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Post by emperor on Sun 23 Sep 2007 - 23:23

What it called,Titanium? or something assemble like this word.:idea:

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 23 Sep 2007 - 23:29

It's called adamantium, Emperor. And as to whether it could be incorporated into the girls' skeletal system, I suppose it could - assuming the stuff's been invented in the Gunslinger Girl universe. At any rate, I believe the girls' existing bone structure is something like Wolverine's, if somewhat less durable.
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Post by emperor on Sun 23 Sep 2007 - 23:37

somewhat less durable

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Post by Wileama on Sun 23 Sep 2007 - 23:45

Wolverine had Adamantium*. I don't know if such a thing would be possible for the girls. The 'weight' issue might be to big to resolve. Metal is fucking heavy, way heavier then carbon fiber. That and metal might cause some issue with bone marrow. Hell I don't know how they handle it in the first place.

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Post by emperor on Sun 23 Sep 2007 - 23:47

You made me think about blowing bone or something!! :shock:

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Post by LoC978 on Sun 23 Sep 2007 - 23:55

That and metal might cause some issue with bone marrow. Hell I don't know how they handle it in the first place.
that's why, in the X-Men universe, it took a mutant with crazy-powerful regeneration powers to survive the procedure.
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Can SWA put a Wolfvarine's matllic liquid into girls bone?
No.

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 24 Sep 2007 - 0:04

You've got a point there, LoC.

Admittedly, my knowledge of the X-Men - and other Marvel series - is fairly limited. I'm a DC/Vertigo man.
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Post by LoC978 on Mon 24 Sep 2007 - 0:08

mine's pretty limited too... but I was a big Wolverine fan as a boy. I still want those regen powers...

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Post by emperor on Mon 24 Sep 2007 - 0:34

I still want those regen powers...

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Post by Wileama on Mon 24 Sep 2007 - 1:44

Well here is the thing about that the bones. The girls have their bones replaced with carbon fiber ones. I think only weight stops them from using metal bones. So maybe not injection, but they could get the same end product. Well at least in terms of skeleton structure. There is nothing that comes close to explained what they do about bone marrow. Which is one thing I've always scratched my head over.

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Post by LoC978 on Mon 24 Sep 2007 - 6:31

The girls have their bones replaced with carbon fiber ones
are you certain of this? I've never seen Yu spell it out in plain language. I always see "reinforced", or "didn't have to replace" when bones are mentioned. While I agree that the bones of their limbs are completely artificial, I don't think they replaced everything in the torso. Also, I'm unsure as to how they did the skull. Might've replaced the bone, but they also might've just armor-plated it.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 24 Sep 2007 - 12:07

Lets keep it to today's standard. Bones have been surgetically wrapped for many years. Often with metal bands and screws. They also have been replace in the cases of bone cancer patients. So wrapping or replacing bone is not an issue. Joints can also be replaced with Titanium parts (hips, knees, shoulders, elbows and knuckles and fingers). So thats not a problem there. Just imagine getting hit by a fist made with titanium joints- it would be worst then getting hit by a sack of doorknobs!

Now as for actually doing this? Even with artifical skin, if one were to wrap or replace as much bone as possible- that would leave our pretty girls scarred up and looking like a reject from Frankenstien's lab.
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Post by Guest on Mon 24 Sep 2007 - 13:16

Heheheheheh
Triela+AdmatiumClaws=AWESOME.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 24 Sep 2007 - 14:31

DarlingRose wrote:Heheheheheh
Triela+AdmatiumClaws=AWESOME.
Killing Pinocchio would have been child's play then!
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Post by emperor on Mon 24 Sep 2007 - 17:08

@ElfenMagix wrote:
DarlingRose wrote:Heheheheheh
Triela+AdmatiumClaws=AWESOME.
Killing Pinocchio would have been child's play then!

Very innovated!!:lol!:

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Post by Wileama on Mon 24 Sep 2007 - 18:36

@LoC978 wrote:are you certain of this? I've never seen Yu spell it out in plain language. I always see "reinforced", or "didn't have to replace" when bones are mentioned. While I agree that the bones of their limbs are completely artificial, I don't think they replaced everything in the torso. Also, I'm unsure as to how they did the skull. Might've replaced the bone, but they also might've just armor-plated it.

I was till you asked. I can find any references to carbon fiber bones, though I don't feel like re-reading the entire series right now. Closest think I could find was carbon fiber frame Fermi mentions in volume 1. Not bones, but what else could it be? Considering that they said they said they where trying not to modify Petra's torso, that seems to imply that the gen 1 girls are modified there. The spine is more likely reinforced, but the rib cage could be artificial as well.

