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Post by emperor on Sat 15 Sep 2007 - 3:40

Did you know?

If no,I'll tell you..................:!:

Weakest point like Petra as 2nd type at the top of the thigh and her shoulder.:afro:

Any comment? :cyclops:

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Post by LoC978 on Sat 15 Sep 2007 - 10:03

again, where does this information come from?

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Post by Guest on Sat 15 Sep 2007 - 11:01

Why didn't they just leave it at their eye? Yes, they get hit in the eye alot, but I woudl think it's easier to get hit in the shoulder... And is it lethal to get hit in the shoulder?

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Post by emperor on Sat 15 Sep 2007 - 14:09

@LoC978 wrote:again, where does this information come from?

From vol.6 : Petra rebirth ,the technician doctor said by himself about this wealness.


And is it lethal to get hit in the shoulder?
Don't underestimate the damage of shoulder broken or somthing because if you'd been like that so how you handed your gun or even walk straight?:cat:

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Post by LoC978 on Sat 15 Sep 2007 - 14:42

@emperor wrote:From vol.6 : Petra rebirth ,the technician doctor said by himself about this wealness.
ah, I see now. page 129. Looks to me like they're talking about limits to her physical strength. On the same page, Gilliani mentions that they "tried not to touch the upper torso", meaning that Petra is pretty much unarmored. So I guess that her real weak spot would be her little artificial heart.
-And is it lethal to get hit in the shoulder?
generally not, though there is an artery close to the armpit that could make it lethal.
Don't underestimate the damage of shoulder broken or somthing because if you'd been like that so how you handed your gun or even walk straight?:cat:
very true, for most people. for cyborgs, though... just replace some parts and they're (physically, at least) as good as new.
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Post by emperor on Sat 15 Sep 2007 - 15:02

So I guess that her real weak spot would be her little artificial heart.

More explain,please? :sunny:

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Post by LoC978 on Sat 15 Sep 2007 - 15:20

http://illiweb.com/fa/pbucket.gif

-that page pretty much lays it out there: Petra has artificial muscles, organs, and a partially artificial skeleton (which has a weakness in the shoulder and hip joints, so if Petra puts too much pressure on something using her arms or legs, she could possibly break her hip or shoulder)... but she's put together like any normal human being, meaning if anything slips through her ribcage and into her heart... she's a goner (unless her artificial heart has some sort of integrated self-repair function)
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Post by emperor on Sat 15 Sep 2007 - 16:10

I see. Very clear,thanks!! :star:

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Post by Tommygunner70 on Sun 16 Sep 2007 - 11:57

a direct hit to the right above the shoulder can kill you.

but i would have to say you would have to get closer toward the neck right on the collar bone. if you press into the collar bone heading toward the neck you can break the collar bone pertty easy.

plus next to the collar bone runs one of the main nerve's of your body.

the left side of your brain controls the right side of the body. the main nerve makes a turn to the right at the back of the neck. (thats why in movies where they stab a needle in the back of ones neck right in the middle they become fully parelized, which does work in real live but then with more worse affects.)

so breaking the collar bone in that fashion the bone its self will damage or even cut thru the nerve. and with out those nerve's you can die if a certain side of the nerve is damaged.

see it as your run of the mill cable. not a solid one but one that is made up by 20 smaller ones that make the main cable together, run a seperate signal thru each of them and then you have how the nerve works like... it depends on the body at that time, but damage a certain part of the nerve and it might just stop the bodies control of the heart or the lungs...

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Post by ElfenMagix on Fri 21 Sep 2007 - 12:56

Anatomy! Anatomy!!
http://www.innerbody.com/htm/body.html

Right at the shoulders and hips , you have a set of major arteries and viens. Hitting them will kill anyone.
http://www.innerbody.com/image/cardov.html

Cyborg or not, I like to know how the enhancements were created. I can understand parts replacements and body enhancements, but at times it sounds like the girls had their brains and spinal cords removed and put into a T-100 Terminator frame.

