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Re: Beatrice

Post by sasahara17 on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 2:42

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@sasahara17 wrote:Maybe it was that or get a job flipping burgers.
*wince*

I can see what something like that can do to a man's ego.

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Re: Beatrice

Post by hydra282 on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 15:49

Sandro's not James Bond. It didn't seem like he actually liked being a prostitute for the govt.

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Re: Beatrice

Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 16:12

@hydra282 wrote:Sandro's not James Bond. It didn't seem like he actually liked being a prostitute for the govt.

I think it was more he was in love with, or at least strongly emotionally attracted to, Rossana.

When she left Public Safety, he was not long in following her. Wiki says he moved to Special Operations Section 1 (which would be under Draghi), but is that correct? I notice the non-ADV translation of Volume 6 says Louis Duvalier speaks with a Russian accent and the English text of his speaking to Alessandro at the hospital was written to reflect this. Yet Alessandro says he needs to practice with a native Russian speaker - so wouldn't Duvalier work? Or Olga?

And yet in the next chapter when he is speaking with his two female assistants, he's not using the "stilted English" from the previous chapter, though it's back when he speaks with Alessandro after they secure Elizabetta at the hospital.

Then again, it might just be the translation that is stilted, since some of it doesn't follow proper English grammar. Smile

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 19:06

@Kiskaloo wrote:
@hydra282 wrote:Sandro's not James Bond. It didn't seem like he actually liked being a prostitute for the govt.

I think it was more he was in love with, or at least strongly emotionally attracted to, Rossana.

In the first place he being in Section 1 has everything to do with Rossana. Anyway if you say he's a Section 1 reject I won't be surprised. Remember he wasn't their ideal operative? Erm... *flip pages* ah here it is. Chapter 41 page 2-3. Probably lost favour with the higher-ups after Rossana disappeared because they thought he would become like her and disappear.

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Re: Beatrice

Post by boomer_gonz on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 19:26

@Kiskaloo wrote:
I think it was more he was in love with, or at least strongly emotionally attracted to, Rossana.

The "Say 'HI' to daddy scene" and Sandro's reaction still stand out in my mind. Absolutely priceless.

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 21:17

@hydra282 wrote:Sandro's not James Bond. It didn't seem like he actually liked being a prostitute for the govt.
I like to think that he was. The possibilities for humor at his expense are delightful.

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Re: Beatrice

Post by boomer_gonz on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 21:26

Indeed.

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Sandro: Stop calling me shrimp! I was paid to bang hot chicks on a daily basis so there.
Hillshire: You're still short.
Fernando: And pathetic.
Alpha: Not to mention dopey.
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-Sandro runs away and stops a few hallways down-

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Sandro: You too Triela? WAAAAA!!!!!!!

-Sandro runs off and jumps out of a window, but forgot he was on the first story and landed on Claes' newly planted tree.-

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Re: Beatrice

Post by ElfenMagix on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 23:12

:lol!:

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Re: Beatrice

Post by Danjo3 on Sat 20 Jun 2009 - 2:24

I think its safe to assume that Sandro had no moral objections to joining Section 2.

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Re: Beatrice

Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 20 Jun 2009 - 10:08

@Danjo3 wrote:I think its safe to assume that Sandro had no moral objections to joining Section 2.

I would think that is safe to assume for the entire staff. Wink

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Re: Beatrice

Post by MikhailN on Sat 20 Jun 2009 - 10:12

@Kiskaloo wrote:
@Danjo3 wrote:I think its safe to assume that Sandro had no moral objections to joining Section 2.

I would think that is safe to assume for the entire staff. Wink

Half correct. Most of them have no problems about Section 2, if not they would have ended up like Raballo. However, bearing in mind Hilshire's unique position, he does have objections to joining Section 2 but joined anyway simply because it was Hobson's choice.

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Re: Beatrice

Post by maverick375 on Sat 20 Jun 2009 - 10:48

"Say hello to your papa."
"Papa!!"
::Sandro chokes on cigarette.::
Funny stuff. Rossana is allowed to joke with him like that because they were close. Somehow, I doubt Sandro would be able to appreciate such a joke from anyone else at the agency.

Maybe he would take the abuse, but it would only further cement in his mind that he is simply not like the other handlers. He just does not fit in in the way he thinks.

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Re: Beatrice

Post by ElfenMagix on Sat 20 Jun 2009 - 17:15

According to THAT Volume, 'Sandro's Section 1 Supervisor stated to him that he was still working for Section 1 even if he is working for Section 2... It goes to show you, even if you retire from the agency, they will do something to drag you back in!

