texas Ranger jokes? (BTW, what is the huge mutant Single Action Army looking thing in the middle?)


Another photo for good measure, against a 1911.

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Re: gun nut thread

Post by LoC978 on Sun 12 Apr 2009 - 22:32

so anyway, I know I promised videos and such of my various shooting trips long ago... but...
thing is, I don't have the technology/patience/inclination to set up multiple cameras, show target impacts and such... so any videos of serious shooting are rather pointless and boring:

...that was my final (and sadly, best) attempt at one, so we stopped trying.


that being said, here's me wasting ammo:

-with my cameraman trying to replicate video game-esque "camera shake"



-with my Glock 21 in one hand, and my brother's XD45 in the other... both with about half-empty mags.



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Re: gun nut thread

Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Sun 12 Apr 2009 - 22:45

Your camera man......Parkinsons?

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Re: gun nut thread

Post by Tommygunner70 on Mon 13 Apr 2009 - 5:46

tsundere9kagami2 wrote:Your camera man......Parkinsons?

I was gonna say the same thing.
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Re: gun nut thread

Post by LoC978 on Tue 14 Apr 2009 - 23:40

nah. in the first vid, that was me, juggling a rifle while trying to position myself to view over the firer's shoulder... and the camera was set to 10X optical zoom.
in the second one, it was entirely intentional... because the guy holding the camera in that one is a jackass.

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Re: gun nut thread

Post by West Nile on Sun 10 May 2009 - 5:07

anyone heard of the LWRC SABR (Sniper Assault Rifle) yet?http://www.onpointsupply.com/cart.php?page=lwrc_sabr

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Re: gun nut thread

Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Sun 10 May 2009 - 6:07

its kinda.....really fugly...a mix a mash of guns.....

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Re: gun nut thread

Post by maverick375 on Sun 10 May 2009 - 8:44

It's not really any different from having an extra upper for a basic AR lying around.

For a true utility rifle, the COBB MCR is the way to go.
http://www.securityarms.com/20010315/galleryfiles/2900/2993.htm
There are 4 series which represent different chamber size groups. To change calibers within the same group, you only change the bolt and barrel. The 100 series can change from a 9mm to a 50 Beowulf like that.
To change between series (such as 100 to 400), you change the entire upper and magazine well. So you go from 9mm to 458 Win Mag.
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Re: gun nut thread

Post by Nachtsider on Sun 10 May 2009 - 9:11

.50 Beo is Awesome!

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Re: gun nut thread

Post by Guest on Mon 11 May 2009 - 10:52

I wish I could get myself a live gun.

...although BB gun replicas are nice to scare some friends who came to visit

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Post by West Nile on Mon 11 May 2009 - 12:40

Panzer IV wrote:I wish I could get myself a live gun.

...although BB gun replicas are nice to scare some friends who came to visit

wait so what is the legal age for getting a gun there?

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Re: gun nut thread

Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 11 May 2009 - 13:06

West Nile wrote:
Panzer IV wrote:I wish I could get myself a live gun.

...although BB gun replicas are nice to scare some friends who came to visit

wait so what is the legal age for getting a gun there?

In theory, personal possession of weapons is illegal in Japan. There is, however, a rather long and involved licensing process for hunters to obtain a license to own and use a rifle or shotgun.

In practice, Japanese gun control enforcement is relatively weak. However, the population as a whole is relatively "gun averse" so even though you could get a personal weapon if you really wanted one and made the effort, most citizens have no desire (or choose not to try and obtain one).

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 11 May 2009 - 13:26

Wonder why.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 11 May 2009 - 14:09

Nachtsider wrote:Wonder why.

A low crime rate probably helps. And a low gun ownership ratio probably helps keep that rate low.

I also expect much of the country was effectively de-armed during the Allied Occupation and the population never felt the need to re-arm once they returned to self-government.

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Mon 11 May 2009 - 20:20

Kiskaloo wrote:
Nachtsider wrote:Wonder why.

A low crime rate probably helps. And a low gun ownership ratio probably helps keep that rate low.

Low Crime rate?

From what I've heard and seen, the 'out in the open' crime rate is low. The cop presence on the street is minor in Hakone. Though I have to admit that most crimes are committed in a back alley.

Kiskaloo wrote:I also expect much of the country was effectively de-armed during the Allied Occupation and the population never felt the need to re-arm once they returned to self-government.
Some veterans still cherished their old service fire arm. Like Sora's great grandfather cherished his in secrecy. Though there is no more 8mm ammunition to go around, the old Nambu Type 14 service pistol still remains in her family as a keep sake.

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Re: gun nut thread

Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 11 May 2009 - 21:21

Most societies that have open carry what you like gun/weapons laws have low crime rates while those with strict gun control laws have high crime rates.

In Vermount, New Hampshire and Maine, where you can carry concealed anything you want, crime there is virtually non existant. Nobody wants to mug Granny if everyone knew that Granny was packing a .357, or any possible witnesses who do carry might come shooting in her aide.

In New York City- Crime is rampant. Dont believe the numbers that are being publlished saying that crime has been the lowest since 1965... it has not. I'll give the boys in blue (the police) their respect, but they do not act fast enough to deter crime, and when I volunteered in the Aux. Police Force, I often found myself in 10-13 situations (Officer In Need Of Emergency Assistance) where no officer came to my aide until "Things were safe to do so." The police here are scared. Period. I see it in their faces everyday and wish them the best of luck.

Despite the laws in other countries that ban guns from its citizenry, people are still getting killed by gun fire. "If guns are outlawed, only outlaws will own them." In some cases, people in these countries are killed in higher rates that people in car/road accidents of that same country. If the police can not carry guns, then this adds to the outlaw's power.

I may look at the dark side of things, but I see it because it exists and I respect it for what it is. I wont let it coward me in fear, and I try to live a clean life as to the best of my ability. But some things ate damn difficult to do at times.

BTW- I dont advocate Gun Control. I do advocate Gun Education. With gun education, one can properly decide if guns are right for them, and if they ever become in contact with one, at least they know what to do. Just like one can with driver's education and cars. Due to the gun education from my mom, I have since age 6.

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