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Post by Nachtsider on Sat 12 Jan 2008 - 20:48

This issue we've discussed plenty, Probit. The general consensus here is that the third theory is the correct one, since it would be quite mad to have a civilian employee on duty in an area where covert ops are being discussed.

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Post by Probit Return on Sat 12 Jan 2008 - 20:55

Eh, that's what I figured.

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Re: Name Them All...

Post by Guest on Sun 6 Apr 2008 - 4:16

i wish i could read the manga version... too bad new zealand library doesnt have any... tsk tsk tsk

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 6 Apr 2008 - 4:20

What about the bookstores?

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Post by West Nile on Sun 6 Apr 2008 - 7:23

then download them here

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Post by LoC978 on Sun 6 Apr 2008 - 19:01

-meaning here.

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Re: Name Them All...

Post by ElfenMagix on Sun 6 Apr 2008 - 21:24

The manga does not give her a name.
Nor does it give names to the others in Vol. 9.

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Post by boomer_gonz on Sun 3 Aug 2008 - 15:54

I say that the number Rico gave to the detectives is a falsified number.

My jar of change:

The girls are on a strict order to disclose nothing in regards to information about the Agency.

Should an extenuating circumstance arise, the girls have a secondary protocol to fudge the intel and numbers to a believable standpoint so as not to arise suspicion.

At the time Rico gave her number to the detectives there could've been just a pre-concieved number or the actual number. There could be just our girls at the core or a gaggle more field agents like Elsa.

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Post by Guest on Mon 4 Aug 2008 - 10:28

GsG's A Christmas Carol...
Henrietta - can be the ghost of Christmas Past
Jose - the ghost of Christmas Present
Death - the ghost of Christmas Yet To Come!

Somehow I'd more agree to have Jose as 'Scrooge'


Enrica - Ghost of Christmas Past
Henrietta - Ghost of Christmas Present
Beatrice - Ghost of Christmas Future


Lets start:

Enrica: Jose...why do you ABANDON ME??

Jose: N-no! I-I didn't please forgive me Enrica!!

Henrietta: NO ONE RAPES JOSE BUT ME!! MEEEEEE!!

Jose: Henrietta stop! Please you'll tear me apart...! YOU'RE KILLING ME!! *although I figure I have a side of loli myself...*

Beatrice: Yo mon! Chuck some bong?

Jose: ...I don't smoke...

Beatrice: Chuck some mon! *force feeds* Da fastah you die, the easiah ma job mon!

Koch/Frederick - German. Acts like the main character of a John Woo film; Triela’s boy-toy. - Mostly German WWII guns (StG44, dual MP40s/dual C-96s… etc.)

Sylvia/Edward - Ungrateful little s#!+. he’s lucky Fred didn’t kill him along with his dad. - outfitted like an American WWII infantryman. (M1A1 Thompson/Colt 1911)

(unknown)/Gewehr - Wants to steal Triela. Will probably just end up stealing her panties. - Steyr IWS2000(maybe)/FP-45 Liberator

(unknown)/Anna - Wants to steal Frederick. Will probably just end up stealing Triela’s panties. - dual MP5Ks/Browning high power

(unknown)/Reynard - all doped up and wearin’ panty-hoes - L86 machine gun/Enfield No2Mk1

I can clear/complete the list up to date to today

Well, I'm not pleased with Frederick's first appearance, truth be told. There's just not enough development...I want to fix that someday if God grants me more time Smile

Ok...

Klaus Falman/Anna - Experiencing a little 'Henrietta Syndrome'. - dual MP5Ks/USP .45

Vato Falman/Gewehr - Wants to challenge Rico, but is not even on par with her. - L96A1 Sniper Rifle (or) M82 Barret Anti-Armor .50 cal sniper rifle/ Desert Eagle & Claymore

Sierra/Reynard - all doped up and wearin’ panty-hoes - M16A4/M203/Beretta M92F

...although I haven't plan about creating Reynard and is almost totally forgetting him...

Speaking of which, we have lost a number of good people from the past huh? Somehow I wish they'd return to the board and say: 'Hey! What's going on? WOW! Look at all that! So many new OCs and so many new things! Heh, LOL! This thread is funny!'

...something like that.

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Post by Ggultra2764 on Mon 4 Aug 2008 - 18:44

Panzer IV wrote:
GsG's A Christmas Carol...
Henrietta - can be the ghost of Christmas Past
Jose - the ghost of Christmas Present
Death - the ghost of Christmas Yet To Come!

Somehow I'd more agree to have Jose as 'Scrooge'


Enrica - Ghost of Christmas Past
Henrietta - Ghost of Christmas Present
Beatrice - Ghost of Christmas Future

Really, because I always pictured Jean as Scrooge. As for the Ghosts:

-Enrica- Ghost of Christmas Past (the beloved sister lost to the past)
-Giuseppe- Ghost of Christmas Present (the easygoing younger brother much like the spirit from Dickens' novel)
-Rico- Ghost of Christmas Future (the young cyborg girl with no future)
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Post by Guest on Tue 5 Aug 2008 - 10:06

-Rico- Ghost of Christmas Future (the young cyborg girl with no future)

Hoho, that's so ironic!


Its like:

Rico: I'm the Ghost of Christmas Future! But I have no future....so why am I here again?

