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Post by Professor Voodoo on Thu 10 Apr 2014 - 23:02

@Awinnell wrote:the reason why Mercedes is the current front runner
Marisa: Gay-Lussac's Law states that the pressure exerted on the sides of a container by a gas of fixed volume is proportional to its temperature.

Triela: What's she talking about?

Elio: When you pressurize a gas it gets hotter...a particularly important thing to know when filling SCUBA tanks.  

Kara: Soooo...how does that relate to Mercedes' F1 engine?

Elio: Proximity to the hot turbine is not the only reason you need to run turbocharged air through an intercooler.  The act of compressing the air creates a good deal of that heat.

Marisa: Yeah...isn't that what I said?

Elio: I'm just surprised moving the two halves of the turbo apart made such a big difference...and that the added rotational mass of that long PTO shaft doesn't offset the power gain.  It was a gamble, but it paid off.
@Kiskaloo wrote:I think that the drive Lewis put in on the final stint after the Safety Car at Bahrain is proof enough he has the measure of Nico in a straight-up fight. 

And Nico's points haul benefits greatly from Lewis DNFing in Melbourne.
This will be interesting as the season goes on.  By all accounts Rosberg is the better tester, working many more hours with the team to improve the car.  I think you can credit his time spent with Michael Schumacher for that.  He learned under Schumi's tutelage to be a very 'hands-on' driver.

Hamilton by contrast idolizes Ayrton Senna, and drives the same way.  He takes the car by the scruff of the neck and drives the piss out of it, whether it's behaving for him or not.  So as the season goes on a lot will depend on development:
If the mid-season upgrades are good; advantage Rosberg, who played a bigger part in developing them, and understands them better.
If the mid-season upgrades are bad; advantage Hamilton, because it doesn't matter as much to him.

Historically that favors Lewis.  Brawn/Mercedes is a team that typically starts a season strong and fades as its rivals improve.  That's what happened in 2009 when they won the title with Button...and in 2012 when Mercedes had "double DRS".

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Post by boomer_gonz on Fri 11 Apr 2014 - 13:15

Tomorrow the Red Bull Air Race World Championships begins in Croatia for the second stop of the season.

Smoke On Air Hogs!!

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Post by boomer_gonz on Sun 13 Apr 2014 - 11:01

The event opened up with the Challenger Cup

Qualifying Results for Rovinj:

1. Hannes Arch – 00:57.72
2. Paul Bonhomme – 00:57.87
3. Pete McLeod – 00:58.15
4. Matthias Dolderer - 00:58.51
5. Nigel Lamb – 00:58.64
6. Yoshihide Muroya – 00:58.68
7. Kirby Chambliss – 00:59.82
8. Peter Besenyei – 01:00.21
9. Matt Hall – 01:00.56
10. Nicolas Ivanoff – 01:00.63
11. Michael Goulian – 01:01.40
12. Martin Sonka – DNF

Paul Bonhomme placed in the top three again which is becoming old hat for the veteran pilot, with Nigel Lamb placing in a surprising fifth. Pete McLeod is still an ace to be reckoned with as he placed third in qualifying just behind Bonhomme, but the real surprise is Hannes Arch who keeps it coming from his surprise performance in Abu Dhabi and takes the pole.

Americans Kirby Chambliss and Michael Goulian took seventh and eleventh respectively, but it seems that they are clearly outmatched in this years event.

In the Challanger Cup competition; Francois Le Vot notches another win in what may become a dynasty run for the Frenchman with Great Britain's Tom Bennett, and Slovenian newcomer Peter Podlunsek coming in third.

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Post by boomer_gonz on Sun 13 Apr 2014 - 13:25

Posting the final results with a full report to come after I catch a full rip of the event. Apparently trying to watch a Motorsports event at 2 am. after working a 14 hr. shift isn't in the cards for me. Razz

Official results from the 2014 Red Bull Air Race World Championship Round 2 in Rovinj, Croatia.
1. ARCH Hannes (AUT)
2. BONHOMME Paul (GBR)
3. MUROYA Yoshihide (JPN)
4. MCLEOD Pete (CAN)
5. IVANOFF Nicolas (FRA)
6. SONKA Martin (CZE)
7. HALL Matt (AUS)
8. LAMB Nigel (GBR)
9. BESENYEI Peter (HUN)
10. CHAMBLISS Kirby (USA)
11. DOLDERER Matthias (GER)
12. GOULIAN Mike (USA)

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 14 Apr 2014 - 10:08

Stefano Domenicali has resigned as Team Principal for Scuderia Ferrari after seven years in the position. He will be replaced by the President of Ferrari America, Marco Mattiachi.