Besides- which side is 'Sandro working on?!!

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Re: Beatrice

Post by MikhailN on Sat 20 Jun 2009 - 18:02

@ElfenMagix wrote:According to THAT Volume, 'Sandro's Section 1 Supervisor stated to him that he was still working for Section 1 even if he is working for Section 2... It goes to show you, even if you retire from the agency, they will do something to drag you back in!

Besides- which side is 'Sandro working on?!!

Knowing him, the winning side

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Re: Beatrice

Post by Danjo3 on Sun 21 Jun 2009 - 5:13

@MikhailN wrote:
@ElfenMagix wrote:Besides- which side is 'Sandro working on?!!
Knowing him, the winning side
More like whichever side gets him laid the most. And since Section 2 gave him his own personal little love slave, that pretty much answers the question.

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Re: Beatrice

Post by sasahara17 on Sun 21 Jun 2009 - 9:54

@Danjo3 wrote:More like whichever side gets him laid the most. And since Section 2 gave him his own personal little love slave, that pretty much answers the question.
You forgot to mention that Petra, probably by request, might be completely sterile. Free sex with a completely willing partner with totally hot body? No need to pay for expensive contraceptives? And being paid on top of all that?

Damn, We've found a perve... *ahem* 'very hormone driven adult male's dream job!

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 21 Jun 2009 - 10:21

I expect all the girls are sterile. It makes the most sense to me to do so.

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Post by sasahara17 on Sun 21 Jun 2009 - 10:29

@Kiskaloo wrote:I expect all the girls are sterile. It makes the most sense to me to do so.
Darn. There goes Triela getting pregnant and Hillshire going batshit on the guy who did it to his darling daughter.

I'm a sucker for shotgun marriages.

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Re: Beatrice

Post by Danjo3 on Sun 21 Jun 2009 - 11:12

@sasahara17 wrote:You forgot to mention that Petra, probably by request, might be completely sterile. Free sex with a completely willing partner with totally hot body? No need to pay for expensive contraceptives? And being paid on top of all that?

Damn, We've found a perve... *ahem* 'very hormone driven adult male's dream job!
Ya know what? Youre right! Why the hell am I ripping on Sandro - sign my ass up! dancin\\'
@sasahara17 wrote:There goes Triela getting pregnant and Hillshire going batshit on the guy who did it to his darling daughter.
I think Triela already knows who she wants to father her children. Shes probably been online looking up German baby names. Laughing

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Re: Beatrice

Post by boomer_gonz on Sun 21 Jun 2009 - 13:11

@sasahara17 wrote:
@Kiskaloo wrote:I expect all the girls are sterile. It makes the most sense to me to do so.
Darn. There goes Triela getting pregnant and Hillshire going batshit on the guy who did it to his darling daughter.

I'm a sucker for shotgun marriages.

But who's holding the shotgun?

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Re: Beatrice

Post by sasahara17 on Sun 21 Jun 2009 - 22:48

@Danjo3 wrote:
@sasahara17 wrote:Damn,
We've found a perve... *ahem* 'very hormone driven adult male's dream
job!
Ya know what? Youre right! Why the hell am I ripping on
Sandro - sign my ass up! dancin\\'
Yup. Sandro is merely a victim to his job. For once, I envy the man.

@Danjo3 wrote:
@sasahara17 wrote:There
goes Triela getting pregnant and Hillshire going batshit on the guy who
did it to his darling daughter.
I think Triela already knows who
she wants to father her children. Shes probably been online looking up
German baby names. Laughing
That's so sweet!

@boomer_gonz wrote:
@sasahara17 wrote:I'm a sucker for shotgun marriages.
But who's holding the shotgun?
Assuming he isn't the father (If he is, he'll be having a whole different world of problems) Hillshire will be. He'd borrow his daughter's 1897 and go looking for the S.O.B. who knocked her up.

I'd wager papa bear will do things to his future son-in-law that would make Jean blush.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sun 21 Jun 2009 - 23:16

@sasahara17 wrote:I'd wager papa bear will do things to his future son-in-law that would make Jean blush.

And proudly display it in a Modern Arts Museum...
"Blown Brains w/Bashed in Skull" by VH Hillshire.

"Shotgun Inserted In Rectum" by VH Hillshire.

"Ripped off limb and beaten w/bloody stump..." by VH Hillshire.

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Post by Danjo3 on Mon 22 Jun 2009 - 3:07

@ElfenMagix wrote:"Blown Brains w/Bashed in Skull" by VH Hillshire.

