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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by Nachtsider on Wed 10 Jun 2009 - 23:38

MikhailN wrote:I think this should be moved to Petra's thread. You could also help necro that thread.
Mention thread necromancy and I'll ban you. We don't have that stupid 'don't revive old threads' rule here. Razz

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by MikhailN on Wed 10 Jun 2009 - 23:54

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MikhailN wrote:I think this should be moved to Petra's thread. You could also help necro that thread.
Mention thread necromancy and I'll ban you. We don't have that stupid 'don't revive old threads' rule here. Razz

*runs for cover* Okies. Just that I thought that the thread was a bit quiet and since there's a random post about Petra, maybe he could move it there?

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by Danjo3 on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 1:30

MikhailN wrote:I quote

Triela: What did she mean by we should "talk about love?"
Hilshire: We don't have to talk about love. We're fratello
Gunslinger Girl, Chapter 19 page 34, last 2 frames
I don’t have it in front of me, but I believe it was more like:

Hillshire: “What did she mean talk about love?”

Triela: “I think she got the wrong idea about us. We don’t have to talk about love, we’re fratello.”

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Post by West Nile on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 4:59

Danjo3 wrote:
MikhailN wrote:I quote

Triela: What did she mean by we should "talk about love?"
Hilshire: We don't have to talk about love. We're fratello
Gunslinger Girl, Chapter 19 page 34, last 2 frames
I don’t have it in front of me, but I believe it was more like:

Hillshire: “What did she mean talk about love?”

Triela: “I think she got the wrong idea about us. We don’t have to talk about love, we’re fratello.”

i think Danjo has the right idea here, it's also in Triela's song in Pocca Felicita, check the translations

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by MikhailN on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 7:50

West Nile wrote:
Danjo3 wrote:
MikhailN wrote:I quote

Triela: What did she mean by we should "talk about love?"
Hilshire: We don't have to talk about love. We're fratello
Gunslinger Girl, Chapter 19 page 34, last 2 frames
I don’t have it in front of me, but I believe it was more like:

Hillshire: “What did she mean talk about love?”

Triela: “I think she got the wrong idea about us. We don’t have to talk about love, we’re fratello.”

i think Danjo has the right idea here, it's also in Triela's song in Pocca Felicita, check the translations

Oh ya I got it wrong. My bad

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by sasahara17 on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 9:39

Danjo3 wrote:
MikhailN wrote:I quote

Triela: What did she mean by we should "talk about love?"
Hilshire: We don't have to talk about love. We're fratello
Gunslinger Girl, Chapter 19 page 34, last 2 frames
I don’t have it in front of me, but I believe it was more like:

Hillshire: “What did she mean talk about love?”

Triela: “I think she got the wrong idea about us. We don’t have to talk about love, we’re fratello.”
In the light her discovery of Hillshire's past, I wonder if Triela still would answer that way if asked again. Would she say this line with more conviction, or would she hesitate, or would she even outright say something different?

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by Awinnell on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 10:07

lol ! sorry guys my petra post was in the wrong forum !

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by Danjo3 on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 10:39

sasahara17 wrote:In the light her discovery of Hillshire's past, I wonder if Triela still would answer that way if asked again. Would she say this line with more conviction, or would she hesitate, or would she even outright say something different?
In their earlier conversation, Mimi called Triela on having feelings for Hillshire but being too chicken to tell him. She then told her it would be a waste if she didn’t. Unfortunately, Triela did chicken out.

If that situation were to come up now, it would be a whole new ballgame. I honestly believe she would spill her guts.

Hillshire: “Say, what do you think she meant by we should talk about love?”

Triela: “Just what she said. I’m in love with you and we need to talk about it.”

Or maybe she would just kiss him again (she seems to be getting pretty comfortable doing that) and answer his question that way.

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by GP on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 16:46

A more bold Triela is great to see imo. I want moar!

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by MikhailN on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 16:51

GP wrote:A more bold Triela is great to see imo. I want moar!

I second that. We already have a handler taking advantage of his cyborg so how about a cyborg taking some liberties with her handler?

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Post by GP on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 17:00

Yup.