Speculation is he has been sacked since the team hasn't won a championship under his tenure and the car this year looks to be a lemon.

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Post by Alfisti on Sun 20 Apr 2014 - 6:22

China 2014...
Spoiler:
Did I just see the Mercedes team principal wearing his constructors' trophy as a hat?

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 20 Apr 2014 - 9:20

Spoiler:

Kara's walking the campus with a spring in her step this afternoon.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 20 Apr 2014 - 10:59

Chinese GP...
Spoiler:
Triela: (handing €10 over to Jamiebel) I think I should have saved some of that money I've won over the past 4 years.  This sucks...I'm going broke!

Allison: (grumbling) You get used to it with time.

Marisa: I don't belive this merda!  Both Williams have contact in the first corner...Massa has the pit stop from hell...and they STILL beat my Toro Rosso boys?  I'm never gonna get to pick the Monday lunch spot again!

Kara: Look on the bright side; Kvyat scored a point again...AND FERNANDO GOT ON THE PODIUM!  LOOKOUT YOU SILVER BITCHES, WE'RE COMIN' FOR YOU!

Elio: Do you need the tranquilizer dart gun?

Michele: I might...keep it handy, okay?
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Well, the result is no surprise at the top...but I'll the the first to point out that I was completely wrong about Ferrari.  I figured they were gonna get squashed at this track...Alonso wasn't kidding when he said they expected to turn things around at this race.

Hulkenberg had a quiet but solid race...not enough to keep him at third in points, but he's still holding some heavy hitters behind him.  Force India is still 3rd in Constructor points.

And who was that conducting the podium interviews?  I didn't recognize him.

WEC Silverstone
Spoiler:
No race results yet, and no US broadcast...but things are looking very interesting.  Porsche topped Free Practice 1...Audi took FP2...then Toyota took the pole position.  Could sports car racing be getting back on its feet after so many lean years?  Wish we actually see some of it.  Even if the cars are butt-ugly.

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Post by topgearbrzgt86 on Sun 20 Apr 2014 - 12:00

@Professor Voodoo wrote:Chinese GP...
Triela: (handing €10 over to Jamiebel) I think I should have saved some of that money I've won over the past 4 years.  This sucks...I'm going broke!

Allison: (grumbling) You get used to it with time.

Marisa: I don't belive this merda!  Both Williams have contact in the first corner...Massa has the pit stop from hell...and they STILL beat my Toro Rosso boys?  I'm never gonna get to pick the Monday lunch spot again!

Kara: Look on the bright side; Kvyat scored a point again...AND FERNANDO GOT ON THE PODIUM!  LOOKOUT YOU SILVER BITCHES, WE'RE COMIN' FOR YOU!

Elio: Do you need the tranquilizer dart gun?

Michele: I might...keep it handy, okay?
Jamiebel: Easy, there, Kara. It's just one podium. Get a few wins, and a couple podiums, then I'll be worried. Razz

Frédéric: (to Elio and Michele) At the rate Ferrari's progressing, sooner might be better than later. Also double points for Force India - another day at the office.

Jim: (grumbles) If Romain hadn't had that gearbox trouble, he would have gotten the last point, but at least he, the team and the car are moving well and forward....bloody Mercedes engines...

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Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 30 Apr 2014 - 10:47

Tomorrow marks the 20th anniversary of "Black Sunday", the 14° Gran Premio di San Marino held at the Autodromo Enzo e Dino Ferrari in Imola, Italy, where Ayrton Senna da Silva was killed. And 20 years ago today, Roland Ratzenberger was killed during qualifying for the event. The weekend was the darkest for Formula One since the 1960 Belgian Grand Prix.

RIP gentlemen. Auto racing and personal driving are safer for your sacrifices that weekend.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 2 May 2014 - 21:57

Gene Haas announced that they will defer until 2016 to field his team in Formula One to give them more time to get ready in North Carolina and Italy.

Force India also announced the liquor brand Smirnoff as their new major sponsor. Smirnoff is part of the Diageo Group, who also owns a controlling 25% of United Spirits, which itself is owned by Force India owner Vijay Mallya. 

I bet Kimi is regretting signing for Ferrari even more. Incoming!

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 3 May 2014 - 19:43

Nigel Stepney, the former Ferrari engineer who leaked confidential information on the Scuderia to Mike Coughlan at McLaren in 2007 which resulted in McLaren being excluded from the 2007 Constructor's Championship and a $100 million fine was killed today after being struck by a lorry on the M20 near Ashford, Kent, UK.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 5 May 2014 - 19:14

@Professor Voodoo wrote:WEC Silverstone
Spoiler:
No race results yet, and no US broadcast...but things are looking very interesting.  Porsche topped Free Practice 1...Audi took FP2...then Toyota took the pole position.  Could sports car racing be getting back on its feet after so many lean years?  Wish we actually see some of it.  Even if the cars are butt-ugly.