"Shotgun Inserted In Rectum" by VH Hillshire.

"Ripped off limb and beaten w/bloody stump..." by VH Hillshire.
In truth, these are the things Triela would do to any guy (besides Hillshire) who tried to hit on her.

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Post by boomer_gonz on Mon 22 Jun 2009 - 18:00

And if she hits on someone beside Hilshire and she is rebuked?

Evil

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Post by MikhailN on Mon 22 Jun 2009 - 18:07

@boomer_gonz wrote:And if she hits on someone beside Hilshire and she is rebuked?

Evil

Why do you think Hillshire is so frightened? This little girl blasts and stabs terrorists in her free time and occasionally tears throats out of boy assassins so that they die a silent, horrible death and now she's snuggling up to me? Guh? What do I do? Guh?

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 22 Jun 2009 - 21:48

"Your name is Hillshire. Time to serve some breakfast _________ (left intentionally blank for your imagination)!"

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Post by sasahara17 on Tue 23 Jun 2009 - 6:23

...

*Ahem*

Well, it seems that the job of an SWA handlers is only a dream job if you are a pervert. If you're anything but (like Hillshire) you either bow to the mistress, or die horribly.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Tue 23 Jun 2009 - 21:17

...or both.

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Post by Danjo3 on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 3:01

@MikhailN wrote:What do I do? Guh?
Anything she wants! Laughing

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Post by MikhailN on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 3:14

@Danjo3 wrote:
@MikhailN wrote:What do I do? Guh?
Anything she wants! Laughing

Even if I don't want to?

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Post by Nachtsider on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 3:15

Your resistance will only arouse her more.

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Post by MikhailN on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 3:21

@Nachtsider wrote:Your resistance will only arouse her more.

Ah so that's the root of all those jokes about Triela.

I always thought they started from that strange (possibly mistranslated) line in Chapter 3 page 6. I truly believe that that's going to turn out to be a Chekov's Gun and find its way back into the story just like Mario Bossi in the same chapter. Then we'll have more jokes

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Post by boomer_gonz on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 3:23

@Nachtsider wrote:Your resistance will only arouse her more.

Hey! That's my meme! Evil

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Post by Danjo3 on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 9:52

@Nachtsider wrote:Your resistance will only arouse her more.
:lol!: Triela: "Yes! I love it when they fight!"

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Post by ElfenMagix on Wed 24 Jun 2009 - 17:15

@boomer_gonz wrote:
@Nachtsider wrote:Your resistance will only arouse her more.

Hey! That's my meme! Evil
But look who is in the root of it... (or I should say- at the other end of the cell phone making the call!)

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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 14 Jul 2009 - 15:31

Ok, since weve started to learn a good bit more about the girls and their handlers in recent chapters and episodes, I thought it might not be a bad time to revise their sections in the wiki. I also took the liberty of trimming them a bit, since in many cases they were more plot summaries than character summaries. Let me know what you think, please.


Beatrice is able to smell explosives either on a person or structure, an ability used by her handler, Bernardo, to help identify potential suspects. In both the anime and manga she is portrayed as both apathetic and unemotional. She forms a friendship with Claes, who teaches her botany and gardening. Beatrice's preferred weapon is the IMI Micro Uzi machine pistol.


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Post by ElfenMagix on Tue 14 Jul 2009 - 18:31

No mention of her handler being Bernardo?

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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 14 Jul 2009 - 18:33

I couldn't think of an elegant way to mention him, so I just added an inelegant way.

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Post by emperor on Wed 15 Jul 2009 - 3:36

Beatrice is able to smell explosives either on a person or structure, an ability used by her handler, Bernardo, to help identify potential suspects. In both the anime and manga she is portrayed as both apathetic and unemotional. She forms a friendship with Claes, who teaches her botany and gardening. Beatrice's preferred weapon is the IMI Micro Uzi machine pistol.

I think you should adding about what chapter she die.

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Post by MikhailN on Wed 15 Jul 2009 - 4:47

@emperor wrote:
Beatrice is able to smell explosives either on a person or structure, an ability used by her handler, Bernardo, to help identify potential suspects. In both the anime and manga she is portrayed as both apathetic and unemotional. She forms a friendship with Claes, who teaches her botany and gardening. Beatrice's preferred weapon is the IMI Micro Uzi machine pistol.

I think you should adding about what chapter she die.