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Re: Name Them All...

Post by Nachtsider on Tue 5 Aug 2008 - 12:52

The Ghost of Christmas future is meant to be a silent phantom. I'm still in favor of Bea.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 5 Nov 2008 - 18:09

While Rico says "10 here now", I really think she is including Elsa, even though she is dead at that time. I understand the "now" part can be a conditional statement saying "now that Elsa is dead", but since she gives no real thought to her, I think she doesn't really consider her "gone" at that point.

When the Generation 2 models are brought in, the manga states there will be ten to start, which seems like it would make sense that there were 10 Generation 1 models, as well.

I believe that Beatrice makes her first appearance in the manga on Page 14 of Chapter 14, passing Triela in the hallway. Her haircut certainly matches Beatrice's, as does her blank expression. sweat And then we have the two unidentified girls in Page 9 of Chapter 18 - one sitting with her back to us at a table (she also appears behind Triela on Page 11) and one walking in the door. While the hairstyle from the back looks different, it is black so the girl sitting could be "Liesel" (as seen from the front in another chapter) or it could be someone different. The hair style of the girl entering is also wrong for Beatrice, but it is the same shade, so it could arguably be her. Or we could call her Pia and honor the video game. Smile

So we have all ten Generation 1 Cyborgs:

Angelica
Triela
Beatrice
Rico
Claes
Henrietta
Elsa De Sica
"Liesel"
Unknown Girl in Chapter 18, Page 9
Unknown Girl in Chapter 18, Page 9

As for the Generation 2, we have seen four of the ten:

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Post by ElfenMagix on Wed 5 Nov 2008 - 18:17

Pia is a canon Type 1 as per the Genre in the video game, but not of the anime or manga. That would make her 11.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 5 Nov 2008 - 18:31

I'm not sure there were 11, despite Rico's comment, but I suppose it does make it easiest to say there were since you have the seven girls we see in the manga and the anime, plus the three in the manga, plus Pia in the video game.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Wed 5 Nov 2008 - 18:51

In the Anime, Rico says that 'There are 10 of us.'

Now, is this number counting the (at the time) now dead Elsa?
And does it count Pia, who was supposed to be killed in the video game?

I can see the SWA having a dozen (12) Type 1 Cyborgs at one time...

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Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 5 Nov 2008 - 19:11

@ElfenMagix wrote:In the Anime, Rico says that 'There are 10 of us.'

Now, is this number counting the (at the time) now dead Elsa?
And does it count Pia, who was supposed to be killed in the video game?

I can see the SWA having a dozen (12) Type 1 Cyborgs at one time...

That is the key. 11 works best based on evidence presented in the anime, the manga and the games, if we wish to include them all. And with Pia being "rogue", it is possible when Rico says "10" she's not counting Pia. Wink

And only with the Generation 2 models do we know they were "budgeted" for 10 - and no mention has been made of either going beyond that or that they have even "made quota" since we have only seen four to date.
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Post by ElfenMagix on Wed 5 Nov 2008 - 19:31

If they are Type 2.
Some of us dare say that they could be either/or, just like I argue that one being Pia herself (wishful thinking on my part).

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Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 5 Nov 2008 - 19:42

@ElfenMagix wrote:If they are Type 2.

I believe they have to be.

The one with freckles and long hair says "Did you know? A girl from the first generation died." The girl with the short dark hair asks "Which one?" Petrushka guesses Angelica. And the blonde asks what they will do for their graves.

If any of them had been Generation 1's, I have to believe Yu would have had them comment on it since their own mortality would be at stake. Also, their demeanor concludes me to believe that none are Generation 1's, which by default makes them Generation 2's. Also, of the three "unidentified" Generation 1 girls, it is clear none are "Liesel" and of the other two, neither has hair styles or colors that match any of the three girls in the room with Petra.
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Post by Danjo3 on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 3:03

I think it’s pretty safe to assume that all of the bitchy-teenagers are gen2’s.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Thu 6 Nov 2008 - 16:26

The kind that wants you to put a boot up their asses as a form of conditioing...

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Post by Danjo3 on Fri 7 Nov 2008 - 2:48

@ElfenMagix wrote:The kind that wants you to put a boot up their asses as a form of conditioing...
And make their handlers wonder – What the hell did I do to deserve this?

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Post by Guest on Sat 29 Nov 2008 - 23:48

@Danjo3 wrote:
@ElfenMagix wrote:The kind that wants you to put a boot up their asses as a form of conditioing...
And make their handlers wonder – What the hell did I do to deserve this?

I seriously don't believe that's Alessandro's case sweat

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Post by Danjo3 on Sun 30 Nov 2008 - 3:54

Alados wrote:
@Danjo3 wrote:
@ElfenMagix wrote:The kind that wants you to put a boot up their asses as a form of conditioing...
And make their handlers wonder – What the hell did I do to deserve this?
I seriously don't believe that's Alessandro's case sweat
Agreed. I think Sandro’s feeling can be best summed up by a quote from Glen Quagmire (Family Guy):

“Dear diary: Jackpot!”

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Post by Kiskaloo on Sun 30 Nov 2008 - 12:45

Yeah the scanlators forgot a word bubble when Sandro pulls back the sheet when he sees Petra for the first time:

"Oh...yeah..."

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