Finally found all six hours of it online. What a great race.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Wed 7 May 2014 - 2:29

@Kiskaloo wrote:Nigel Stepney... was killed today after being struck by a lorry on the M20 near Ashford, Kent, UK.
I'd seen those other stories you mentioned, but I missed that one.  Now that I've read the report the circumstances seem very strange.

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Post by Awinnell on Wed 7 May 2014 - 8:33

@Professor Voodoo wrote:
@Kiskaloo wrote:Nigel Stepney... was killed today after being struck by a lorry on the M20 near Ashford, Kent, UK.
I'd seen those other stories you mentioned, but I missed that one.  Now that I've read the report the circumstances seem very strange.

perhaps something fell off the van and he went back to pick it up, though how he missed seeing an artic heading towards him is a mystery

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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 8 May 2014 - 19:55

It's May... Do you know where Indy is at?

I'm hoping for Helio to win this year, to make #4 of the 4X Indy winners...

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Fri 9 May 2014 - 3:36

@ElfenMagix wrote:It's May... Do you know where Indy is at?

I'm hoping for Helio to win this year, to make #4 of the 4X Indy winners...
This is going to be doubly interesting this year, with a race on the Indy Road Course (May 10th) to kick off proceedings.

Unfortunately I'm going to miss that one, but maybe I'll be ashore in time to see the 500.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 10 May 2014 - 8:57

Qualifying for the Spanish Grand Prix was a mix of surprises and not-so-surprises. Mercedes remains untouchable, with Red Bull still "best of the rest". Grosjean was a surprise for Lotus, while all Ferrari has to look forward to is that at least they don't suck as bad as McLaren.

Evidently Gene Haas is heading to Lotus for a visit, which is interesting since his new team has been linked to Ferrari for engines and transmissions. That deal was with Stefano Domenicali, however, so perhaps the new management team has different ideas or the plans for "customer teams" is not going to happen.

Buying Lotus would make things easier, to be sure. And Lotus is evidently still in dire financial crisis as both they and Caterham have not paid Renault Sport for their Power Units this year and Renault Sport may yank their engine deals if they don't bring their accounts up to date.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sat 10 May 2014 - 20:23

@ElfenMagix wrote:I'm hoping for Helio to win this year, to make #4 of the 4X Indy winners...

I didn't get to see it, but the report on Crash.net makes it sound like a good race to open the month at Indy... 
Spoiler:
1. #77 Simon Pagenaud Schmidt Peterson Motorsports Honda 2hrs 4mins 24.0261secs after 82 laps 
2. #28 Ryan Hunter-Reay Andretti Autosport Honda + 0.8906s 
3. #3 Helio Castroneves Team Penske Chevrolet + 1.8244s 
4. #11 Sebastien Bourdais KVSH Racing Chevrolet + 2.5406s 
5. #83 Charlie Kimball Novo Nordisk Chip Ganassi Racing Chevrolet + 5.3007s 
6. #8 Ryan Briscoe NTT Data Chip Ganassi Racing Chevrolet + 9.1914s 
7. #98 Jack Hawksworth Bryan Herta Autosport Honda + 14.6161s 
8. #12 Will Power Team Penske Chevrolet + 18.5958s 
9. #14 Takuma Sato AJ Foyt Racing Honda + 20.9721s 
10. #10 Tony Kanaan Target Chip Ganassi Racing Chevrolet + 21.4539s 
11. #19 Justin Wilson Dale Coyne Racing Honda + 26.475s 
12. #16 Oriol Servia Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing Honda + 29.6561s 
13. #18 Carlos Huertas Dale Coyne Racing Honda + 33.0827s 
14. #25 Marco Andretti Andretti Autosport Honda + 1:04.2370s 
15. #9 Scott Dixon Target Chip Ganassi Racing Chevrolet + 1:08.6263s 
16. #2 Juan Pablo Montoya Team Penske Chevrolet + 1 laps 
17. #67 Josef Newgarden Sarah Fisher Hartman Racing Honda + 2 laps 
18. #41 Martin Plowman AJ Foyt Racing Honda + 2 laps 

Retirements 
#20 Mike Conway Ed Carpenter Racing Chevrolet + 24 laps Mechanical 
#27 James Hinchcliffe Andretti Autosport Honda + 26 laps Contact 
#15 Graham Rahal Rahal Letterman Lanigan Racing Honda + 32 laps Contact 
#26 Franck Montagny Andretti Autosport Honda + 35 laps Contact 
#17 Sebastian Saavedra KV AFS Racing Chevrolet + 82 laps Contact 
#34 Carlos Munoz Andretti Autosport - HVM Racing Honda + 82 laps Contact 
#7 Mikhail Aleshin Schmidt Peterson Motorsports Honda + 80 laps Contact 

