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Re: Triela

Post by Officer_Charon on Thu 25 Nov 2010 - 2:48

Now that's something of an idea... in this alternate world, these girls never suffered the injuries and tribulations that brought them to the SWA.

Of course for some, like Rico, this would not necessarily be a good thing...

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Post by Nachtsider on Thu 25 Nov 2010 - 3:01

But why? If you go by the rules of this alternate universe, Rico would've grown up a normal, happy, healthy child. I see nothing negative about that.

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Post by Officer_Charon on Thu 25 Nov 2010 - 4:08

Ehh... point... what's good for the goose is good for the gander, after all.

A good bit of this would require speculation as to the nature of their personalities without the conditioning, though... or in this AR are we assuming their personalities to be in-line with their canon personalities?

... Or am I investing too much thought into a whim?

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Post by crazyidiot78 on Thu 25 Nov 2010 - 8:29

I don't think so. It is an interesting thought experiment and I don't think that the conditioning changes their basic personalities very much as we see a lot of things carry over with petra.

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Post by Pinakbet on Wed 1 Dec 2010 - 0:09

Nachtsider wrote:But why? If you go by the rules of this alternate universe, Rico would've grown up a normal, happy, healthy child. I see nothing negative about that.


Hmm yep and then the story would be too drab and trite....I'm guessing it would be safe to presume that we as in everybody in this forum all are attracted to melancholy and bittersweet endings like the guy saves the girl but in the process he dies or when ghosts get to finally rest in peace like that one episode in johnny quest the ghosts take over johnny and that red-head and they finally make amends and the island disappears now that they can rest in peace, the new(est) ones that were shown on cartoon network in the late 90's-early 2000's. You know what I'm talking about though right?( in regards to the point I'm trying to make.)

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Post by Schaschanist on Sun 9 Jan 2011 - 13:25

Does anybody knows how tall Triela is exactly? (In Centimeters, please. we use the metric system here ^_^ )
I think i have read over this.

Is Hillshire such a short man or is Triela really such a 'really tall' girl?


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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 9 Jan 2011 - 13:32

schaschanist wrote:Does anybody knows how tall Triela is exactly?

Yu created a chart for all of the GSG characters:


Henrietta = 140 cm (4'7")
Angelica = 147 cm (4'9")
Rico = 153 cm (5'0")
Claes = 158 cm (5'2")
Petrushka = 160 cm (5’3”)
Triela = 164 cm (5'4")

Hilshire = 178 cm (5'9")
Jose = 180 cm (5'10")
Jean = 184 cm (6'0”)
Marco = 186 cm (6'1")

Pinocchio = 172 cm ('5'7")
Franca = 180 cm (5'10")
Franco = 193 cm (6'4")

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Post by Schaschanist on Sun 9 Jan 2011 - 14:03

Kiskaloo wrote:Petrushka = 160 cm (5’3”)
Triela = 164 cm (5'4")
Err, is Triela taller than Petra?
I can't believe that.
Triela looks younger than Petra so i think its the other way round.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 9 Jan 2011 - 14:05

According to Yu Aida, she is.

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Post by Schaschanist on Sun 9 Jan 2011 - 14:23

Awesome but not really logical.

But thanks for the data.
I wanted to know that to set Emilie's height.


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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 9 Jan 2011 - 14:25

schaschanist wrote:Awesome but not really logical.

Aren't ballerines usually small and short?

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Post by Awinnell on Sun 9 Jan 2011 - 14:41

Kiskaloo wrote:
schaschanist wrote:Awesome but not really logical.

Aren't ballerines usually small and short?

5'3 to 5'7 on average, plus 4 inches or so more on Pointe


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Post by Triela on Sun 9 Jan 2011 - 14:46

Oh yay! I'm Triela's height! ^_^

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Post by Professor Voodoo on Sun 9 Jan 2011 - 16:23

Triela's height...as well as that of all the other girls...seems to vary according to what Yu needs that particular day.

Compare that to Schaschanist's pic...
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Re: Triela

Post by Alfisti on Mon 10 Jan 2011 - 3:33

Kiskaloo wrote:
schaschanist wrote:Awesome but not really logical.

Aren't ballerines usually small and short?
I think I remember Elizabetha having a whinge about not being tall enough to take lead roles in the ballet.

schaschanist wrote:(In Centimeters, please. we use the metric system here ^_^ )
We use the metric system here as well... but I still find it easier to think in imperial measure when it comes to things like height.