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by sasahara17 on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 17:43

MikhailN wrote:
GP wrote:A more bold Triela is great to see imo. I want moar!

I second that. We already have a handler taking advantage of his cyborg so how about a cyborg taking some liberties with her handler?
Yup, Hillshire is completely whipped. Completely, totally, utterly...

I don't think he would have a problem though.

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by boomer_gonz on Thu 11 Jun 2009 - 19:36

Whipped?
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LOLZ

Triela: Now tell me, WHO IS YOUR TUNISIAN PRINCESS?!

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by Danjo3 on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 2:40

boomer_gonz wrote:Triela: There, Hillshire. You were such a good pet today.
Hilshire: Thank you mistress.
Hillshire: “Can I take this collar off now?”

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Post by sasahara17 on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 5:39

boomer_gonz wrote:Triela: There, Hillshire. You were such a good pet today.
Hilshire: Thank you mistress.
He really is a loyal German Shepard ain't he?

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by MikhailN on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 5:50

sasahara17 wrote:
boomer_gonz wrote:Triela: There, Hillshire. You were such a good pet today.
Hilshire: Thank you mistress.
He really is a loyal German Shepard ain't he?

A well-trained one at that. The ultimate in role reversal - Triela's the handler and Hillshire's the one toting the guns

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by Danjo3 on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 6:07

All kidding aside, it does seem that Hillshire is somewhat at a loss when it comes to the new Triela. I think he’s going to have to walk a fine line between rejecting her and encouraging her, and that’s probably not going to be easy. After she kissed him on the cheek, she may have thought, “Cool, he didn’t seem to mind that. Maybe I should take it up another notch.”

Of course if he had told her not to do that anymore, it would have been like slapping her in the face.

Poor Victor…

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by MikhailN on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 6:13

Danjo3 wrote:All kidding aside, it does seem that Hillshire is somewhat at a loss when it comes to the new Triela. I think he’s going to have to walk a fine line between rejecting her and encouraging her, and that’s probably not going to be easy. After she kissed him on the cheek, she may have thought, “Cool, he didn’t seem to mind that. Maybe I should take it up another notch.”

Of course if he had told her not to do that anymore, it would have been like slapping her in the face.

Poor Victor…

I pity him. He has to draw the line somewhere, and when he does he runs a huge risk. Look what happened to Lauro. Elsa had a pistol. Triela has a shotgun and a knife. Both are equally not good

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by sasahara17 on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 6:19

MikhailN wrote:Elsa had a pistol. Triela has a shotgun and a knife. Both are equally not good
The imagery you have created has blown my mind.

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 6:19

sasahara17 wrote:
MikhailN wrote:Elsa had a pistol. Triela has a shotgun and a knife. Both are equally not good
The imagery you have created has blown my mind.

Is it anything like what happened to Lauro and Elsa?

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 6:36

I like to think that Triela would not be one to perform an act so selfish/drastic.

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Post by Danjo3 on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 6:50

Nachtsider wrote:I like to think that Triela would not be one to perform an act so selfish/drastic.
Agreed. She’s definitely not that kind of person.

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 7:00

Nachtsider wrote:I like to think that Triela would not be one to perform an act so selfish/drastic.

That suggestion was just for teh lulz. She isn't as obsessed or as immature as Elsa, but the reaction by both Hilshire and Triela would still be interesting to watch

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by West Nile on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 8:37

however, i keep as a theory that the thoughts that go through Elsa head could be activated in any of the girls given the oportunity.

i mean the only reason why Henrietta "realized" what Elsa did is when she got the same idea when she thought Joze will turn his back on him, or so i think just whistlin'

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 8:45

West Nile wrote:however, i keep as a theory that the thoughts that go through Elsa head could be activated in any of the girls given the oportunity.

i mean the only reason why Henrietta "realized" what Elsa did is when she got the same idea when she thought Joze will turn his back on him, or so i think just whistlin'

Of course. If Henrietta and Elsa could think like that, we can only hope that Triela doesn't get any funny ideas. That's a particularly nasty way for either of them to go.