Fastest Lap 
#9 Scott Dixon Target Chip Ganassi Racing Chevrolet 124.711 mph 70.4062s on lap 76 

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 10 May 2014 - 20:34

I'll catch that one when I get home. Watching the 6 Hours of Spa WEC race.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sat 10 May 2014 - 21:37

@Kiskaloo wrote:I'll catch that one when I get home. Watching the 6 Hours of Spa WEC race.
I hope I didn't spoil the result for you.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 11 May 2014 - 11:46

@Professor Voodoo wrote:I didn't get to see it, but the report on Crash.net makes it sound like a good race to open the month at Indy…


I do have to say the marshaling was atrocious, especially at the start. If this was an FIA-sanctioned event, there would have been a blizzard of yellow flags and the contact probably would have been avoided.

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No surprise on who won or came in second or third, but Vettel put in another solid drive from the back. Kimi showed up Alonso most of the race - not sure why the pitted Alonso towards the end, but I guess he was losing too much time on worn Prime tires. Another great performance by Bottas and well-done Romain while Crashtor continues to show he only has an FIA super license because he can buy one. I imagine most of the money he brought to Lotus is not being used for development, but to repair his car.

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Post by topgearbrzgt86 on Mon 12 May 2014 - 11:42

Jamiebel: Well, another victory for Mercedes is good, but this is starting to get boring...hopefully domination will end at Monaco. Jim, how are you doing?

Jim: (currently doing the happy dance) Business as usual, Jay-bee.  dancin\\'  ROTFL

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Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 14 May 2014 - 12:45

In response to complaints about the lack of volume of the exhaust of the new Power Units, Mercedes tried something at the Barcelona test:


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Post by topgearbrzgt86 on Wed 14 May 2014 - 21:50

@Kiskaloo wrote:In response to complaints about the lack of volume of the exhaust of the new Power Units, Mercedes tried something at the Barcelona test:


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Post by Alfisti on Mon 19 May 2014 - 3:19

Sad day for Australian motorsport with the passing of Sir Jack Brabham, who remains the only man to have driven a car bearing his own name to a Formula 1 world championship win.


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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 19 May 2014 - 9:03

Saw that this morning while watching the highlights of the 6 Hours of Spa-Francorchamps WEC race.

And speaking of said race, have to say Toyota has to be favored to win Le Mans in a few weeks based on the speed they showed at Spa - they're going to be lightning down the Mulsanne Strait. Honestly, Audi was lucky to keep 2nd place thanks to favorable traffic preventing the Toyota from mounting a charge.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 19 May 2014 - 16:58

@Alfisti wrote:Sad day for Australian motorsport with the passing of Sir Jack Brabham, 
One of the great under-rated geniuses of the sport...his name doesn't get mentioned among the likes of Clark, Senna & Stewart nearly enough.

What I'm most impressed by was that the length of his competitive career.  In an era when many drivers didn't survive 15 seasons he raced with success for that long...even scoring a win in his final season at nearly 44 years old.  He really deserves more recognition, but for now I'm happy to raise a glass to a life well lived.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 20 May 2014 - 9:44

Venezuela's new Minister of Sport, Antonio Alvarez, has stated that PDVSA will be ceasing their sponsorship of Pastor Maldonado at the end of this season. Since that money is the only reason Crashtor has a ride, Formula One grids should be safer starting in 2015.  
 

Not good news for Lotus, of course, who will need to find another source of income. And considering the size of the check the Venezuelan brought, they might have to toss Romain Grosjean, as well, to secure another pay driver to make up the difference.
 
 
 
The City of Long Beach also decided to extend the current contract with IndyCar through 2018 rather than host a return of the US Formula One Grand Prix West. One imagines staying with IndyCar was a safer bet than having to invest significantly to improve the street circuit to "F1 Standards" and FOM is sure to be asking for significantly higher fees than IndyCar.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Fri 23 May 2014 - 9:17

This had been rumored, but now it's official;
Crash.net wrote:To be named Nissan GT-R LM NISMO in a nod to both its road car range and its performance line, Nissan will enter a pair of LMP1 machines from 2015 for a full season of World Endurance Championship racing, as well as contest the iconic Le Mans 24 Hours.

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Post by topgearbrzgt86 on Fri 23 May 2014 - 9:25

Very Happy Woo-hoo! Good to see Nissan return to Le Mans after the R390 GT1. Now all we need is for Peugeot and Ferrari to come back, and we're set!

