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Post by Alfisti on Fri 25 May 2012 - 4:47

@Awinnell wrote:
@Alfisti wrote:Man, I was so excited for about ten seconds.



Sadly it's only a translation of the Honor books, not a manga.

Also, one of these days all the cover artists are going to sit down with David Weber, pull out the RMN manual of dress and actually learn what the damn uniform looks like.

Speaking of which, after a bit of a hiatus, I've picked up the series again from "Storm from the Shadows"... it's not doing much for my sleep quotient.

I cannot understand why these books have not yet been turned into a Movie/TV series yet !
I actually think I do. Aside from being quite a heavy/political series, the space combat would be quite difficult to do in a visual medium. Since it (almost) all happens beyond visual range, all you'd see would be a spaceship, hanging seemingly motionless in space with its wedge red-shifting the stars above and below it, with the occasional little flash as a bunch of laser-heads went off twenty kilo-clicks away. It's not impossible to make work, Starship Operators did a respectable job of it, but even they were engaging at vastly shorter ranges than the Honor ships do... especially since the advent of MDMs and Apollo.

It's also, lest face it: pretty nerdy combat. I'm positive David Weber spends most of his time crouched over a calculator rather than over a word processor keyboard Razz

I love the series as much as the next space-geek, it has it's flaws, but the rest is so good I don't care... however I'm not sure how well it would translate to a visual medium, particularly where Mr. Weber can't let out the long, explanatory monologues Razz

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Post by Kiskaloo on Fri 25 May 2012 - 10:14

Kind of reminds me of the combat in the comic Albedo and the Banner/Crest of the Stars anime. The ranges were so long (using drones) that combat was all pre-calculated by computers based on probabilities of where the capital ships would be when they popped out of warp. So the actual combat scenes in both were rare and far between because there was not much to see. Smile

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Post by Alfisti on Fri 25 May 2012 - 10:37

@Kiskaloo wrote:Kind of reminds me of the combat in the comic Albedo and the Banner/Crest of the Stars anime. The ranges were so long (using drones) that combat was all pre-calculated by computers based on probabilities of where the capital ships would be when they popped out of warp. So the actual combat scenes in both were rare and far between because there was not much to see. Smile
Don't know Albedo, but from memory Banner/Crest when in warp the ships generated a sort of "normal space" field around themselves. Missiles didn't carry the generators to create those fields so were destroyed when they reached their limits and I think sensors were more limited outside as well?

The Honor ships can engage each other in hyper, though it puts limitations on them, particularly if they happen to be travelling under Warhawski sail in a grav-wave. In normal space however, by the Second Havenite War, the limiting factor on missile range has pretty much become the light-speed communications lag across the control uplinks between the missiles and the ship which fired them. Anti-ship missiles do have limited onboard guidance, but work much better when able to be co-ordinated and stream targeting data from their mothership's much more powerful sensors and EW suite. So while they can theoretically shoot something 65 million clicks out, you'd be doing well to actually hit anything. Well...

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...untill Apollo came along at least.

I'll be quiet now before I geek everywhere.

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Post by Officer_Charon on Sat 26 May 2012 - 17:49

@Alfisti wrote:
@Awinnell wrote:
@Alfisti wrote:Man, I was so excited for about ten seconds.



Sadly it's only a translation of the Honor books, not a manga.

Also, one of these days all the cover artists are going to sit down with David Weber, pull out the RMN manual of dress and actually learn what the damn uniform looks like.

Speaking of which, after a bit of a hiatus, I've picked up the series again from "Storm from the Shadows"... it's not doing much for my sleep quotient.

I cannot understand why these books have not yet been turned into a Movie/TV series yet !
I actually think I do. Aside from being quite a heavy/political series, the space combat would be quite difficult to do in a visual medium. Since it (almost) all happens beyond visual range, all you'd see would be a spaceship, hanging seemingly motionless in space with its wedge red-shifting the stars above and below it, with the occasional little flash as a bunch of laser-heads went off twenty kilo-clicks away.

Ahem.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1977815/



Also, Alfisti, did you get a chance to look into that group that I pointed you towards, on that score?

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Post by Awinnell on Sat 26 May 2012 - 18:20

Not yet but soon,lol ,making the Cat realistic will be a challenge,as far as the battles go, most naval battles are over the horizon stuff and we've seen loads of those movies !

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Post by Officer_Charon on Sat 26 May 2012 - 18:28

Nimitz will be CGI'd, possibly with the occasional puppetry going on, although I don't see him being too much of an issue. It looks as though Mr. Weber's going to be consulting with the crew on this A LOT, which is why he green-lit it - they are promising to treat the property with respect, and consult HEAVILY with him. Weber's big concern for a long time has been finding an appropriate actress to play Honor - how many 6'2" Eurasian actresses can you name? *grins*

As for the battles, they're obviously going to have to alter the perspective to make them watchable for the audience - although at least we're not going to have to sit through a maths lesson to get to the nitty-gritty!