By the way, does Hilshire know the real reason how Elsa died or was it limited to Jean, Jose and the higher ups? If he does he must really be shaking in his pants

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Post by West Nile on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 8:47

probably just the croce brothers, my point was the whole "kill hander and myself" could be programmed in each girl

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 8:51

West Nile wrote:probably just the croce brothers, my point was the whole "kill hander and myself" could be programmed in each girl

Someone must have really botched the programming then. Well, it's obviously limited to the 1G cyborgs if not Sandro would really be shaking in his pants

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Post by West Nile on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 8:56

ow we'll see about that Muh-m-muhahahaha!

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 9:06

West Nile wrote:probably just the croce brothers, my point was the whole "kill hander and myself" could be programmed in each girl

The medical staff said Elsa's reaction was "an error", so I do not believe it was programmed into them.

I expect that with the youngest girls (Angie, Elsa and Henrietta), they just don't have the emotional foundation to properly rationalize the love they are compelled to feel for their handlers. In Angelica's case, the "supportive" environment she encountered at Section 2 during it's early days likely helped ground her a bit, but she still had her moments (almost breaking Pricilla's wrist).

Because Giuse treats Henrietta as Enrica's reincarnation, she's besotted/infatuated with him. As long as he keeps showering her with love and attention, everything's fine, but Henrietta exhibits the same "error" Elsa did so if he stopped, she'd likely be capable of doing the same as Elsa.

The manga just stated Lauro generally ignored Elsa outside of missions. The anime ran with that to say he was borderline abusive with her and that she still became besotted/infatuated with him, anyway. But with Lauro not returning any emotion to her, that love became psychotic and she murdered him and then killed herself.


MikhailN wrote:Someone must have really botched the programming then. Well, it's obviously limited to the 1G cyborgs if not Sandro would really be shaking in his pants

Sandro has nothing to worry about, as Petrushka knows he care for her.

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 9:08

West Nile wrote:probably just the croce brothers, my point was the whole "kill hander and myself" could be programmed in each girl
To say that such a program is foolish beyond belief would be an understatement.

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 9:14

Nachtsider wrote:
West Nile wrote:probably just the croce brothers, my point was the whole "kill hander and myself" could be programmed in each girl
To say that such a program is foolish beyond belief would be an understatement.

Oh you never know, considering the strange stuff in the girls' heads like how they instinctively protect their handler. Someone could have thought it was a good idea to put in a self-destruct mechanism and did just that. But like it was mentioned earlier that was an error, if not Henrietta would have hosed Jose with her P90 when she saw that strange name at the bottom of the kaleidoscope.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 9:16

The girls are programmed to protect their handlers at all costs.

This programming was so extreme that Claes and Henrietta almost killed each other's handlers in the firing range when Giuse and Raballo had an argument.

The programming was then softened at that point, so they wouldn't attack a handler. That is why Elsa's actions were considered so shocking. Per her programming, she should not have been able to kill Lauro.

Giuse, of course, is just too soft on Henrietta to make mention she's exhibiting the same error, likely out of fear the medical staff would re-condition her again, shortening her lifespan and possibly changing her present personality.

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Post by Danjo3 on Fri 12 Jun 2009 - 9:50

Nachtsider wrote:
West Nile wrote:probably just the croce brothers, my point was the whole "kill hander and myself" could be programmed in each girl
To say that such a program is foolish beyond belief would be an understatement.
If it were true, it would have been nice if someone had told Lauro about it. Laughing

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Post by West Nile on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 4:36

Danjo3 wrote:
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West Nile wrote:probably just the croce brothers, my point was the whole "kill hander and myself" could be programmed in each girl
To say that such a program is foolish beyond belief would be an understatement.
If it were true, it would have been nice if someone had told Lauro about it. Laughing

i didn't mean it was programmed intentionally, i meant due to the emotional and psychological effects of the entire conditioning process the "i will kill my handler, then kill myself" idea may be implanted in every girls head and can be triggered by the ultimate feeling of abandonment

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 10:26

I still feel it is more a reflection of the younger girl's inability to properly comprehend their feelings. They just lack the emotional experiences to do it.