As to maintaining heights between characters; trust me when I say it's a bit of a pain in the arse. I tend to try and have Monty coming up to just below Jethro's shoulders, but there's always a bit in the back of my head screaming that she should be taller...

...and to be honest, sometimes you're just happy to get something that looks vaguly like the character you wanted to draw.

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Post by ChaosKin640 on Mon 10 Jan 2011 - 6:09

I think I remember Elizabetha having a whinge about not being tall enough to take lead roles in the ballet.
She was, but during her conversion, Sandro specifically mentioned his desire to have her height increased by several inches. (Vol.06, Ch.31. Pg.25) It was about the only input he gave in picking her physical appearance.
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Post by Awinnell on Mon 10 Jan 2011 - 8:14

ChaosKin640 wrote:
I think I remember Elizabetha having a whinge about not being tall enough to take lead roles in the ballet.
She was, but during her conversion, Sandro specifically mentioned his desire to have her height increased by several inches. (Vol.06, Ch.31. Pg.25) It was about the only input he gave in picking her physical appearance.

whether a female dancer gets a role or not depends almost entirely on the height of the male dancers in the company,also, companys tend to pick dancers for the corps to be about the same height for balance,however this is of less importance for lead roles or character roles,it is preferred that the female dancer be about the same height as her partner when on pointe,so Elizabetha must of had a lot of tall male dancers in her company !

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 10 Jan 2011 - 18:38

ChaosKin640 wrote:
I think I remember Elizabetha having a whinge about not being tall enough to take lead roles in the ballet.
She was, but during her conversion, Sandro specifically mentioned his desire to have her height increased by several inches. (Vol.06, Ch.31. Pg.25) It was about the only input he gave in picking her physical appearance.
They stretched her legs out through surgery but not her arms. This makes her a bit odd looking if you look at her closely. How? Why?

If you stretch out your arms, the distance from finger tip to finger tip is the same as your height. Making one's legs longer through surgery, offsets this balance!

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Post by Awinnell on Mon 10 Jan 2011 - 18:50

ElfenMagix wrote:
ChaosKin640 wrote:
I think I remember Elizabetha having a whinge about not being tall enough to take lead roles in the ballet.
She was, but during her conversion, Sandro specifically mentioned his desire to have her height increased by several inches. (Vol.06, Ch.31. Pg.25) It was about the only input he gave in picking her physical appearance.
They stretched her legs out through surgery but not her arms. This makes her a bit odd looking if you look at her closely. How? Why?

If you stretch out your arms, the distance from finger tip to finger tip is the same as your height. Making one's legs longer through surgery, offsets this balance!

a girl in the UK had her legs lengthened so she could get a job as a stewardess,

The surgical procedure Emma underwent involved breaking the thigh bone in both legs in two places.

Six five inch pins were then screwed into each bone and attached to a metal frame.

Over the next four months, Emma was bedridden while the screws were turned four times a day to draw the broken bones away from each other.

Her body responded naturally by creating new bone to fill the gap.

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Post by Schaschanist on Mon 10 Jan 2011 - 19:00

I had another look on pictures of Triela.

It looks to me like she had grown up during the whole manga (unfortunately only till chapter 68). (in Both, mentally and physical)
In the later chapters she looks better and better.
I mean, just look at this:

What a adorable princess.

Set her as my second favorite.
And in my OC, she's becoming best-friends with Emi. (Thats my she called her "my Belgian sister")

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Post by Schaschanist on Wed 12 Jan 2011 - 15:10

Hey Folks.

I just want to ask if there are more pictures of Triela like this one.

I think she looks best in that picture. (She's getting more and more my new favorite Good )

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Post by badbart101 on Sun 10 Apr 2011 - 1:02

schaschanist wrote:Hey Folks.

I just want to ask if there are more pictures of Triela like this one.

I think she looks best in that picture. (She's getting more and more my new favorite Good )

She would have to be my favorite her story at one point was the only reason i was kept reading.
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Heelllooo Triela!

Post by Darkstar117 on Tue 24 May 2011 - 21:22



First thing I thought of when I saw this pic.
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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 24 May 2011 - 21:29

If she cut her hair and spent a few months with Britney in SoCal... Wink

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Post by Darkstar117 on Tue 24 May 2011 - 21:45

Or long enough with Mimi Machiavelli.


OK, a few more... Maybe on an OP in Northwestern Tunisia?