Anyway even if your just reinforcing why not sub out carbon fiber for metal. Might not be the same as wolverine, but close. Volume 9, Triela though Pino was hard, but wait until she meets her latest target! A Canadian veteran with a mysterious background, know as Logan...

Yeah, she'd lose. Badly.

That does little to solve the bone marrow problem though. According to wikipedia the limbs tend to have the most yellow marrow, where white blood cells come from. Maybe they just armor the bones. Or maybe the girls are figments of imagination that don't exist, and thus don't really have to work...

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Post by LoC978 on Mon 24 Sep 2007 - 19:27

the limbs tend to have the most yellow marrow, where white blood cells come from.
which would cause them to have a very low white blood cell count... hence:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/3467532/1/Beatrice_Gets_a_Cold

non-canonical, I know... but I think Maxwell had one hell of an idea with this one.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 24 Sep 2007 - 23:25

These would be the closest to modern tech we have that would be for GsG: http://www.spineuniverse.com/displayarticle.php/article2516.html

Before that, we have Jacob's Spinal Rods, and when I got injured in a long time ago- Hemminger Rods; similar to what Gloria Estefan has from her car accident. Mine was temporary, her is pernament.
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Post by rusty-spring on Tue 25 Sep 2007 - 10:17

Pfft...everybody knows that the girls are really made from popsicle sticks and scotch tape.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Tue 25 Sep 2007 - 15:11

@rusty-spring wrote:Pfft...everybody knows that the girls are really made from popsicle sticks and scotch tape.
There goes the 'Sugar and Spice and everything Nice' theory!
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Post by West Nile on Tue 5 May 2009 - 1:41

well with the advent of the new Wolverine movie, i think it would be just right to bring back this thread

Pinochio: *pant* *pant* so *pant* you gonnna stick me *pant* with your fingers *pant* again? *pant*

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Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Tue 5 May 2009 - 1:49

OMG THE FIRLS NEED AWESOME ADAMANTIUM EVERYHITNG!!

Do any of the girls ever pass through a metal detector?

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Post by West Nile on Tue 5 May 2009 - 2:42

@tsundere9kagami2 wrote:OMG THE FIRLS NEED AWESOME ADAMANTIUM EVERYHITNG!!

Do any of the girls ever pass through a metal detector?

i don't think so, if Triela did, she would have been busted in episode 4 a while back.

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Post by tsundere9kagami2 on Tue 5 May 2009 - 3:30

well they do work for the government so they might not even have to pass through metal detectors....ever.

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Post by West Nile on Tue 5 May 2009 - 3:51

@tsundere9kagami2 wrote:well they do work for the government so they might not even have to pass through metal detectors....ever.

episode 4 season 1 airport security: I'm sorry for the inconvenience sir, we didn't realize that you were with the government.

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Post by emperor on Wed 6 May 2009 - 1:24

Unless their gun,the girls have their claw to kill Padania!

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Post by West Nile on Sat 9 May 2009 - 23:52

ya, you can imagine how happy Ninja Claes would be...

Joze: you still think the adamantium claws are a good idea?
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Post by emperor on Mon 11 May 2009 - 3:24

And Claes has a boyfriend that he has claws like her.

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Post by boomer_gonz on Mon 11 May 2009 - 5:59

My assessment is a big residual...no.

Plating is a possibility similar to what is currently done with the girls. Providing that the adamantium is lightweight enough to not break the bone underneath due to stress.

Outright infusion is doubtful at best. The adamantium would have to be ionized into a sub-microscopic form and then infused using an electro-magnetic method that will most likely fry the peripheral nervous system in the process and all but doing the same to the central nervous system. Hence, Logan's healing factor being a catalyst.

It might be possible after ionizing it into a submicroscopic form and then infusing it into stem-cell proteins and thus afterward infusing it directly into the organic carbon structure of the skeletal system; similar to the techniques used to create Alpha.

But that process would take a few months as opposed to the 8 week max that I have surmised they reach for and the SWA isn't keen on the waiting game.

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Post by Guest on Mon 11 May 2009 - 10:58

And Claes has a boyfriend that he has claws like her.

I doubt Ehud would allow the Agency to cut Luke's hand and implant claws.

...what he'll be getting is an Israeli-manufactured LIGHTSABER

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 11 May 2009 - 21:45

I agree w/Boomer here.

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Tue 12 May 2009 - 6:59

Same.

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Post by emperor on Tue 12 May 2009 - 8:12

*Henrietta was disappionted by Boomer's latest reply*

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