I don't think so. Right now it's a speculation because we haven't seen it with our own eyes yet so nope, nothing about her supposed death until chapter 64 says so

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Re: Beatrice

Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 15 Jul 2009 - 10:04

Personally, if she survived taking a 20mm anti-aircraft round through the lower chest then these girls are immortal. Since I don't believe they are, I am of what I believe to be an informed opinion she is killed, but that is an opinion and that's not really appropriate for a Wiki entry.

I'll have the Volume 11 tankobon by the end of the month (it releases on July 27th) so hopefully that tells us either way.

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Post by MikhailN on Wed 15 Jul 2009 - 10:12

@Kiskaloo wrote:I'll have the Volume 11 tankobon by the end of the month (it releases on July 27th) so hopefully that tells us either way.

Do I hear the word "scans?" cheers

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Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 15 Jul 2009 - 10:13

@MikhailN wrote:
@Kiskaloo wrote:I'll have the Volume 11 tankobon by the end of the month (it releases on July 27th) so hopefully that tells us either way.

Do I hear the word "scans?" cheers

Sorry, but I'm not going to tear mine apart to scan it. NO

However, I expect someone else will scan it and post it.

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Post by MikhailN on Wed 15 Jul 2009 - 10:15

@Kiskaloo wrote:
@MikhailN wrote:
@Kiskaloo wrote:I'll have the Volume 11 tankobon by the end of the month (it releases on July 27th) so hopefully that tells us either way.

Do I hear the word "scans?" cheers

Sorry, but I'm not going to tear mine apart to scan it. NO

However, I expect someone else will scan it and post it.

LOL then I think I heard wrongly. Perhaps the word was "spoilers"

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Post by hydra282 on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 10:13

Does anyone know how old Beatrice was when she became a cyborg?
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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 10:52

@hydra282 wrote:Does anyone know how old Beatrice was when she became a cyborg?

My guess is around 11-12.

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 11:10

Yup, 11+ sounds about right.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 11:17

I would say 9 - 10 at best. 11 would make her Rico's age upon going through the process, and almost 12 now. Though we can argue that the girls dont grow and thus dont apparently age physically, Beatrice looks younger than she actually is.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 11:20

She looks older than Elsa and Henrietta, both of whom I feel were converted around 10.

Angelica is the tough one. In the early manga, she looks 9-10, but in the later manga, she looks around 12. Since she was the prototype, I operate under the assumption she was modified in stages (first fixing her spine to repair the paralysis) over a period of a year or so which explains how her face aged. Then when they converted her, they felt they wanted someone taller to better be able to handle the weapons, so she was given the body of a 12 year old as opposed to her natural 10.

Henrietta and Elsa were kept as 10 because the Agency thought it might make them better infiltrators.

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 13:11

You know, I always deemed Elsa to be older than Etta. I put her at Claes' age.

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Post by Danjo3 on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 13:20

@Nachtsider wrote:You know, I always deemed Elsa to be older than Etta. I put her at Claes' age.
Same here.

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Post by hydra282 on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 13:37

I think Beatrice looks 10-11, but Kisk said that he thinks she's 16 right now, which would mean she's been like that for 5-6 years, which is before SWA even had cyborgs right?
Speaking of age, If Henrietta is 16, why does she still think like a kid?
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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 3 Aug 2009 - 13:45

@Nachtsider wrote:You know, I always deemed Elsa to be older than Etta. I put her at Claes' age.

She just strikes me as being really young in the anime. It's harder to say in the manga since we only see her as a corpse. The one flashback scene of her in the manga when Jean and Jose are in the ruins on Sicily does make her look older, but by then Yu was drawing all the girls looking older, so I disregard it.

Plus those pigtails just strike me as a hairstyle a 10-year old would wear, not a 12-year old. *shrug*

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Post by Kiara on Sat 3 Jul 2010 - 23:56

Beatrice pics in vol 11 (indonesian edition vol 11)
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Post by Triela on Sun 4 Jul 2010 - 12:54

@Kiara wrote:Beatrice pics in vol 11 (indonesian edition vol 11)

Yeah, we have that. It was the inside picture of volume 11, I believe. It's a great picture.

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Post by Kiara on Mon 5 Jul 2010 - 22:51

@Triela wrote:
@Kiara wrote:Beatrice pics in vol 11 (indonesian edition vol 11)

Yeah, we have that. It was the inside picture of volume 11, I believe. It's a great picture.
it was the rear cover picture of vol 11
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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 5 Jul 2010 - 23:05

It was the inside cover for the Japanese Volume 11 tankoban, as well:


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Post by Kiara on Mon 5 Jul 2010 - 23:16

yeah....it was rear cover in indonesian edition vol 11
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