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Post by Il Direttore on Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 10:23

She was lifting it before she was shot. If nothing else, she can lift that much weight. If she had a tripod or something brace it against, I have no doubt that she could stabilize something of that much mass and fire it accurately.

On the other hand, Kisk pointed out in the chat that despite the capacity to frankenstein/design a gun that could fire 30mm rounds and be used by a cyborg, the sheer overkill makes it not very useful.

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Post by Kurosaka "Ery" Erika on Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 10:43

even the bushmaster chaingun make the LAV-25 and M2 bradley goes vibrate wildly from the chaingun recoil....

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Post by Il Direttore on Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 10:49

Full auto there, mate. I'm talking a single shot or magazine fed, bolt-action rifle with a tripod to brace against.

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Post by Kurosaka "Ery" Erika on Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 10:53

even one shot....

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Post by Alfisti on Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 11:40

El Conservatore wrote:Full auto there, mate. I'm talking a single shot or magazine fed, bolt-action rifle with a tripod to brace against.
Single shot, 30mm... as in: ?



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Post by Kurosaka "Ery" Erika on Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 11:44

she's a vampire..no exception...

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Post by maverick375 on Fri 10 Aug 2012 - 16:43

I know it was ages ago (three days?) but I feel compelled to add some points about the Nagant Revolver.
-The cylinder of the revolver moves forward as the trigger is stroked, but it is actually the cartridge itself that seals against the barrel. This is how a suppressor can function on it, and it was in fact done back during WWII and Vietnam.
-The Nagant cartridge is unique, to say the least, being designed specifically to aid in manufacturing the gun itself by using the same boring tools as the Mosin Nagant rifles. Hence why it is chambered in 7.62. The base of the cartridge looks very similar to the 7.62x54R as well.
-The performance of the revolver is a mixed bag. The triggers are notoriously stiff (upwards of 16 lbs) due to the spring-action required for the cylinder. Reloading is slow due to the use of a single-action loading gate and extraction system. Current production ammo is equated to about the 32ACP in power, though the original ammunition designed for it had considerably more power and rivals the 32H&R Magnum in performance.

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Post by John_234 on Tue 21 Aug 2012 - 15:21

We've discussed the 30mm weapon. In short, a bespoke, way overkill weapon like that doesn't really fit the nature of GSG... unless you're really universe-bending.

If you want to go that big, just use a recoiless rifle. Seriously.

About .32 ACP, there's quite a few conversion cylinders available for Nagants, though they wouldn't be able to run a suppressor in .32 ACP for the reasons Maverick said.


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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 23 Aug 2012 - 15:41

I'm in total agreement with Mav and John_234.

And what's wrong with the .32ACP? The gun is only as good as the idiot behind the trigger. Yes, there is a thing about power behind the bullet, but if you got a 30mm rifle and you cant hit the broad side of a squared barn, then why use it at all? You're just wasting bullets!

As for silencing, there is common sense here. A semi auto magazine fed pistol will provide the best silencing options out there. As for the Nagant, parts wear down. With the strength of a cyborg finger pulling on a 16lb trigger load, it will wear out very quickly, if not break in the first few shots fired. With a simple pistol, point and shoot with a 5lb or lighter trigger load.

If you want to to go with the .32ACP, I recommend the NAA .32ACP Guardian.
http://northamericanarms.com/firearms/32guard/32guard.html

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Post by John_234 on Thu 23 Aug 2012 - 18:48

Yeah. If we were going completely silent, a .22 LR pistol would probably make the most sense, but a suppressor on whatever gun was being used on the time would work, too.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Fri 24 Aug 2012 - 15:42

I know that the US Army Delta Forces uses a suppressed .22 machine gun. Its so quiet, if you were close enough to hear it, you would only hear the metal hammer hitting on the round's firing chamber.

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Post by M240B on Sat 25 Aug 2012 - 15:19



M395 DMR. This weapon technically doesnt exist. It is from the Halo universe. But I have a reason for its existance here. Long story short, I met a guy that completely reconverted a KelTec RFB into a real steel completely functional replica of the weapon. Its not just a shell, its the real deal.

Due to the fact that the tech has to be existing for it to be here in GSG, I figured, hell, I saw it, I USED IT, so why not?

This is one of Tara's newest weapons, and will fill the gap between her SCAR, and M107 SRS (Which will be added into profile shortly).

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Post by Il Direttore on Sat 25 Aug 2012 - 15:35

That.

Is.

AMAZING.

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Post by Alfisti on Sat 25 Aug 2012 - 19:30

@ElfenMagix wrote:I know that the US Army Delta Forces uses a suppressed .22 machine gun. Its so quiet, if you were close enough to hear it, you would only hear the metal hammer hitting on the round's firing chamber.
And hey, if you put enough lead in something eventually it will die... even if it is only in very small doses each time. Razz

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Post by John_234 on Thu 10 Jan 2013 - 3:38

@Alfisti wrote:
@ElfenMagix wrote:I know that the US Army Delta Forces uses a suppressed .22 machine gun. Its so quiet, if you were close enough to hear it, you would only hear the metal hammer hitting on the round's firing chamber.
And hey, if you put enough lead in something eventually it will die... even if it is only in very small doses each time. Razz
Late reply, but I recall the Israelis tried to use suppressed .22 rifles for riot control, thinking such a small bullet would have a hard time killing people.

Yeah, that didn't work out so well.

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