I wonder how well it will continue on, though... Basilisk Station was the most tactical of the books (from a single ship perspective, I mean) - with Honor's increasing rank, and subsequent greater focus on strategy in lieu of tactics, the pace slows down more and more... great for story-telling, not so great for reaching the larger audience.

I just hope their return on investment is enough to keep the project going.

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Post by Awinnell on Sat 26 May 2012 - 18:40

@Officer_Charon wrote:Nimitz will be CGI'd, possibly with the occasional puppetry going on, although I don't see him being too much of an issue. It looks as though Mr. Weber's going to be consulting with the crew on this A LOT, which is why he green-lit it - they are promising to treat the property with respect, and consult HEAVILY with him. Weber's big concern for a long time has been finding an appropriate actress to play Honor - how many 6'2" Eurasian actresses can you name? *grins*

As for the battles, they're obviously going to have to alter the perspective to make them watchable for the audience - although at least we're not going to have to sit through a maths lesson to get to the nitty-gritty!

I wonder how well it will continue on, though... Basilisk Station was the most tactical of the books (from a single ship perspective, I mean) - with Honor's increasing rank, and subsequent greater focus on strategy in lieu of tactics, the pace slows down more and more... great for story-telling, not so great for reaching the larger audience.

I just hope their return on investment is enough to keep the project going.

If it doesn't, it may end up being another SyFy low budget series,what am i saying ! SyFy doesn't do scifi these days !

also looking forward to the Enders game movie coming out next year

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Post by Alfisti on Sat 26 May 2012 - 22:09

@Officer_Charon wrote:Ahem.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1977815/



Also, Alfisti, did you get a chance to look into that group that I pointed you towards, on that score?
Excellent...

Did take a squiz at the group, finding a chapter local to me look like it may be difficult though.


Basalisk Station was probably the closest thing to the series' "Hornblower... IN SPACE" tag and yes, probably the most marketable. The other option would possibly be to go with the Saganami Island books, but there's a lot of history needed to get up to speed with those.

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Post by Officer_Charon on Sat 26 May 2012 - 22:19

There's no chapter near me, either, but I asked around on the Facebook group, and got accepted onto a crew out of North Carolina... so it's not outside the realm of possibility that you could get on with a group not necessarily "close" to you.

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Post by Alfisti on Fri 3 Aug 2012 - 3:48

Oyster Bay... Pearl Harbour... well played Mr. Weber, now I feel slow.

On that note though, I have to say that the last chapter or so Mission of Honor takes a prize for delivering a Crowning Moment of Heartwarming, Badass and Awesome all in one go.

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Post by Officer_Charon on Fri 3 Aug 2012 - 18:39

... Still am not that current... am re-reading the entire series now, so I should be caught up in time for me to purchase "A Rising Thunder" when I get some spare dosh

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Re: Bookstore

Post by Kurosaka "Ery" Erika on Fri 3 Aug 2012 - 19:06

well now that i remember it.... i've already read:
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Post by Nachtsider on Fri 3 Aug 2012 - 20:32

KuroNeko wrote:well now that i remember it.... i've already read:
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-US Fast Battleships 1938-91: The Iowa Class
Holy shit, you read Osprey Military books, too? Gimme five - I have a whole library of them. High Five

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Post by Officer_Charon on Fri 3 Aug 2012 - 21:35

I read 'em too.... I just don't OWN any. *laughs* The manager/owner of my FLGS is a good guy who doesn't mind me taking up space looking 'em over.

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Post by Kurosaka "Ery" Erika on Fri 3 Aug 2012 - 21:37

@Nachtsider wrote:
KuroNeko wrote:well now that i remember it.... i've already read:
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Holy shit, you read Osprey Military books, too? Gimme five - I have a whole library of them.

yes...colorful illustration of battleship iowa(i'm planning to make FF based on this ship...)
i just love battleship iowa and her sister...
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Post by Kurosaka "Ery" Erika on Fri 3 Aug 2012 - 21:58

also, i've been reading this lately
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Post by Alfisti on Sat 4 Aug 2012 - 0:29

@Officer_Charon wrote:... Still am not that current... am re-reading the entire series now, so I should be caught up in time for me to purchase "A Rising Thunder" when I get some spare dosh
"Rising Thunder" is the next one I need to track down... only when I'll have enough time to read it all in one hit though.

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Post by Officer_Charon on Sat 4 Aug 2012 - 0:55

That's the problem with long-running series, isn't it? The longer they go, the more time you have to spend on a book, but if you don't conquer it in one fell swoop, you can get lost in the "who's doing what, now?"