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Post by emperor on Sun 23 Sep 2007 - 22:21

Anatomy! Anatomy!!
[url=http://www.innerbody.com/htm/body.html
http://www.innerbody.com/htm/body.html[/quote[/url]]

Know what,I chose Muscular! Smile

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 16 Mar 2008 - 0:44

I still don't understand why the SWA would take a step backward with armoring the second-gens.

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Post by Sintendo on Sun 16 Mar 2008 - 1:28

@Nachtsider wrote:I still don't understand why the SWA would take a step backward with armoring the second-gens.

I think of the second gens as being cheaper mass productions rather than the "custom" first gen girls.

...But then... with the second gens, you can customize them however you want... hmmm...

Well, I guess the frist gens were just prototypes. Like, it would take lots of man hours just to build one girl, but then over time everyone got used to the process or faster building methods were realized, but sacrifices had to be made, which resulted in the second gens.

Think Tank vs. Car.

The Tank costs an arm and a leg, while the Car costs a few fingers dancin\\'

You can abuse the Tank much more than the Car.

Tank take longer to build than Cars.

Etcetera...
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Post by West Nile on Sun 16 Mar 2008 - 7:28

versatility over power

money over everything else

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Post by LoC978 on Sun 16 Mar 2008 - 10:40

sex over innocence...

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Post by Nachtsider on Sun 16 Mar 2008 - 10:56

It sounds like a bum draw no matter how you put it.

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Post by restonme on Fri 30 Aug 2013 - 23:24

@Tommygunner70 wrote:a direct hit to the right above the shoulder can kill you.

but i would have to say you would have to get closer toward the neck right on the collar bone. if you press into the collar bone heading toward the neck you can break the collar bone pertty easy.

plus next to the collar bone runs one of the main nerve's of your body.

the left side of your brain controls the right side of the body. the main nerve makes a turn to the right at the back of the neck. (thats why in movies where they stab a needle in the back of ones neck right in the middle they become fully parelized, which does work in real live but then with more worse affects.)

so breaking the collar bone in that fashion the bone its self will damage or even cut thru the nerve. and with out those nerve's you can die if a certain side of the nerve is damaged.

see it as your run of the mill cable. not a solid one but one that is made up by 20 smaller ones that make the main cable together, run a seperate signal thru each of them and then you have how the nerve works like... it depends on the body at that time, but damage a certain part of the nerve and it might just stop the bodies control of the heart or the lungs...

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damn i hate bioligy, but its handy when you really want to do some damage with out it being fatal Very Happy
actually the heart controlled by signals from the brain. the muscles in the heart sort of have a "twitch" reflex that causes them to pump without signals being sent from the brain.

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Post by ElfenMagix on Sat 31 Aug 2013 - 0:22

Its more complicated than that,restonme. The right Atrionode starts the signal for the heart to pump which goes through a series of cardio nerves to the rest of the heart. Hormones and nerve impulses from the brain controls the heart, and if hit like Tommgunner says, slicing through the middle or lower thoracic sections of the spinal cord, a "Heart Stop" signal is created because it thinks the brain is dead and the heart stops immediately.

Its all tricky biology we are dealing with here. Sometimes this happens, sometimes it does not. And it all depends on your emergency room surgeon and how he is going to save you.

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Post by Odon on Sat 31 Aug 2013 - 9:30

Unless it's all a metaphor. Petra's heart is her weak spot, which is why she falls for her handler even without the ingrained conditioning of the first gens. Those mad scientists of the Agency could have constructed the entire second gen line as a series of artistic commentaries on modern life.

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Post by John_234 on Tue 3 Sep 2013 - 13:48

Technically speaking if torso shots don't put an assailant down, it's common practice to then go for the skull or the pelvic girdle. So the thigh statement is... kinda sorta there? The pelvic girdle is easily broken and carries a lot of weight.

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