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Post by Nachtsider on Tue 24 May 2011 - 22:00

My god. The last two are right out of my fanfic where the GSGs go to Iraq.

That being said, her face is a little... off for Triela. I think it's the eyes; they're kinda wide-set and almond-shaped.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Tue 24 May 2011 - 22:35

I so agree Nacht.

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Post by Triela on Wed 25 May 2011 - 1:18

Agree, but better than some actual Triela cosplayers! XD

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Post by Nachtsider on Wed 25 May 2011 - 2:19

Triela wrote:Agree, but better than some actual Triela cosplayers! XD
You got me there. Can't argue with that one bit.

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Post by Alfisti on Wed 25 May 2011 - 4:07

Triela wrote:Agree, but better than some actual Triela cosplayers! XD
Seconded.

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Post by Darkstar117 on Wed 25 May 2011 - 21:51

Here's a few more.



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Post by Nachtsider on Wed 25 May 2011 - 22:13

She looks somewhat better in that last one.

Who is she, Darkstar, and where did you get these photos from?

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Post by Danjo3 on Thu 26 May 2011 - 0:34

Kiskaloo wrote:If she cut her hair and spent a few months with Britney in SoCal... Wink
Looks like she might be Britney’s long lost big sister… if she had one. Hmm, could make an interesting story arc – missing Kensington sibling is found working as a CIA assassin. What are the odds?

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Post by Darkstar117 on Thu 26 May 2011 - 7:51

Nachtsider wrote:She looks somewhat better in that last one.

Who is she, Darkstar, and where did you get these photos from?


She's a member on another website that I frequent. Her name is Nikki Lane.


You can find more of her stuff here, but you're going to have to register on the site. It's free, and NOT porn (well, a lot of gun porn...).
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Re: Triela

Post by Darkstar117 on Thu 26 May 2011 - 8:29







More with the M1897.
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Re: Triela

Post by Lyndist on Thu 26 May 2011 - 8:57





FAR MORE BETTER THAN THIS PORN COSPLAYER

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Post by maverick375 on Thu 26 May 2011 - 20:53

She has GOT to be a GSG fan. If she isn't, get her to sign on, Darkstar.

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Post by Odon on Sun 19 Jun 2011 - 7:51

Darkstar117 wrote:More with the M1897.

Also this one!



Errr, maybe not....

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Post by Officer_Charon on Sun 19 Jun 2011 - 16:26

I'm just happy to see her outstanding trigger discipline!

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Post by Alfisti on Sat 10 Sep 2011 - 23:27

Not sure where else to put this, but drawn by the excellently talented traghetto:



This of course isn't his first time drawing GSG as he has also drawn Jethro + Monty before now.

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Post by Nachtsider on Sat 10 Sep 2011 - 23:54

Man, those legs just go on and on.

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Post by tremec6speed on Sun 11 Sep 2011 - 16:27

Nice art. Holy Mackerel, Jumpin' Jiminie and Sufferin' Succotash! Poor Monty looks down right worried or is she simply venting because it's hot in there.
(Jethro does not seem particularly bothered, I'll um, leave it at that) Smile
Hmmmm... I always thought Monty was a little more......um, developed? How old is she Alfisti?
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Pityfull comments on the artist's part: "I never make OCs (based on existing works) nor do I like OCs, they are, made of fail and AIDS etc.".......
Don't get me wrong, he don't like OCs? Hey what ever it's fine by me, but made of 'fail', 'AIDS', wow that's sad.


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Post by Alfisti on Mon 12 Sep 2011 - 4:11

tremec6speed wrote:Hmmmm... I always thought Monty was a little more......um, developed? How old is she Alfisti?
Monty? 14 at time of conversion (so physically 14), 16 in years... and about 36 in terms of jaded cynicism. Razz

As to Traghetto's comments... I don't really have a problem with them. It's one of the perceptions out there and, well, considering how many bad OCs get created (and I hope mine aren't some of them) it's easy to see how that particular view comes about. At least it makes for some interesting debate Wink

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Post by razschi on Tue 13 Sep 2011 - 8:29

schaschanist wrote:
Kiskaloo wrote:Petrushka = 160 cm (5’3”)
Triela = 164 cm (5'4")
Err, is Triela taller than Petra?
I can't believe that.
Triela looks younger than Petra so i think its the other way round.