The medical staff were surprised Elsa could commit such an act and they're confident it will never happen again. Therefore, I think that makes it clear this is not something that was an intentional part of the conditioning process nor something they felt was a likely unintentional part of the conditioning process.

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Post by West Nile on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 22:15

yet when Henrietta figured out what Elsa did, she said

"i think i know how else died"

and

"if it were me, i would kill that person"

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 22:22

Well I believe Elsa and Henrietta are both around the same age - 10 - so they both would not have any real foundation to "ground" the feelings of love they have for their handlers. So they both became infatuated with their handlers.

Because Jose was nice to Henrietta, she hasn't killed him.

Because Lauro was not nice to Elsa, she did kill him.

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Post by West Nile on Sat 13 Jun 2009 - 22:32

well, it's still scary that they both went to the same conclucion when they believed that they were being abandoned by their handlers

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Re: Victor Hilshire

Post by MikhailN on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 19:03

Kiskaloo wrote:Because Lauro was not nice to Elsa, she did kill him.

Speaking of Elsa, I think that little fiasco in the park is an open secret in the Agency. Chapter 42 page 12. Notice the reference to Elsa and the implication that the technicians know what actually happened. Better yet, After Angelica's death, Jean said something interesting in his briefing. He said that Angelica is the first of the 1G cyborgs to die. And earlier Angelica was referred to as being the first cyborg to be killed in action. Shouldn't it be the second?

I really think all the handlers know about this. Now the question is whether Henrietta told the rest of the girls about her little theory

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 19:26

MikhailN wrote:
Kiskaloo wrote:Because Lauro was not nice to Elsa, she did kill him.

Speaking of Elsa, I think that little fiasco in the park is an open secret in the Agency.

The medical staff has to know, since it was the conditioning that (at least in part) drove her to kill Lauro. So they would have been performing an investigation.

I really think all the handlers know about this. Now the question is whether Henrietta told the rest of the girls about her little theory

Jean knows and I am sure Jose does, as well. The others? I can't say.

And I believe Henrietta is keeping her thoughts on the matter to herself.

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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 21:21

I think Triela probably has some kind of inkling. If not, she wouldn't have directed Fermi and Gabrielli to seek out Etta and Giuseppe for answers.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 21:24

Nachtsider wrote:I think Triela probably has some kind of inkling. If not, she wouldn't have directed Fermi and Gabrielli to seek out Etta and Giuseppe for answers.

Fermi and Gabrielli were looking for Jose and Henrietta already. Triela just told them where they could be found.

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 21:28

Kiskaloo wrote:
Nachtsider wrote:I think Triela probably has some kind of inkling. If not, she wouldn't have directed Fermi and Gabrielli to seek out Etta and Giuseppe for answers.

Fermi and Gabrielli were looking for Jose and Henrietta already. Triela just told them where they could be found.

I agree with Nacht. She knew the answer they were looking for lay with Henrietta and Jose. That's why she gave them that under-the-table phone call

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 21:33

MikhailN wrote:
Kiskaloo wrote:
Nachtsider wrote:I think Triela probably has some kind of inkling. If not, she wouldn't have directed Fermi and Gabrielli to seek out Etta and Giuseppe for answers.

Fermi and Gabrielli were looking for Jose and Henrietta already. Triela just told them where they could be found.

I agree with Nacht. She knew the answer they were looking for lay with Henrietta and Jose. That's why she gave them that under-the-table phone call

Except she warned them the line might be tapped, so why would she risk exposing herself (and by extension, Hillshire)?

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Post by MikhailN on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 21:36

Kiskaloo wrote:Except she warned them the line might be tapped, so why would she risk exposing herself (and by extension, Hillshire)?

Well, it's not like she said anything specific. If anyone asked she'd just say that they were asking for the two just whistlin'

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 19 Jun 2009 - 21:47

Perhaps. I remain of the opinion she and Hillshire probably do not know the truth and believe Elsa and Lauro were killed in the line of duty.