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 23 May 2014 - 9:50

Glad to see the WEC adding manufacturers at the top end. A return to the glory days of Group C would be most welcome.

Ferrari have been testing an LMP1 prototype and Renault has also been said to be considering putting forward an LMP1 (which would preclude Peugeot returning, I imagine).

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 25 May 2014 - 11:00

Grand Prix de Monaco 2014

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Luck be a lady tonight, and she favored Nico Rosberg and, evidently, Jules Bianchi and the Marussia team, who look to have respectively scored their first Driver and World Championship points with a ninth place finish even though they were supposedly hit with a stop and go penalty that they did not serve. But the stewards had plenty of time to Black Flag him so hopefully Marussia successfully argued their case during the race and this won't be reversed.

A great weekend for Nico. I believe he honestly stuffed it in qualifying, which ruined Lewis' faster lap and the Safety Car just before scheduled pit stops ensured Lewis' only opportunity to pass was negated. Another brilliant race by Ricciardo - I really hope Red Bull have declared him #1 over Seb so he is given the best opportunity to succeed.

Ferrari continue to suck wind. Thanks solely to Alonso they're the third best team on the grid, but while Alonso can stay competitive to around half-distance, he then starts to fade something fierce in the second half and he's lucky Vettel is having such a terrible season, otherwise he'd not be in third place in the DC. Kimi had a great start and looked good until the Safety Car and double pit stops, at which point it went off the rails.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 25 May 2014 - 14:22

98th Indianapolis 500

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Finally we get one that ends under green as Ryan Hunter-Reay wins for Andretti Motorsports in a six-lap final dash over Helio Castroneves and Marco Andretti.

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Post by topgearbrzgt86 on Sun 25 May 2014 - 14:37

Spoiler:

I think what Helio said - "It's sweet but it sucks to be second" - would sum up what happened on the final lap. What a finish. Another first-time winner at Indy, and this time, under green. Congrats to Ryan Hunter-Reay, 2012 IndyCar champ, and now, 2014 Indy 500 champ.

The Borg-Warner Trophy is yours, Captain America. You earned it.

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Post by topgearbrzgt86 on Sun 25 May 2014 - 22:03

2014 Coca-Cola 600 and wrap-up




Spoiler:

Jimmie Johnson makes a last-minute dive against Matt Kenseth to win NASCAR's longest night of racing, and to put an exclamation point on this year's Memorial Day weekend.

Sadly, Kurt Busch couldn't quite make the Double, as his Chevy's engine gave way near the 500-mile mark. If it hadn't, I bet you any money he would have finished.

So, the role call for the winners of each of the Memorial Day races:

2014 Grand Prix de Monaco: Nico Rosberg (Mercedes AMG Petronas)
98th Indianapolis 500: Ryan Hunter-Reay (Andretti Autosport)
2014 Coca-Cola 600: Jimmie Johnson (Hendrick Motorsports)

Congrats to our winners! We'll see you around next Memorial Day Weekend!

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 1 Jun 2014 - 10:47

1



The film tells the story of the golden age of Formula 1, when the sport became terrifyingly dangerous and the drivers were like rock stars with charisma and raw talent, but with many of them paying the ultimate price. 1 follows the story of the drivers who raced on the edge and those who stood up to change the sport forever. It is about the greatest show on earth -- Formula 1™.

Just finished watching this documentary, which NBCSN showed in the lead-up to the Monaco Grand Prix. Absolutely fascinating and exceptionally well done with significant archival footage.
 
 
UPDATE - It is being repeated on Sunday, June 8th on NBCSN at 6:30PM Pacific (so I assume 9:30PM Eastern)

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 8 Jun 2014 - 14:54

Formula 1 Grand Prix du Canada 2014

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The best race of 2014 ends in dramatic fashion with a last lap crash taking out the 3rd and 4th place cars of Perez and Massa and Daniel Ricciardo’s inaugural grand prix win.

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Post by Alfisti on Sun 8 Jun 2014 - 18:55

Well, I missed my alarm this morning, but Ten has the race up on the web so just caught up now.

Spoiler:
That certainly was not a bad way to start the Queen's Birthday public holiday, though I'm not certain if I'll be joining Alan Jones for a 6am beer.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Mon 9 Jun 2014 - 23:05

@Kiskaloo wrote:Formula 1 Grand Prix du Canada 2014
Well...that was predictable up to the moment Mercedes started to show weakness, and those last 10 laps were wild.

Marisa: So with Massa crashing out...(fingers crossed) where did Vergne finish?  He's in the points!

Kara: But Bottas still beat him.

Marisa: Awww COME ON!  I just can't catch a break this season.