Triela really is younger than Petra... it's just that she's taller. Sometimes, age does't influence height. For example, I had friends that when they were about 8 years old, they were about 170 cm high.
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Post by Tross on Tue 3 Apr 2012 - 1:36

As has been said, Petra's height was increased when she was admitted to the cyborg program, but she's naturally short. Girls can be tall, but it's not unusual for them to be short either. A short girl sticks out a lot less than a short guy. Triela could be tall for her age, so I actually believe that she could be slightly taller than Petra. Her height also kind of fits with her role as an older sister figure for the other first generation cyborgs.
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Post by crazyidiot78 on Tue 3 Apr 2012 - 7:41

Tross wrote:As has been said, Petra's height was increased when she was admitted to the cyborg program, but she's naturally short. Girls can be tall, but it's not unusual for them to be short either. A short girl sticks out a lot less than a short guy. Triela could be tall for her age, so I actually believe that she could be slightly taller than Petra. Her height also kind of fits with her role as an older sister figure for the other first generation cyborgs.

Also don't forget that Petra was a Ballerina which would make her a bit shorter due to dietary restrictions to remain light similar to gymnasts. On top of that there was probably only so much they could do to make Petra taller as i doubt they did much to lengthen the torse focusing more on the arms and legs. To much of a height increase would have put her body out of proportion making her stand out more.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Tue 3 Apr 2012 - 14:04

Tross wrote:As has been said, Petra's height was increased when she was admitted to the cyborg program, but she's naturally short. Girls can be tall, but it's not unusual for them to be short either. A short girl sticks out a lot less than a short guy. Triela could be tall for her age, so I actually believe that she could be slightly taller than Petra. Her height also kind of fits with her role as an older sister figure for the other first generation cyborgs.
Actually, Triela is a lot shorter then Petra, and definitely shorter than Elizabetta before her conversion. Petra is as tall of taller than her handler 'Sandro, and Triela is no where near that height. Somewhere there is a height scale of the characters according to Season 2 of the Gunslinger Girl Anime, and it shows that Triela is quiet short.

The only time Triela was tall was when she was adjusted to look like an adult was she and Hillshire were protecting the Roberta the Prosecutor and that required the lengthening of her artificial limbs. Since then she was returned to her normal height.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 3 Apr 2012 - 14:09

ElfenMagix wrote:The only time Triela was tall was when she was adjusted to look like an adult was she and Hillshire were protecting the Roberta the Prosecutor and that required the lengthening of her artificial limbs. Since then she was returned to her normal height.

I still think Sandro did that through putting Triela in heels. *shrug*

That being said, I have used limb extensions on Claes to make her look older (and will use them on Kara), though these modifications are permanent in nature in my world.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Tue 3 Apr 2012 - 21:24

Kiskaloo wrote:
ElfenMagix wrote:The only time Triela was tall was when she was adjusted to look like an adult was she and Hillshire were protecting the Roberta the Prosecutor and that required the lengthening of her artificial limbs. Since then she was returned to her normal height.

I still think Sandro did that through putting Triela in heels. *shrug*

That being said, I have used limb extensions on Claes to make her look older (and will use them on Kara), though these modifications are permanent in nature in my world.
'Sandro would do that to see Meeshie in heels!

That is an interesting concept to see in action. Question I ask is are they still adjustable as they continue to age or are they fixated at that point?

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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 3 Apr 2012 - 22:18

ElfenMagix wrote:Question I ask is are they still adjustable as they continue to age or are they fixated at that point?

They would be fixed as I am of the opinion once converted, the natural physical aging process stops (though the mental aging process does not).

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Post by Tross on Sun 8 Apr 2012 - 18:14

It seems there are inconsistencies in Triela's height. I think I'll let that one slide given the quality of the writing for this series. I guess even Yu Aida isn't absolutely perfect all the time.
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Post by Alfisti on Sun 8 Apr 2012 - 19:31

Tross wrote:It seems there are inconsistencies in Triela's height. I think I'll let that one slide given the quality of the writing for this series. I guess even Yu Aida isn't absolutely perfect all the time.
The cyborgs' heights all seem to vary somewhat throughout the series. Personally I've always just put it down to Yu's style developing throughout... also, having tried the comic thing myself, I can tell you that there are some times when all you're interested in doing is getting the blasted page done on time and will happily put up with some height inconsistencies to achieve that. Razz

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Post by Tross on Sun 8 Apr 2012 - 23:39