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Post by Danjo3 on Sat 20 Jun 2009 - 2:34

MikhailN wrote:
Nachtsider wrote:I think Triela probably has some kind of inkling. If not, she wouldn't have directed Fermi and Gabrielli to seek out Etta and Giuseppe for answers.
I agree with Nacht. She knew the answer they were looking for lay with Henrietta and Jose. That's why she gave them that under-the-table phone call
I never really thought about it like that. You maybe on to something…

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Post by MadHatChemist on Sun 5 Jul 2009 - 21:46

That could be. Angelica remembered she was in an accident and she remembered her parents (even asking for them) after they repaired her paralysis (at that point, I'm not sure she was a cyborg or at least had been fully augmented). It was not until later that the medical staff suppressed those memories and imposed the conditioning regimen on her, "killing" her previous personality and making her the...less-human...person she was as a cyborg, which came to drive a wedge between her and Marco.

Of course, this is when she is dying. Near the end she seems to remember much of what the coniditoning repressed. How the other girls deal with this wouyld be interesting.

Also, Rico seems a special case when it comes to memories, as it would be beneficial for her handlers if she did remember her horrible past life...or at least what is meant to seem like a horrible past life...

I hear ya brother. GSG without Triela is unthinkable. And no Triela also means no Hillshire (unless of course Yu gives him a new girl, who I would hate automatically). I won’t stop reading it, but I definitely won’t have the same level of interest. And I would probably bail all together if the gen2’s took center stage.

Since Hillshire was only saved from being killed due to his connection with Triela, if she were to die he's probably be killed rather quickly. An interesting pint if that were to happen would be his letting Triela know about who killed him and seeing how she responds to that.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sun 5 Jul 2009 - 21:52

Kiskaloo wrote:
MikhailN wrote:
Kiskaloo wrote:
Nachtsider wrote:I think Triela probably has some kind of inkling. If not, she wouldn't have directed Fermi and Gabrielli to seek out Etta and Giuseppe for answers.

Fermi and Gabrielli were looking for Jose and Henrietta already. Triela just told them where they could be found.

I agree with Nacht. She knew the answer they were looking for lay with Henrietta and Jose. That's why she gave them that under-the-table phone call

Except she warned them the line might be tapped, so why would she risk exposing herself (and by extension, Hillshire)?
I'm inclined to believe that Fermi called Triela, and not Triela calling him. In fact his statement of "...I'm doing nothing wrong..." suggests that he did.

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Post by Danjo3 on Mon 6 Jul 2009 - 4:44

ElfenMagix wrote:I'm inclined to believe that Fermi called Triela, and not Triela calling him. In fact his statement of "...I'm doing nothing wrong..." suggests that he did.
I think you’re wrong. Fermi was surprised when Triela told him that Jose and Henrietta were in Sicily. Why would he call her to ask about something he wasn’t even aware of?

And he didn’t say “I’m doing nothing wrong.” he said “We’re doing nothing wrong.”

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 6 Jul 2009 - 9:34

Actually. this is where the manga and the anime differ.
V1 CH4 P142 has it on the last panel:
Triela: I'm warning you, this phone may be bugged.
Fermi: I don't care. I'm not doing anything bad here... Thanks for calling.

in the Anime, it has:
Triela: I'm telling you, this phone may be bugged.
Fermi: I don't care. I'm not doing anything wrong here...

(in the end of the conversation)
Fermi Thanks for the information.


Triela's statement makes it sound that he called her for more information, and she was warning him about the somebody might be listening in on the call. Also the placement is differ for the statements. In the Manga it is at the end, while in the Anime it is in shortly after beginning where added words were placed (ie: Jose's and Henrietta's whereabouts).

If it were not for Fermi saying "Thanks for calling" in the Manga, this would point would still be argueable; this makes it that Triela called him. its the Anime that makes it look more like he called her and not she calling him.

Another difference between the anime and the manga is that in the manga, Triela says that "...we are all on vacation.", in the anime she says "they (Jose and Henrietta) were sent away on vacation."