Triela: Well, it wasn't the driver we all expected but Red Bull is finally back on top.  Whew...it's been a while.

Jambiel: It's only been 6 races! 

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While this Red Bull victory will certainly boost the morale of the grid I doubt it signals a major threat to Mercedes' dominance.  The failures were all related to the regenerative braking system, and Montreal is the hardest circuit on brakes.  Unless there's a major shake-up the status quo should be restored in Austria.

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Post by topgearbrzgt86 on Mon 9 Jun 2014 - 23:19

@Professor Voodoo wrote:
@Kiskaloo wrote:Formula 1 Grand Prix du Canada 2014
Well...that was predictable up to the moment Mercedes started to show weakness, and those last 10 laps were wild.

Marisa: So with Massa crashing out...(fingers crossed) where did Vergne finish?  He's in the points!

Kara: But Bottas still beat him.

Marisa: Awww COME ON!  I just can't catch a break this season.

Triela: Well, it wasn't the driver we all expected but Red Bull is finally back on top.  Whew...it's been a while.

Jamiebel: It's only been 6 races! 

Allison: (disgruntled) Some of us have been waiting a lot longer.

Jim: (to Triela) Well, you guys did win, but you're still nowhere near close to Mercedes. I have to feel happy for Daniel, though! Yea, Mr. Smiley!

(to Allison) You and me both, Allie. You and me both.

(to Triela again, and to Jamiebel) For the next round only, I'll switch to Mercedes. Something tells me those Red Bull buggers messed with a piece of history* at the Red Bull Ring...

* http://thisisf1.com/2014/05/16/niki-lauda-angry-as-his-name-removed-from-red-bull-ring-curve-at-austrian-gp/ for more info on what Jim was talking about.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 14 Jun 2014 - 9:48

Looks like that 20% chance of rain at Le Mans is now 120%...

As Ren Höek would say... "Oh, boy! Mayhem!"

Spoiler:

The #8 Toyota, the #3 Audi and a Ferrari 458 all collided on the Mulsanne Straight. Both the Audi and the Toyota are heavily damaged.


UPDATE - Now another massive deluge washing the track and sending cars into the armco...

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Post by PSVT on Sat 14 Jun 2014 - 17:07

After a very active first few hours helped by the massive downpours, the race seems to be much calmer now.

Spoiler:
Not much of a surprise in seeing Toyota leading overall given their prodigious pace demonstrated in Silverstone and Spa.

Seeing the #8 Toyota get heavily damaged go 11 laps down and the #3 Audi get knocked out of the race outright (both by a Ferrari, go figure) is more surprising. Also, seeing the #20 Porsche momentarily take overall race lead was awesome given their status as newcomers.

The biggest surprise is the fact that both remaining Audis (#1 and #2) are still within two laps (and occasionally within one lap) of the #7 Toyota, given how much slower they appeared in the previous races.
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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sat 14 Jun 2014 - 20:07

Halfway point;
Spoiler:


Kristensen in the 3rd place Audi just slowed in the Porsche curves and pulled into the pits...the #1 car has been wheeled into the garage.  Bruno Senna (Aston Martin) still has a strong lead in the GT's.

24 hour coverage is streaming on http://www.24h-lemans.com/live/en/.  The commentary isn't very good, but it's better than nothing.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 14 Jun 2014 - 20:21

Thanks for the link, PV. Fox Sports 2 is carrying coverage now and we don't get that channel.

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Post by PSVT on Sat 14 Jun 2014 - 20:24

If you want, you can also listen to Radio Le Mans, which is associated with a stream carried by Audi. That's what I'm listening to, and I find they're generally better than the 24h-Lemans coverage.

Direct Link: http://player.gl-systemhaus.de/AUDI/2014/LeMans/
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Post by PSVT on Sat 14 Jun 2014 - 22:17

With less than 10 hours to go:

Spoiler:
The #7 Toyota has run into a problem and is stuck motionless on the Mulsanne straight and has lost the lead. It is unknown whether the #7 can restart and return to the pits. Edit: The #7 Toyota has retired from the race. The #2 Audi has inherited the lead and is > 5 laps ahead of the Toyota, the #20 Porsche is in second place, and the #1 Audi is in third.
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Post by PSVT on Sun 15 Jun 2014 - 8:14

With the finale of the 24 Hours of Le Mans:

Spoiler:
Congratulations to Audi (#2 and #1) for a 1-2 finish and to Toyota (#8) for their podium. Also thanks to Porsche for giving us such a great race in LMP1 despite their unfortunate troubles in the final hours. We haven't seen the last of them for sure!