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Post by Alfisti on Sat 4 Aug 2012 - 1:03

Tell me about it... though in this case it's more an instance of knowing that once I start, stopping before the end is going to be very difficult.

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Post by Officer_Charon on Sat 4 Aug 2012 - 2:07

Again, I gotcha!

You, at least, don't have to lavish attention on a wife and daughter. Don't get me wrong, I love 'em to death, but they do a serious number on my reading schedule.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Wed 29 Aug 2012 - 19:26

When I saw the cover artwork for this book, I immediately thought of Marisa:



America has enemies--ruthless people that the police, the FBI, even the military can't stop. That's when the U.S. government calls on Will Robie, a stone cold hitman who never questions orders and always nails his target.
But Will Robie may have just made the first--and last--mistake of his career . . .


The book itself is quite good. Not formulaic at all, which kept it interesting.


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Post by Il Direttore on Wed 29 Aug 2012 - 19:46

@Kiskaloo wrote:When I saw the cover artwork for this book, I immediately thought of Marisa:



The book itself is quite good. Not formulaic at all, which kept it interesting.

My instinctual response was "GSG Novelzation?!!"

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Post by MP5 on Thu 30 Aug 2012 - 0:57

Re-read this book today, realized I have a lot to learn:



Wouldn't be surprised if this somehow made it into required reading for the cyborgs...

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Post by Alfisti on Thu 30 Aug 2012 - 7:49

Just for a change of pace, currently reading The Piano Shop on the Left Bank... Nice, slow, quiet slice of life book, frankly it's making me want to move to Paris.


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Post by Three Dog on Fri 31 Aug 2012 - 2:12

I had to read Candelo by Georgia Blain for English this year...



It made me want to gouge my eyes out! The way it jumps back and forth and nothing really gets reslved... ARGH! Just thinking about it angers me.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 4 Sep 2012 - 19:48



It's the original Star Trek television series crossed with the film Stranger Than Fiction.

It's also brilliant.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Thu 3 Jan 2013 - 18:50

Just finished J.K. Rowling's latest - The Casual Vacancy...



When Barry Fairbrother dies unexpectedly in his early forties, the little town of Pagford is left in shock. Pagford is, seemingly, an English idyll, with a cobbled market square and an ancient abbey, but what lies behind the pretty façade is a town at war. Rich at war with poor, teenagers at war with their parents, wives at war with their husbands, teachers at war with their pupils…. Pagford is not what it first seems. And the empty seat left by Barry on the town’s council soon becomes the catalyst for the biggest war the town has yet seen.


Harry Potter it sure as hell ain't...


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Post by Three Dog on Thu 3 Jan 2013 - 19:02

I finished reading Ender's Game by Orson Scott Card.



It didn't end how I expected it to. I might see about getting a hold of the rest of the Enderverse series.

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Post by Thescarredman on Fri 4 Jan 2013 - 0:15

Presently lying open and facedown on my bathroom floors:

Mila 18, Leon Uris

Winds of War, Herman Wouk

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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 21 Jan 2013 - 22:26

Just finished the debut novel by Erin Morgenstern.



The circus arrives without warning. No announcements precede it. It is simply there, when yesterday it was not. Within the black-and-white striped canvas tents is an utterly unique experience full of breathtaking amazements. It is called Le Cirque des Rêves, and it is only open at night.

But behind the scenes, a fierce competition is underway: a duel between two young magicians, Celia and Marco, who have been trained since childhood expressly for this purpose by their mercurial instructors. Unbeknownst to them both, this is a game in which only one can be left standing. Despite the high stakes, Celia and Marco soon tumble headfirst into love, setting off a domino effect of dangerous consequences, and leaving the lives of everyone, from the performers to the patrons, hanging in the balance.

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Post by Three Dog on Mon 21 Jan 2013 - 23:02

The last Wheel of Time came out on Jan 8th and my bro is nearly finished the copy he bought (I assume so anyway, he's been at home for a couple of days and he nromally won't even eat or sleep with a good book). So with luck I can get my hands on it soon.



Unfortunately, I'm still on book ten, (about two thirds to three quarters through), but I'm getting there. On another note, I think this series has been one of my biggest influences in my writng. Moreso than Eddings, Nylund, and Clancy.

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Post by Alfisti on Tue 26 Feb 2013 - 6:03

Finished A Rising Thunder, seeing as it's now out in paperback and I refuse to read sci-fi in hard-cover (because that's just wrong).


Yes, Baen still can't do a decent book cover, yes they're still getting the uniform wrong, and yes that still looks nothing like a Manticoran pinnace... however the book itself was a pretty damn good read: sometimes it's nice just to switch back to Space Opera for a bit.

While I think the last book in the series probably still manages the prize for wrapping the most "Moments of..." into one sequence, this is the book where the major Astro-political shift which has been building for the last few books comes to a head... and I'm liking it.