Why would Triela be calling him? I could would understand that he would as an investigator, trying to reach Jose/Henrietta and not being able to- then calling Triela to ask. But Triela fowarding information like that? Maybe- if Hillshire told her to do so, then I could understand, but not on her own. Unless, maybe, she's making sure that on his next visit he does bring flowers... Laughing

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Post by MikhailN on Mon 6 Jul 2009 - 9:57

ElfenMagix wrote:Why would Triela be calling him? I could would understand that he would as an investigator, trying to reach Jose/Henrietta and not being able to- then calling Triela to ask. But Triela fowarding information like that? Maybe- if Hillshire told her to do so, then I could understand, but not on her own. Unless, maybe, she's making sure that on his next visit he does bring flowers... Laughing
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Post by boomer_gonz on Mon 6 Jul 2009 - 10:14

MikhailN wrote:
ElfenMagix wrote:Why would Triela be calling him? I could would understand that he would as an investigator, trying to reach Jose/Henrietta and not being able to- then calling Triela to ask. But Triela fowarding information like that? Maybe- if Hillshire told her to do so, then I could understand, but not on her own. Unless, maybe, she's making sure that on his next visit he does bring flowers... Laughing
I think that's why they bug the phones. Just so that the girls don't spend all their budget on phone bills. Or worse...

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 6 Jul 2009 - 10:52

boomer_gonz wrote:
MikhailN wrote:
ElfenMagix wrote:Why would Triela be calling him? I could would understand that he would as an investigator, trying to reach Jose/Henrietta and not being able to- then calling Triela to ask. But Triela fowarding information like that? Maybe- if Hillshire told her to do so, then I could understand, but not on her own. Unless, maybe, she's making sure that on his next visit he does bring flowers... Laughing
I think that's why they bug the phones. Just so that the girls don't spend all their budget on phone bills. Or worse...

LOLZ. Informercials!!!!
Or Phone Sex Sites...
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Post by MikhailN on Mon 6 Jul 2009 - 10:56

ElfenMagix wrote:
boomer_gonz wrote:
MikhailN wrote:
ElfenMagix wrote:Why would Triela be calling him? I could would understand that he would as an investigator, trying to reach Jose/Henrietta and not being able to- then calling Triela to ask. But Triela fowarding information like that? Maybe- if Hillshire told her to do so, then I could understand, but not on her own. Unless, maybe, she's making sure that on his next visit he does bring flowers... Laughing
I think that's why they bug the phones. Just so that the girls don't spend all their budget on phone bills. Or worse...

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That the techies would have a lot of fun with. They probably tape it down and listen to it in their free time

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 6 Jul 2009 - 16:36

MikhailN wrote:That the techies would have a lot of fun with. They probably tape it down and listen to it in their free time
Now that is just creepy.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Mon 6 Jul 2009 - 16:42

Nachtsider wrote:
MikhailN wrote:That the techies would have a lot of fun with. They probably tape it down and listen to it in their free time
Now that is just creepy.
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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 14 Jul 2009 - 15:26

Ok, since we’ve started to learn a good bit more about the girls and their handlers in recent chapters and episodes, I thought it might not be a bad time to revise their sections in the wiki. I also took the liberty of trimming them a bit, since in many cases they were more plot summaries than character summaries. Let me know what you think, please.



Born Victor Hartman, he adopted the name Hillshire for his role in Section 2 when he agreed to become Triela’s handler. A former Europol detective from Germany tasked to inter-departmental liaison at Interpol HQ, Hilshire wanted to join the Child Abuse Regulations Section to help solve a child-torture group operating in Holland. However, his boss denied the requests on the grounds that Hilshire was “too soft” to join the team. Later approached by Rachelle Belleut, the two decided to investigate a warehouse where the torture sessions were rumored to take place. The two received information concerning the child smuggling ring from Mario Bossi, a Camorra leader who experienced an attack of conscience. During that investigation, Rachelle was mortally wounded and Triela was discovered and rescued. Hilshire used his connections to bring Triela to the SWA where Jean Croce effectively coerced him into joining Section 2 in order to protect Triela.

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Post by Alfisti on Sun 2 Aug 2009 - 9:36

Quick question on Hilshire: does he smoke? I can't for the life of me remember.
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