Also, congratulations to #38 Jota Sport Zytek in LMP2 for their class victory in a very close and exciting race even that continued into the waning minutes. The same congrats to #51 AF Corse Ferrari in GTE Pro and #95 Aston Martin in GTE Am for their victories in their classes.
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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 15 Jun 2014 - 22:14

@PSVT wrote:With the finale of the 24 Hours of Le Mans:
3 major factory efforts this year and all three lead the race at one point or another.  That a gasoline powered, normally aspirated 3.7L V-8, a 4.0L turbo diesel V-6 and a 2.0L gasoline turbo V-4 are all on such equal footing says great things about the current rules package for the WEC.  Formula One could learn something from this.

Nissan plans to enter the series in 2015...and there's rumors of Ferrari joining the WEC too.  Are we headed for a new golden age of sports car racing?

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 16 Jun 2014 - 8:56

Yeah, I still think Toyota is going to win the WEC as they seem to have the best package for the "sprint" races. Thinking very hard about attending the 6 Hours of the Circuit of the Americas this year (and next).

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 21 Jun 2014 - 9:02

Formula 1 Grosser Preis Von Österreich 2014

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It seems more like 1994 than 2014 as Williams Martini Racing scores a 1-2 in qualifying, with Felipe Massa on pole and Valtteri Bottas second.

Mixed bag for the home team - Infiniti Red Bull Racing - as Sebastian Vettel barely made it out of Q3 and didn’t make it out of Q2 and Daniel Ricciardo was only able to secure fifth in Q3.

Kara is doing her happy dance as Fernando Alonso qualified fourth, so he at least has a chance at another podium.

A surprising stumble for Mercedes with Nico 3rd and Lewis 10th. Still, such a short power track should favor both in the race.

Have to say the Red Bull Ring looks like an amazing track from an attendee’s perspective. I normally only do a European F1 trip when Spa and Monza are back to back (as I can use the week in-between to visit France and Italy), but I I could very much see a trip to next year’s Austrian Grand Prix. The hillside general admission area looks like it has a view of the full track and I would think ticket prices would not be too bad. And it’s probably a great place to…caravan. (Kara:  Guh? )

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 21 Jun 2014 - 17:03

Catching up on highlights of WRC Round 6 - Rally Italia Sardegna - and looks like Day 2 was...interesting...

Spoiler:
The Ford Fiesta of Mikko Hirvonen catches fire and burns to the frame on Stage 2. During Stage 5, Juho Hanninen chucks his Hyundai i20 into the trees and demolishes the chassis.

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sat 21 Jun 2014 - 17:49

@Kiskaloo wrote:Formula 1 Grosser Preis Von Österreich 2014
All the new tracks added to the schedule have been constructed under the oversight of the Herman Tilke Group...and Tilke is very fond of highly abrasive aggregate mixes in the surface.  This provides high grip and high tire wear.
The newly re-built Austrian circuit bucks this trend, with a slippery asphalt mix, and I think that's a good thing.  For years F1 has been trying to slow the cornering speeds by taking downforce off the cars...while Tilke has been adding mechanical grip with his choice of asphalt.  I hope other track owners take notice of how things go this weekend, and consider their own surfaces when it's time to re-pave.


This year has to be tremendously vindicating for Felipe Massa.  Although his points tally isn't what it should be he's demonstrating that he's never lost his speed.  I've said it before; this year reminds me of the 1998 season when Damon Hill drove for Jordan.  Another driver who never got the respect he deserved, recently sacked by a top team (Williams, ironically) he gave this legacy a tremendous boost by leading a Jordan 1-2 finish in Belgium.  Hopefully a good 2014 for Massa (maybe even a win?) can similarly change the way we look back on his career once he finally hangs up the helmet.

Hamilton's Q3 spin seemed like a rear brake problem to me.  Could this indicate that Mercedes' issues with their regenerative braking system were not just a Montreal fluke?  That could certainly provide a glimmer of hope to the other teams.  In spite of Williams' front row lock-out I don't think anyone doubts Mercedes is still the fastest package out there...even if cracks are appearing in their armor.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 22 Jun 2014 - 9:13

Formula 1 Grosser Preis Von Österreich 2014 [Final Results]

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Another Mercedes AMG 1-2 with Rosberg again leading Hamilton to the checkered flag. Valtteri Bottas drove a solid race to secure a third place podium for Williams-Martini Racing, though I believe that if the team had better executed their pit stop strategy he might have been second. Massa faded a bit during the pit stops, but still brought it home fourth for a nice points haul for the team.

A quiet race for Fernando Alonso, leading for a short period and ending the race in fifth - one position behind where he started. Kimi Räikkönen was again mostly nowhere to finish 10th and it is becoming clearer with every race that the Scuderia should have hired Nico Hülkenberg instead and used the monies they saved on salary to do more development of the F14 T.