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Post by Kurosaka "Ery" Erika on Tue 26 Feb 2013 - 6:44

just finished reading this-



now...what should i read next.....
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Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 11 Mar 2013 - 15:54



Myfanwy Thomas awakes in a London park surrounded by dead bodies. With her memory gone, her only hope of survival is to trust the instructions left in her pocket by her former self. She quickly learns that she is a Rook, a high-level operative in a secret agency that protects the world from supernatural threats. But there is a mole inside the organization and this person wants her dead.

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Post by Nachtsider on Mon 11 Mar 2013 - 18:31

Kuroneko wrote:just finished reading this-



now...what should i read next.....
Holy shit, Kuro - you read Osprey books, too? I have a whole collection of them. cheers

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Post by Three Dog on Fri 2 Aug 2013 - 1:35

It has taken a little under three years, but I have done it. 14 volumes, 11,582 pages, 658 chapters, and 3,933,980 words later, I have finished Robert Jordan's 'The Wheel of Time', and God damn is it a good story! A little slow around the eighth volume, and the editor (spell checker) got a bit slack in the twelfth book. I had worries about the last book, as there was quite some build up, but it did not disappoint and all lose ends were tied (I think). I recommend it to anyone who enjoys the fantasy genre.

Now, time to read those seven other books I'd found and bought while reading The Wheel of Time... study

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Post by Officer_Charon on Fri 2 Aug 2013 - 1:59

......... Oh, damn your eyes, sir. I need to find my first book.

Alternately, time to invest in the Kindle editions

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Post by Awinnell on Fri 2 Aug 2013 - 11:58

@Three Dog wrote:It has taken a little under three years, but I have done it. 14 volumes, 11,582 pages, 658 chapters, and 3,933,980 words later, I have finished Robert Jordan's 'The Wheel of Time', and God damn is it a good story! A little slow around the eighth volume, and the editor (spell checker) got a bit slack in the twelfth book. I had worries about the last book, as there was quite some build up, but it did not disappoint and all lose ends were tied (I think). I recommend it to anyone who enjoys the fantasy genre.

Now, time to read those seven other books I'd found and bought while reading The Wheel of Time... study

 (My signature is from the Wheel of Time by the way)

 of course Robert Jordan didn't write the last one !

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Post by Three Dog on Fri 2 Aug 2013 - 19:24

@Awinnell wrote:of course Robert Jordan didn't write the last one !

He did actually write the epilogue for the last one. I think it's the second to last, Towers of Midnight, that was completely written by the other guy, but Jordan's author's notes were pretty comprehensive so unless you pay a lot of attention to the writing style, it's not really a noticeable change.

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Post by Three Dog on Wed 7 Aug 2013 - 8:10

I finally got around to reading Jam by Ben 'Yahtzee' Croshaw, the basic premise of which is an apocalypse... of jam. Man eating jam. Not zombies, or tornadoes, or dinosaurs, or aliens... jam. I didn't expect a lot from it aside from the satire, but the story also turned out to be quite good (or at least I thought so), so check it out if you get the time.

I am also making a Jampocalypse plan to go with my zombie plan now.

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Post by Kiskaloo on Tue 3 Dec 2013 - 22:39



The Reason I Jump: The Inner Voice of a Thirteen-Year-Old Boy with Autism

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Re: Bookstore

Post by Kiskaloo on Mon 6 Jan 2014 - 17:02




This is my first Neil Gaiman novel, my only previous experience with his writing being via his movie or television scripts. 

Have to say, I loved every page.

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Re: Bookstore

Post by PolosElite23 on Mon 2 Feb 2015 - 12:56

Books....man I love books...where to start...

I'ma just make a big list, 'kay?

Inheritance Series (Plz let there be people out there who like it too)
Ranger's Apprentice Series
Leviathan Wakes and its sequels (need to find the other books)
Lord of The Rings
Catch-22
The Lost Fleet
Boy at War series

and more I will post later...

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Post by PolosElite23 on Wed 6 May 2015 - 11:08

My friends, I need a bit of help. 

I need a book for my Novels class to read, but I am struggling with ideas. I was wondering if you guys had any good suggestions.

Now I have to finish said book by Friday jext week. I read fast, do we'll say 500-600 page limit. Depending on the book I may go more.

I like scifi and fantasy. Moralistic books, works about human conditions...romance...etc etc.

I read a lot of books. I want my last book I read for class to be a great one, so I turn to you my friends! (Because sadly my teacher said no to GSG....)

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Re: Bookstore

Post by Thescarredman on Wed 6 May 2015 - 14:26

"Citizen of the Galaxy," by RAH. An oldie but a goodie, about the relationship between freedom (and power) and responsibility.
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