That makes sense. Especially considering that the creator of a manga series typically writes and draws it. I've come across one exception, but the artist worked really closely with the writer. Comic books typically have a writer, and more than one person to do the art(one to draw it, one to ink it, and one to do the colours). The writer just writes, and the artists do the art. Manga is typically done in black and white, but between the writing, pencils, and inks, I'm pretty sure it's a lot of work for one person, especially if there's a deadline.
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Post by Alfisti on Sun 8 Apr 2012 - 23:52

Tross wrote:That makes sense. Especially considering that the creator of a manga series typically writes and draws it. I've come across one exception, but the artist worked really closely with the writer. Comic books typically have a writer, and more than one person to do the art(one to draw it, one to ink it, and one to do the colours). The writer just writes, and the artists do the art. Manga is typically done in black and white, but between the writing, pencils, and inks, I'm pretty sure it's a lot of work for one person, especially if there's a deadline.
Pretty much... I've always felt the manga artist gets a bit more creative freedom in that manner: they write the script, but if they find a better way to say something without words and instead in images they can easially re-jig to suit with resonably ease... harder to do with a team. That said (and I'm sure I'll raise a few heckles with this), the larger team a western comic book enjoys means, in general, much higher quality artwork (particularly of late). Personally I like both.

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Post by Tross on Mon 9 Apr 2012 - 1:44

Well, nowadays especially, comic book art tends to be more detailed than it used to be. But, whether or not comic book art is better is subjective. It has the advantage of colour, and there are a variety of different art styles. That's not to say that manga doesn't have varying art styles. At the very least though, characters in manga look similar, with slight differences depending on who draws them, but otherwise, there's a distinct "look" to manga characters, while comic book characters can't be nailed down to one specific art style. Backgrounds and objects are a different story though, and those aspects of manga art aren't necessarily regulated to a specific style. I think Yu Aida's art looks fairly realistic at times, particularly when he's drawing historical Italian buildings, landmarks or art. Comics tend to have bigger panels to work with, so that might also make a bit of a difference. And yes, comic book artists only have to concentrate on doing the art, which is probably beneficial.

The downside with colour in comics, is that it's a major feature of the art itself. It's all drawn with the intention of being in colour, so so called "DC style reprints" which remove all colour, tend to look a little off, while manga always looks good in black and white, due to being drawn with the intention of being presented that way. Even if a comic's art was grayscaled, as opposed to having all colour removed, I doubt it'd look as good as manga art. I'm glad someone else noticed that a manga's art is another avenue for its creator to express him or herself, and present the story. Manga is a visual medium, and its art is definitely not just pretty pictures. Not only could a scene be presented through just the art, with no dialogue, if it's appropriate to do so, but the art can give a scene the right atmosphere, which is something that cannot be achieved through the dialogue alone(though comic book art does that too). Colour drives up the printing cost, which is why manga is a lot cheaper per page, and is more often seen in graphic novel(or Tankobon) form.

I'd say there are pros and cons to both manga and comic book art, and at the end of the day, both types of art are distinct to certain regions, so that's also a reason to appreciate both for what they are.
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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 9 Apr 2012 - 2:59

The unfortunate thing is, though, that many mangas these days rely too heavily on fancy artwork as their selling point, leaving themselves sparse in the writing department.

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Post by Alfisti on Mon 9 Apr 2012 - 3:32

Tross wrote:I'd say there are pros and cons to both manga and comic book art, and at the end of the day, both types of art are distinct to certain regions, so that's also a reason to appreciate both for what they are.
Absolutely.

I'd agree that, particularly modern comics don't work so well without colour... to be honest I often find looking at just inks plain confusing. On the flipside of the coin: I think colour is a fantastic way to help set mood, identify scene changes, times of day, etc. There have been a number of instances where the setting has changed in a manga and it's taken me two or three pages to realise. I know when I was doing my own fancomic I considered multiple times going to grey-scale in order to speed up the production process; but each time always stayed with colour because it gave me one more tool in my arsenal. Hats off to those who can work effectively with just greyscale.

I guess how the illustrations and script work together has a lot to do with the genre being utilised. Little character shorts seem to get away with almost no background work at all, but utilise (often exagerated) expression... then there's stuff like Aria where the environment is almost as important as the characters themselves. Either is fine, so long as both components are working together... one of my pet hates is when someone doesn't let both do their jobs and feels the need to have the characters talk about every little thing they do, it defeats the purpose of having two ways to communicate. That extends to internal monologues/thought bubbles as well (Deadpool excepted obviously). The reader (probably) isn't an idiot, let them work it out for themselves.

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