The Red Bull Ring was not kind to the Red Bull-branded teams, with mechanical issues knocking out both Scuderia Toro Rosso cars (a broken rear suspension for Daniil Kvyat and looks like front brake failure for Jean-Éric Vergne). Mechanical issues also struck Infiniti Red Bull Racing with the Overtake button evidently set this race to assist trailing cars in overtaking the RB10 by disconnecting the Renault Energy F1-2014 from the drivetrain. Doh! 

Permanently mired a lap down because of that, Sebastian Vettel eventually retired the car to save the Power Unit. Canada winner Daniel Ricciardo also struggled most of the race, pipping Hulkenberg on the last lap for 8th.

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Re: 2014 World Motorsports Discussion Thread

Post by topgearbrzgt86 on Sun 22 Jun 2014 - 14:09

@Kiskaloo wrote:Formula 1 Grosser Preis Von Österreich 2014 [Final Results]

Spoiler:

Another Mercedes AMG 1-2 with Rosberg again leading Hamilton to the checkered flag. Valtteri Bottas drove a solid race to secure a third place podium for Williams-Martini Racing, though I believe that if the team had better executed their pit stop strategy he might have been second. Massa faded a bit during the pit stops, but still brought it home fourth for a nice points haul for the team.

A quiet race for Fernando Alonso, leading for a short period and ending the race in fifth - one position behind where he started. Kimi Räikkönen was again mostly nowhere to finish 10th and it is becoming clearer with every race that the Scuderia should have hired Nico Hülkenberg instead and used the monies they saved on salary to do more development of the F14 T.

The Red Bull Ring was not kind to the Red Bull-branded teams, with mechanical issues knocking out both Scuderia Toro Rosso cars (a broken rear suspension for Daniil Kvyat and looks like front brake failure for Jean-Éric Vergne). Mechanical issues also struck Infiniti Red Bull Racing with the Overtake button evidently set this race to assist trailing cars in overtaking the RB10 by disconnecting the Renault Energy F1-2014 from the drivetrain. Doh! 

Permanently mired a lap down because of that, Sebastian Vettel eventually retired the car to save the Power Unit. Canada winner Daniel Ricciardo also struggled most of the race, pipping Hulkenberg on the last lap for 8th.
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Re: 2014 World Motorsports Discussion Thread

Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 28 Jun 2014 - 11:59

With the F1 Strategy Group and the FIA deciding against any meaningful cost controls for Formula One, Tony Fernandez appears to have called it a day. Rumors are that he has sold the Caterham F1 team to a Russian concern, though Dutch and Arabic suitors are also being spoken of.

The World Motorsport Council also approved that all Safety Car restarts will be standing starts (unless the Safety Car is deployed within two laps of the start of the race or five laps of the end of the race).

With McLaren moving to Honda power next year, Lotus is expected to switch to Mercedes engines in 2015. This leaves Red Bull, Torro Rosso and Caterham running Renault power and rumors are forming that Red Bull will buy out Renault F1 and launch their own engine (which would allow them to develop a new Power Unit for use starting in 2016).

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Re: 2014 World Motorsports Discussion Thread

Post by topgearbrzgt86 on Sat 28 Jun 2014 - 12:39

@Kiskaloo wrote:With the F1 Strategy Group and the FIA deciding against any meaningful cost controls for Formula One, Tony Fernandez appears to have called it a day. Rumors are that he has sold the Caterham F1 team to a Russian concern, though Dutch and Arabic suitors are also being spoken of.

The World Motorsport Council also approved that all Safety Car restarts will be standing starts (unless the Safety Car is deployed within two laps of the start of the race or five laps of the end of the race).

With McLaren moving to Honda power next year, Lotus is expected to switch to Mercedes engines in 2015. This leaves Red Bull, Torro Rosso and Caterham running Renault power and rumors are forming that Red Bull will buy out Renault F1 and launch their own engine (which would allow them to develop a new Power Unit for use starting in 2016).
Shame about Tony leaving Caterham; Marussia scoring 2 points in Monaco totally ruined Caterham's chances of winning any money.

I kinda like the idea of a standing restart. The cars' clutches aren't as delicate as they once were, so it could come down to how well you start than how well you finish. How would they make it safe?

The prospect of McLaren doing well with Honda is a bit of a grey area there. They are doing pretty decently with Mercedes; and with Lotus making the switch potentially to Mercedes, could we see Lotus make a Williams-like comeback in 2015?

I personally don't see Red Bull owning Renault F1, but I do see them make their own engine with Nissan/Infiniti (they're in an engineering part of Austria), if the 2015 year goes as badly as 2014.

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